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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Angela (talk | contribs) at 23:05, 6 September 2003 (reinsert from edit conflict). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Do pages listed here still have to follow the 7 day rule or can they be deleted immediately? Personally, I think that if a user wants their own pages deleted then there should be no issue with that. Angela 22:49, 6 Sep 2003 (UTC)

From Cyan's talk page

It's an honest mistake, but users (or admins for that matter) have no right to unilaterally request and receive the deletion of the history of -any- page. The proper procedure is to go through VfD. I've restored BuddhaInside's two pages. - Hephaestos 22:38, 6 Sep 2003 (UTC)

And you, Hephaestos, failed to follow policy by going through Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion prior to acting unilaterally. -BuddhaInside
Shouldn't they go on Wikipedia:Personal subpages to be deleted, not VfD. I assumed that it was ok to delete these immediately, although the policy doesn't seem clear on this. Angela 22:47, 6 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Indeed. -BuddhaInside
It's my understanding that any page in any namespace needs consensus before deleting it with history. The technical procedures have changed so much lately that I'm not sure what's the right page in some cases. - Hephaestos 22:50, 6 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Not to mention in this particular case, where the user is obviously very familiar with the system, and has quite possibly simply created a separate account to cause trouble. Such trolling activity should have a record. - Hephaestos 22:51, 6 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Accounts for trolling have their user contributions as a permanent record. And if, for example, JoeM erases comments I want to preserve from on his talk page, I can always save them on my talk page. In this case, neither of the two people directly involved wanted to keep the page history, so I felt it was reasonable to remove that record, and preserve the content here. -- Cyan 23:03, 6 Sep 2003 (UTC)


"Consensus" has always been that each user had final control over their user pages. As for trolling, you haven't refuted the logic above. -BuddhaInside
For the record, I was treating these pages as if they had been listed on Wikipedia:Personal subpages to be deleted. It was my understanding that, within reasonable limts, a user had the privilege of deciding the content of their own user page and talk page, the primary limitation being that the content was to be related to working on Wikipedia. -- Cyan 22:57, 6 Sep 2003 (UTC)
That could well be, so I might be wrong. At any rate the policy will make itself clear sooner or later, and I think until that point it's better to have the pages available than not. I know I for one am not going to delete a user's talk page at his/her request every time someone simply posts a question in it. - Hephaestos 23:00, 6 Sep 2003 (UTC)
None of the policies make it clear. If there are no objections, I am going to write on the policy page that this should count as one of the things allowable for immediate deletion. Sysop's user pages are deleted all the time without listing on VfD. I just deleted my own sandbox twice. I have also deleted my user page in the past, as has 172. If sysops can do this it is unfair that normal users can't. Angela 23:04, 6 Sep 2003 (UTC)
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