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Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.
An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.
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Violations
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User:122.49.175.210 reported by User:Cyrus XIII (Result: 36 hours to Jun kakeko, 24 hours to IP )
- Three-revert rule violation on
Dir en grey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 122.49.175.210 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 19:02, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 09:24, September 23, 2007
- 1st revert: 16:12, September 23, 2007
- 2nd revert: 16:44, September 23, 2007
- 3rd revert: 17:17, September 23, 2007
- 4th revert: 20:43, September 23, 2007
- 5th revert: 21:33, September 23, 2007
- 6th revert: 01:39, September 24, 2007
- 7th revert: 02:54, September 24, 2007
- 8th revert: 03:30, September 24, 2007
- Diff of 3RR warning: 17:38, September 23, 2007
Repeated reinsertion of information that several other editors either deemed improperly sourced or irrelevant to the article. Other (properly cited) content was removed in the process. - Cyrus XIII 19:02, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- I took a very quick look at it and my thoughts are this: Issue at hand is the fact that while the English source does provide the band's name directly, the Sankei link (in Japanese) doesn't mention the group at all. Anyone else want to sort this out? - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 19:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- That's right, the English source mentions the band, but only in connection with the fraudulent orders ("for producing promotional videos for such artists as "Dir en grey,""). Yet the IP based editor has repeatedly reinserted the information, that the fundings illegally obtained through these orders were particularly used to cover overhead costs of aforementioned band, which is inaccurate and thus unacceptable per WP:BLP. - Cyrus XIII 20:11, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
This user has also been edit warring elsewhere (before the warning) inserting the same information on other pages: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] I would be less concerned if this was just an edit war, but it seems to be something more. Denaar 19:09, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Free-Will (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 122.49.175.210 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 19:39, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 07:45, September 23, 2007
- 1st revert: 07:48, September 23, 2007
- 2nd revert: 16:15, September 23, 2007
- 3rd revert: 21:02, September 23, 2007
- 4th revert: 21:32, September 23, 2007
- Diff of 3RR warning: see above
As data provided by WHOIS, as well as certain behavior patterns seem to match, could the reviewing administrator take a look at these previous 3RR violations and determine whether there is a genuine scope for relation? [7] [8] [9] [10] This would imply at least six 3RR violations from the same person. - Cyrus XIII 19:46, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- The editor has since identified himself as user Jun kaneko (talk · contribs).[11] - Cyrus XIII 01:50, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Based on the history of editor, 36 hours to main account, and 24 hours to IP. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 02:14, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Sciencewatcher reported by User:Taroaldo (Result: Protected.)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Sciencewatcher (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 21:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: [12]
- 1st revert: [13]
- 2nd revert: [14]
- 3rd revert: [15]
- 4th revert: [16]
- 5th revert: [17]
- 6th revert: [18]
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.
- Diff of 3RR warning: [19]
(Not a new user, but warning was placed. Can see the response on my Talk page.)
Sciencewatcher has continued to revert the removal of a controversial sentence which has had a citation request tag on it since May. Editors have attempted to engage this user on the article's talk page, but have not had success. Taroaldo 21:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- Actually it was Taroaldo who reverted the information 3 times. I reverted it twice because he gave an invalid reason. The third time I added a citation, thinking this would satisfy him. When it didn't, I tried to discuss it with him on his talk page and the article's talk page, but he is being unreasonable and is now accusing me of breaking the 3RR rule, which I didn't do (in fact he broke the 3RR rule before he even put the 3RR warning on my talk page).
- I would suggest you look at the CFS page as there are 2 edit wars going on. Taroaldo and another user are bullying me in order to try to keep their POV and no others on the page. --Sciencewatcher 21:55, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- Protected, note on talk. Navou banter 22:07, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Barateiro reported by User:Videmus Omnia (Result: already blocked)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Monica Bellucci (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Barateiro (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 21:36, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- Edit-warring over infobox photo on Monica Bellucci.
- Diff of 3RR warning: diff
Reported by Videmus Omnia Talk 21:36, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Ghirlandajo and User:Dbachmann reported by User:Moosh88 (Result: 24 hours to Moosh88 )
- Three-revert rule violation on
Hurrians (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Armenia (name) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Armenian language (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Proto-Armenian language (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Graeco-Aryan language (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). NAME_OF_USER (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 21:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: [20]
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.
- Diff of 3RR warning: [25]
The information I have added on the above article has been removed for no reason by the two stated editors. One of the editors, User:Ghirlandajo has been blocked before for inciting a 3RR edit war, which is what I believe he is trying to do now. And User:Dbachmann is not holding himself to the higher standards of an administrator, nor is he neautral, nor does he cite the reasons why he reverted Moosh88 21:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- I personally don't see any violation of 3RR on part of either User:Ghirlandajo or User:Dbachmann, however the actions of User:Moosh88 are clearly covered by this ruling of Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2: [26] Within just the last couple of days Moosh88 was engaged in massive canvassing, edit warring across multiple pages and incivility. I believe this requires the attention of admins. Grandmaster 07:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- bogus report. Moosh88 has been warned about canvassing before. --dab (𒁳) 07:49, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Before you file, remember that both sides will be looked at. While you could say that Dbachmann and Ghirl both might be gaming the system, you made four different
reverts here to this revision, so you're getting blocked for 24 hours. No actions to Ghirlandajo and Dbachmann at this time. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 08:30, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- we are not "gaming the system". We are merely rolling back offtopic, unreliably sourced or unsourced additions. That the burden of defending these on talk is on Moosh88 is perfectly straightforward Wikipedia-as-usual. This is at best a content dispute, blending into fringe-warrior territory. --dab (𒁳) 10:12, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Peter Isotalo reported by User:Naacats (Result: Page Protected)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Smoking (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Peter Isotalo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: Naacats 23:37, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I hope I did this right. This user is preventing any editing or discussion of the article. I placed a discussion and he deleted it. I requested citations, he removed them. He removed the neutral point of view tag I placed as well. While the 3 revisions didn't happen in 24 hours, he's been consistantly doing it, not only to me, but to anyone who tries to improve the article (which he originally wrote) I also see he's been reported for this before, in this very same article, and been banned for it.
