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August 28

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Unitarian villages in Transylvania

Category:Unitarian villages in Transylvania - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Villages in Transylvania, just like villages all over the world, are not divided by "religion". Even if the population of those villages is 99% or 100% Unitarian, the villages themselves will not be "Unitarian". Furthermore, those "villages" are actually communes. Dahn 16:40, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Comedy Central Roast

Category:Comedy Central Roast - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete - contained a bunch of stub articles for the various roasts which I've merged and redirect to the main article. No need for the category. Otto4711 16:32, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps

Category:Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete - unnecessary eponymous category for a TV show. Category not needed for the small amount of material. Otto4711 16:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eponymous musician categories - L

Category:LCD Soundsystem - Template:Lc1
Category:La 5ª Estación - Template:Lc1
Category:Left For Dead - Template:Lc1
Category:The Legendary Pink Dots - Template:Lc1
Category:The Lemonheads - Template:Lc1
Category:Les Cowboys Fringants - Template:Lc1
Category:Les Variations - Template:Lc1
Category:Level 42 - Template:Lc1
Category:Liberators (band) - Template:Lc1
Category:Lillix - Template:Lc1
Category:Limp Bizkit - Template:Lc1
Category:Live (band) - Template:Lc1
Category:Luna Sea - Template:Lc1
Category:Luttenberger*Klug - Template:Lc1
Category:Lynch Mob (band) - Template:Lc1
Category:Lynyrd Skynyrd - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete all - each of these categories consists of some combination of the following subcats: albums; members; songs; (and in several cases no subcats) along with the artist's category and in some instances a discography article. Per precedent this is overcategorization. The only exception is LCD Soundsystem which has James Murphy (electronic musician) in it. Murphy is LCD Soundsystem and the two articles are interlinked through text so the category isn't needed just for his article. Otto4711 14:04, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

People by school in England

Propose renaming Category:Old Alleynians to Category:Old Alleynians (Dulwich College)
Propose renaming Category:Old Cholmeleians to Category:Old Cholmeleians (Highgate School)
Propose renaming Category:Old Clavians to Category:Old Clavians (Bury Grammar School)
Propose renaming Category:Old Elizabethans to Category:Old Elizabethans (Royal Grammar School Worcester)
Propose renaming Category:Old Fullerians to Category:Old Fullerians (Watford Grammar School for Boys)
Propose renaming Category:Old Gowers to Category:Old Gowers (University College School)
Propose renaming Category:Old Gregorians to Category:Old Gregorians (Downside School)
Propose renaming Category:Old Mancunians to Category:Old Mancunians (Manchester Grammar School)
Propose renaming Category:Old Priorians to Category:Old Priorians (St Benedict's School)
Propose renaming Category:Old Stoics to Category:Old Stoics (Stowe School)
Propose renaming Category:Old Verlucians to Category:Old Verlucians (Warminster School)
Propose renaming Category:Old Waconians to Category:Old Waconians (Cheadle Hulme School)
Propose renaming Category:Old Waynfletes to Category:Old Waynfletes (Magdalen College School, Oxford)
Propose renaming Category:Old Wykehamists to Category:Old Wykehamists (Winchester College)
Nominator's rationale: Rename all. The terms for former pupils of individual British schools can be deeply confusing and this in turn makes the categories on pages confusing - see the previous CFD Old Citizens which renamed it to Old Citizens (City of London School). Another category where the name of the Old Pupil doesn't immediately reflect the school name so clarity is provided is Christ's Hospital Old Blues. These categories are amongst the most confusing and should have the names modified to include reference to the school's name for consistency. Timrollpickering 13:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Esperantists

Category:Esperantists - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete - this seems like overcategorization on the basis of opinion or advocacy. Inclusion criteria, based on the definition of Esperantist in the article, seems rather arbitrary. Otto4711 13:26, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lollipop Lust Kill

Category:Lollipop Lust Kill - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete - everything in it is an album and already housed in Category:Lollipop Lust Kill albums. Otto4711 13:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Liszt

Category:Liszt - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete - eponymous overcategorization. Doesn't meet the exception laid out in the guideline. Everything is for people associated with him in some way and are interlinked appropriately. If kept should be renamed to Category:Franz Liszt. Otto4711 13:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have added the compositions cat as a sub-cat, thus expanding the category contents greatly. If kept should be renamed per nom. Not sure about keep/delete yet. Johnbod 13:18, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Major Media Scandals (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Rename to Category:Journalism scandals, convention of Category:Scandals, or Delete as subjective. -- Prove It (talk) 13:05, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Soleilmoon label

Propose renaming Category:Soleilmoon label to Category:Soleilmoon artists
Nominator's rationale: Rename - everything in the category except the label article is artists. Rename to clarify. Otto4711 12:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Politicians of Afghanistan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Merge into Category:Afghan politicians, per conventions of Category:Politicians by country, plus discussions of July 27th and August 20th. -- Prove It (talk) 12:33, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ray Lamontagne

Category:Ray Lamontagne - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete - eponymous overcategorization. Main article plus album subcat doesn't need an eponymous category. Otto4711 12:32, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Denny Laine

Category:Denny Laine - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete - eponymous overcategorization. Does not meet the exception laid out at the guideline and everything in the category is appropriately interlinked through the main article and elsewhere categorized. Otto4711 12:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Indian Philosophy

Category:Reality films

Category:Reality films - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: I think this category is a bad idea. This category was created due to a dispute between two editors over the proper usage of the word "documentary." One editor's opinion was that certain films should be called "reality films" and one editor provided sources that referred to them as documentaries).[1] No sources have ever been provided that refer to any of the films in this category as "reality films", with the possible exception of The Real Cancun -- which was called "the world's first reality feature film" by it's distributor, New Line Cinema: It's fun and sexy, unscripted and uncensored. It's The Real Cancun, the world's first reality feature film. Produced by the creators of "The Real World" and "Road Rules," this film brings together 16 people for eight days in a beachfront Mexican villa for the ultimate Spring Break vacation.[2] I don't think the film's marketing department counts as a reliable source. The encyclopedia entry for The Real Cancun refers to it as a documentary, as does the Internet Movie Database[3], Metacritic[4], Rotten Tomatoes[5], Box Office Mojo[6], and All Movie Guide[7]. Joel Stein of TIME magazine said "Like reality TV, a reality film is supercheap"[8], but he never directly called The Real Cancun a "reality film." Tom Ryan of The Age wrote an article[9] and used the phrase "Reality film" as the title of his article -- not as an all-encompassing category of all the films he mentioned. Even if we accept New Line's Cinema claim that The Real Cancun is a "reality feature film", that's still not quite "reality film" and this category would only have 1 article in it. Please see Talk:Reality_film#Comment by Pixelface for my long comment on the topic. Pixelface 10:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Avery Small(Football Warrior).jpg

Category:Avery Small(Football Warrior).jpg - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: nonsense, self promotion PGPirate 05:52, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Parody characters

Category:Parody characters - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Aside from being quite broad (the category may well include every character in every comedy), it is difficult to actually prove that a character is a parody of someone else (real or fictional) without delving into original research. The only possible exceptions are cases like Saddam Hussein (South Park) and when the character's creator explicitly states: "X is a parody of Y". Thus, I think that the inclusion criteria for this category are not objective enough. Black Falcon (Talk) 00:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]