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Violations
Reported by: Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 05:56, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)
Comments: Anonymous user with dynamic IP address in 67.121.* block continues to revert to discredited rambling about Nehru-Stalinism in Nehru article. (Also has made numerous personal attacks and ethnic slurs on the talk page, FWIW). Unfortunately, it's not just one IP address, and user has stated on talk page that s/he intends to just redial modem to obtain different IP address, if blocked.
- There doesn't seem to have been a previous violation, and he wasn't warned, so I've put a warning on his talk page, and I see someone else has protected the page. I'll put it on my watchlist in case it starts up again. SlimVirgin (talk) 06:17, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
- This anonymous user has been at this for a long time, using a small set of IP addresses, logging in from Cisco Systems, San Jose, during working hours:
- and during other hours from Pac Bell Internet Services, San Ramon, CA (presumably at home):
- I've been watching that page for a while, and I'd reccomend letting them argue it out. It was protected for 10 days for the same revert war and now the discussion has flared up again since I unprotected it ~2 days ago. OTOH, I need to go to bed soon so if you could keep an eye on it that'd be great. -Lommer | talk 06:46, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- No disrespect, but no matter how loathsome his behavior has been so far, tattling to his employers to get him into trouble strikes me as dangerously close to violating the "No legal threats" rule. I mentioned the employer only to show the geographic and time clustering of the IPs he's using (San Jose and San Ramon/working and non-working posting times). Yes, he is (IMHO) a raving frootbat, but Wikipedia has already mechanisms in place to deal with such people when they get peristent.
- P.S.: It appears that this guy went by the moniker User:LibertarianAnarchist a couple of years ago, so his act isn't new by any means. --Calton | Talk 06:17, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that Wikipedia:No legal threats applied to disputes between editors, not (as in this case) an attempt to enforce community rules. And Wikipedia's mechanisms in place have been shown to be pretty marginal when you're dealing with someone who edits as an anon, and has lots of IP addresses to draw on (see the Zivinbudas case). I also have little sympathy for disruptive editors. Noel (talk) 17:29, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Well, speak of the devil. Looks like Cisco's Own Hindu Nationalist, stymied from inserting his wacky "Nehru-Stalinism" bilge, has resorted to a sockpuppet (User:Legal Notice) issuing legal threats. [6].
- Maybe calling his bosses would be a good idea, now. --Calton | Talk 01:17, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
User:67.121.92.246 / User:Economist123 / etc.
Three revert rule violation on Jawaharlal Nehru. User:67.121.92.246 (now User:Economist123):
- 1st revert: [7]
- 2nd revert: [8]
- 3rd revert: [9]
- 4th revert: [10]
- 5th revert: [11]
- 6th revert: [12]
- 7th revert: [13]
- 8th revert: [14]
- 9th revert: [15]
Reported by: Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 03:47, 2005 Jun 10 (UTC)
Comments: The user who posts from a dynamic IP address in the 67.121.* block continues to revert the Nehru article to include a uniformly rejected rambling about Nehru-Stalinism. The page has been locked repeatedly to prevent this, but 67.121.* resumes the same behavior (despite frequent) warning, each time the page is unlocked. This was previously reported under the IP addresses User:67.121.95.80 / User:67.121.93.63 (same IP block, obviously same human being at issue).
