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Statement of the dispute

User:Salom Khalitun disrupts the work on Talk:The Holocaust by anti-Semitic remarks and personal attacks.

Desired outcome

The following, in deceasing order of desirability, would be considered a scuccess.

  1. User: Salom Khalitun realizes the inaceptability of his behavior, stops it, apologizes, and engages in a constructive dialogue.
  2. He realizes the inaceptability of his behavior, stops it, and engages in a constructive dialogue.
  3. He realizes the inaceptability of his behavior, stops it, and stops editing the article in question.
  4. The user is banned from editing the article and stops his permanent violation of various Wikipedia policies, especially his personal and anti-semitic attacks.
  5. User: Salom Khalitun is banned from editing Wikipedia.

Description

User:Salom Khalitun has engaged in a debate about the scope of the term "Holocaust" on The Holocaust, Talk:The Holocaust, and, by now, User Talk:Salom Khalitun. During the course of the debate he has repeatedly suggested that all opposing voices, whether by outside reliable sources or by other Wikipedia editors, are dishonest, "racists", and motivated by that sources "Jewishness".

Apart from the fact that these claims are classical ad-hominem attacks, they are in several cases factually wrong and always unsourced. They show a failure to assume good faith and constitute personal attacks and demonstrate a depressing level of anti-Semitism.

This is just one example of this user's anti-Semitic rants. Superficially, the issue is the origin of the use of the word "Holocaust" to refer to Nazi attrocities against the Jews as described in The Holocaust. The article also notes that the phrase has been expanded to refer to wider Nazi attrocities. Salom repeatedly claims that the narrower definition is used by Jewish sources exclusively, with the aim of denying the suffering of others.

Evidence of disputed behavior

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  5. [5]
  6. [6]
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Applicable policies and guidelines

  1. WP:NPA
  2. WP:AGF
  3. Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point
  4. Etiquette

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

  1. [8] comment by User:Paul Barlow
  2. This exchange with Stephan Schulz, at Khalitun's talk page
  3. This warning by Dreadstar at Khalitun's talk page


"The persons complaining must provide evidence of their efforts" - The complainant Rubenstein has made no efforts. All he has done is be remarkably abusive. The request for comment is therefore flawed even on procedural grounds alone. --Salom Khalitun 16:22, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Users certifying the basis for this dispute

{Users who tried and failed to resolve the dispute}

  1. Paul B 16:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Stephan Schulz 16:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Other users who endorse this summary

  1. Slrubenstein | Talk 17:24, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Response

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Rubenstein has already been personally very abusive and offensive. He has no shame. :*you....are a racist anti-Semite. But as you are a racist you are probably incapable of logical thought. At this point I see no reason to continue responding to a blatant anti-semite. The discussion is over. Slrubenstein | Talk 18:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Most of my friends are Jewish !!! --Salom Khalitun 15:58, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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