- Followup: The usually anonymous user from 67.121.* rarely signs talk comments, but once in a while does as "Economist" or similar. The 9th reversion listed is by the "new user" User:Economist123. I presume this user name was added in response to Mackensen's IP block. I don't know how to tell whether some IP spoofing or proxy was also created. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 04:38, 2005 Jun 10 (UTC)
- User:Economist123 has been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet created for the purpose of policy violation. Jayjg (talk) 04:42, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- The IP resolves to Pacific Bell. I'll block for 24 hours, but it probably won't do much good. Mackensen (talk) 04:19, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Three revert rule violation on User:Lulu_of_the_Lotus-Eaters (edit | [[Talk:User:Lulu_of_the_Lotus-Eaters|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 67.121.* (talk · contribs):
- 1st revert: [16]
- 2nd revert: [17]
- 3rd revert: [18]
- 4th revert: [19]
- 5th revert: [20]
- 6th revert: [21]
- 7th revert: [22]
- 8th revert: [23]
Reported by: Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 16:48, 2005 Jun 11 (UTC)
Comments: Our same friend who has frequently violated 3RR on the Nehru page has taken to vandalizing my user page (and that of several other editors also) to include his rambling "Nehru is Stalin" screed, presumably because Nehru got locked against vandalism because of him. Unfortunately, as in the other reports, our vandal has dynamic IP addreses. They initially seemed to all fall in 67.121.*, but now at least one is from 67.124.* as well. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 16:53, 2005 Jun 11 (UTC)
- User:Lulu_of_the_Lotus-Eaters (edit | [[Talk:User:Lulu_of_the_Lotus-Eaters|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is now page protected. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 16:58, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Oh, also my user talk is under similar attack. But I'd hate to lock that, since people need that to make legitimate comments. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 17:05, 2005 Jun 11 (UTC)
At Terrorism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) as BrandonYusufToropov (talk · contribs) and as 24.34.164.83 (talk · contribs)
I've blocked Brandon for 12 hours as this was his first block, but I didn't warn him first because he seemed to be gaming the system, inserting in the edit summary "3rd revert of the day" when in fact it was his fourth. Concentrating on one part of the text he was reverting to for the sake of clarity — that Eric Robert Rudolph was a "radical Christian extremist" rather than "Christian Identity follower" — the diffs are:
- Version reverted to 14:24, Jun 10, 2005
- 1st revert 01:22, Jun 11, 2005
- 2nd revert 01:39, Jun 11, 2005
- 3rd revert 12:54, Jun 11, 2005
- 4th revert 19:20, Jun 11, 2005
SlimVirgin (talk) 19:54, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)
- Brandon and I exchanged e-mails about this, and it seems he did make a genuine mistake, not realizing that the first partial revert would count. He's also indicated that he'll think more carefully before reverting in future, so I'm unblocking him as a gesture of good faith. SlimVirgin (talk) 21:01, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)
Three revert rule violation on Albert Einstein (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 204.56.7.1 (talk · contribs):
- 1st revert: 09:33, 13 June 2005
- 2nd revert: 09:42, 13 June 2005
- 3rd revert: 09:46, 13 June 2005
- 4th revert: 09:50, 13 June 2005
Reported by: Fastfission 16:56, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Comments:
- User has been hard-set on changing the main photo and adding an infobox. Then user adds little bits of information. So when people try to revert the large changes to the photo and the infobox, some information is at first "removed" though clearly not on purpose. User then uses this as an excuse to revert. Trying to game the system, in my assessment, has ignored many pleas to discuss these changes on the talk page before making them or reverting. --Fastfission 16:56, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Oops, I reported her too. Anyway, I certify the above... William M. Connolley 17:06, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC).
- User has been reverting additional times since these were reporting -- must be up to half a dozen by now. Could somebody please block this user? They are being highly disruptive. --Fastfission 19:09, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- (William M. Connolley 22:44, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)) Plea renewed. The reverts appear quite straightforward - why is this tricky?
Commodore Sloat (talk · contribs) is acting as an attack dog for BrandonYusufToropov (talk · contribs); continually reinserting personal attacks into Talk:Jihad (edit | [[Talk:Talk:Jihad|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) in violation of Wikipedia policy on Remove Personal Attacks.
Reported by: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.57.130.8 (talk • contribs) 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Comments:
- I have initiated a mediation intervention here. Let's see if that leads anywhere. Just fyi. Inter\Echo 19:44, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- User:Yuber is now serially reverting the talk page; User:Weyes seems to be assisting. Yuber is up to four reversions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.175.189.222 (talk • contribs) 22:07, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Three revert rule violation on Apartheid (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). AmYisrael (talk · contribs):
- 1st revert: 23:29, 13 Jun 2005
- 2nd revert: 23:37, 13 Jun 2005
- 3rd revert: 23:46, 13 Jun 2005
- 4th revert: 01:31, 14 Jun 2005
- 5th revert: 01:33, 14 Jun 2005
Reported by: Impi 00:07, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Comments:
- User continues to insert POV material, despite the Talk page consensus clearly being against the addition. Also reverts and posts using the sockpuppet 69.217.125.53 Impi 00:07, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Protected the page - now they'll have to "play nice". Noel (talk) 15:04, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Looking at the pattern of edits, it's clear that this is just a case of one editor imposing his will against consensus by quite prodigious numbers of reverts. I've given him a very serious final warning (I don't normally enforce "mere" 3RR's but this goes way beyond that in scale) and I'm asking Noel to consider lifting protection because it's in the interests of Wikipedia to keep our articles editable. This page has been protected for over a week in the recent past and it didn't make a ha'pporth of difference. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 15:16, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I opted for protection because i) it can give a longer period of peace and quiet than the mere 24 hrs of a 3RR block, ii) they are willing to use anon sock-puppets, so it's not clear that a block on the account will stop this. Also, now that I think about it, I'm not sure I completely share you concern about keeping article editable. In the early days, when content was thin, this was a concern. I think the balance may be shifting now, though, as our content gets more mature. Noel (talk) 15:22, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Food for thought there on content maturity. Meanwhile following your message on my talk page I've lifted protection. I've handled a few chaps like this before. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 15:27, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Editor returned and reverted using IP 69.217.125.53. Blocked IP and username for 6 hours for extremely disruptive edits. This goes somewhat beyond normal 3RR in scale. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 17:11, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Three revert rule violation on Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 216.76.219.147 (talk · contribs), 216.76.219.48 (talk · contribs), and 216.76.219.54 (talk · contribs):
- 1st revert: 21:43, 13 Jun 2005
- 2nd revert: 15:42, 14 Jun 2005
- 3rd revert: 21:20, 14 Jun 2005
- 4th revert: 21:21, 14 Jun 2005
Reported by: <>Who?¿? 01:35, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- It is a 3 revert rule violation but Im not sure how big the ip range is.Geni 01:50, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This is about an anon that has access to a "rotating" IP address. He has created trouble constantly in this article. The last set of numbers varies, but the first three are always the same: 216.76.219.{varying set}. We are sure that this is the same person. He has also vandalized constantly the talk page of this article. His changing IP makes it impossible to talk to him directly and very difficult to track his actions. Regards, Redux 17:12, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- URGENT: The anon (with the changing IP address) is now daily blanking the article's talk page [24]. On June 15, a 3RR violation could be said to have occurred (although this is clear vandalism — 3RR would not apply):
- 1st revert: 09:38, 15 Jun 2005
- 2nd revert: 09:50, 15 Jun 2005
- 3rd revert: 17:51, 15 Jun 2005
- 4th revert: 18:27, 15 Jun 2005
- Regards, Redux 02:42, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I have blocked the entire range for 24-hours for vandalism. I can't leave a message for the user, because I have no idea which address(es) they are likely to use; each address in this range seems to have only a few edits. Noel (talk) 05:54, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Three revert rule violation on Islamophobia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Germen (talk · contribs):
- 1st revert: 17:33, 14 Jun 2005
- 2nd revert: 17:45, 14 Jun 2005
- 3rd revert: 18:13, 14 Jun 2005
- 4th revert: 21:26, 14 Jun 2005
Reported by: Axon 11:04, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Is there any reason the above incident has been ignored? Axon 23:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Three revert rule violation on Wikipedia:Introduction (edit | [[Talk:Wikipedia:Introduction|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Sandbot (talk · contribs):
Reported by: SPUI (talk) 19:57, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Comments:
- I understand that this is not a standard case, but the presence of a bot that can violate the 3RR is just as bad if not worse than a normal 3RR violation. Sandbot continually reinserts the text "No profanity, please." inside a comment. I have given my reasons for not including it on Wikipedia talk:Introduction. --SPUI (talk) 19:57, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I won't block this, and I advise any other admin to do the same. My reasons:
- Its task was approved on Wikipedia talk:Bots
- The change is wholly beneficial, and all it would take to remove the offending line is a note to AllyUnion and gaining consensus on the talk page. It's hardly urgent.
- I don't believe 3RR is applicable in sandboxes anyway. smoddy 20:10, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I won't block this, and I advise any other admin to do the same. My reasons:
- "Reverts intended to perform maintenance—such as on the Introduction or the Sandbox—are likewise allowed."Geni 02:25, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I agree. This just goes to show how badly the Sandbot was needed and what wonderful work it's doing. --W(t) 12:04, 2005 Jun 16 (UTC)
Violation on Iglesia ni Cristo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- 1st revert: [25]
- 2nd revert: [26]
- 3rd revert: [27]
- 4th revert: [28] (Note: this is a diff that includes the current version, so it may not show the revert properly if additional edits follow)
I've already blocked him, just reporting that fact here. This came to my attention because Emico requested that the article be protected on his version. When I determined that he was the only one in violation of the rule, I blocked him instead. I checked Emico's talk page to make sure he's been warned about the rule before, so he can't claim to have been unaware of it. --Michael Snow 04:24, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Three revert rule violation on China (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Mimiian (talk · contribs) (all times UTC-4):
- 1st revert: 07:30, 15 Jun 2005
- 2nd revert: 05:48, 16 Jun 2005
- 3rd revert: 07:56, 16 Jun 2005
- 4th revert: 08:07, 16 Jun 2005
- 5th revert: Current revision as of 08:16, 16 Jun 2005
Reported by: MarkSweep 12:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Comments:
Three revert rule violation on Circumcision (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). ScapegoatVandal (talk · contribs):
Reported by: JFW | T@lk 16:18, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Three revert rule violation on Judaizers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). ScapegoatVandal (talk · contribs):
Reported by: Jayjg (talk) 19:01, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Comments:
- I have a stake as one of the contestants, so I have not banned SV personally. He has come to the talk page ranting that his POV is NPOV and that we are strawmanning him for antisemitism and conspiracy theories. JFW | T@lk 16:29, 16 Jun 2005
- No, you are making another straw man fallacy. I hate Nazis, Judeofascists and Communists with equal gusto. I made no conspiracy and you have yet to prove how it is false and a conspiracy. Playing stupid doesn't count. ScapegoatVandal (talk · contribs) 17:14, 16 Jun 2005
- Ethnocentric bullying is wrong and you have violated the 3RR so many more times too, but I haven't been taking count of this part in the hypocrisy you spew. ScapegoatVandal 18:04, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- No individual user apart from you has violated the 3RR. This is not "ethnocentric bullying" but the removal of a highly speculative unsourced view, as explained on talk:Circumcision without insults and rants. JFW | T@lk 18:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Regardless of language, you Jews have incited it. I am frustrated that only you Jews get away with POV pushing on doubly ethnocentric and ethnoreligious bounds. I am not the only person that gets his edits to Jew topics reverted. It's all over the edit histories. You cannot disprove that you were there doing as I have said. Too bad buddy, you are way out of line and absolutely corrupt. You can't hide your trail of deception on the Wiki. Of course others have violated that rule. You're telling me that others who rv more than 3, 4, 5, 6 times probably even are not guilty of this wrongdoing? Nice spin doctoring, as I have already accused you of and it is right. Jews do this spin and get away with it. All the false politeness aka sugar coating won't save you from the flies attracted to you. [personal attack removed] ScapegoatVandal 18:37, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I never said the rule was wrong. Stop playing guessing games and giving me a verdict. I said that you all exploit the rule's loopholes to push POV. ScapegoatVandal 19:05, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- You keep fucking with my edits over language, but I will let you remove them from these other pages if you feel like it. Just don't do that on my profile pages and we have a deal. ScapegoatVandal 19:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Blocked for 24 hours. Gamaliel 19:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)