- Page Protected by Animum. You guys need to sort this out on talk page. Note that COI issues may be present. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 01:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- I'd just like to point out that Naacats is a pro-smoking activist who promotes his own website NAACATS (North American Association of Cigarette and Tobacco Smokers) and the article Smokers Rights in smoking articles across the board and has consistently removed links and slanted information that is deemed be too unfavorable to (tobacco) smoking. There's even been an appeal on the NAACATS website to assist in removing allegedly biased information about the health hazards of smoking. Peter Isotalo 09:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
User:141.161.98.98 reported by User:Mike.lifeguard (Result: No violation )
- Three-revert rule violation on
RMS Lusitania (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 141.161.98.98 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 00:16, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.
- Diff of 3RR warning: [30]
The line was removed by Miguel1626 with a note on the talk page [31]. This IP has repeatedly re-added the line despite warnings and suggestions to discuss changes on the talk page. – Mike.lifeguard | talk 00:16, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- 3 reverts only. No violation. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 01:44, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Street20 reported by User:Chrisjnelson (Result: 24h )
- Three-revert rule violation on
John Smoltz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Street20 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 02:08, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 21:59, September 23, 2007
- 1st revert: 19:44, September 23, 2007
- 2nd revert: 20:41, September 23, 2007
- 3rd revert: 21:48, September 23, 2007
- 4th revert: 21:55, September 23, 2007
- 5th revert: 21:59, September 23, 2007
User:Street20 keeps undoing a correct edit on John Smoltz, replacing the player's years with the organization with the years he was healthy, which is not how it is traditionally done. So not only has user violated 3RR, his edit is incorrect. User has been engaged in discussion on talk page but has yet to respond. He maintains his edit is common but has not backed this up - because it is a false claim.►Chris Nelson 02:08, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- You're both blocked 24 hours, since I rather suspect I know who that IP who conveniently intervened was. Prodego talk 02:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Request a checkuser, that's not me. I'm not the only one that's reverted him, his edit is wrong and most people know it.►Chris Nelson 02:21, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Per Dmcdevit, checkuser was ran and neither IP that reverted during the day was matched to Chrisjnelson. For that, I've unblocked him. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 03:28, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Request a checkuser, that's not me. I'm not the only one that's reverted him, his edit is wrong and most people know it.►Chris Nelson 02:21, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you. I did not want to be blocked for 3RR when I did not revert four times.►Chris Nelson 03:57, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Page protected. Discussion needed. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 02:39, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Quelt42 reported by User:Percy Snoodle (Result: 24 h block)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Settlers of Catan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Quelt42 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 09:34, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 02:29, 21 September 2007
Reverts within 24-hour period:
- 1st revert: 00:11, 23 September 2007
- 2nd revert: 05:01, 23 September 2007
- 3rd revert: 10:56, 23 September 2007
- 4th revert: 20:51, 23 September 2007
Warnings:
- Diff of 1st 3RR warning (after 2nd revert): 10:29, 23 September 2007
- Diff of 2nd 3RR warning (after 3rd revert): 11:15, 23 September 2007
User:Quelt42 added an external link to a Java implementation of Settlers of Catan, which was removed in line with WP:EL. He has reverted that and all subsequent attempts to remove the link. Listed reversions are not the only ones, but are the four that have come within a 24-hour period despite warnings. Percy Snoodle 09:34, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- User was clearly and repeatedly warned, and is directly in violation of WP:EL as well as 3RR. I'll block for 24 hours; it'll be longer next time. WaltonOne 13:13, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Estgeorge reported by User:GreenJoe (Result: No vio on Estgeorge, GreenJoe warned)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Ontario Health Insurance Plan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Estgeorge (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 14:41, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 10:23, 24 September 2007
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.
- Diff of 3RR warning: [36]
He continues to inject his own POV, unreferenced opinion into the article. GreenJoe 14:41, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- No violation by Estgeorge. GreenJoe on the other hand has 4 reverts. Since he's not warned, I will warn instead of block. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 14:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- The anon user was likely him. Thank for for giving me the benefit of the doubt. GreenJoe 17:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- I went and looked at the history, and the anon user went and did it again after this report. He's trying to skirt the 3RR rule. GreenJoe 17:27, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
User:DIREKTOR reported by User:Giovanni Giove (Result: 24h to DIREKTOR, 72h to Giovanni)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Mauro Orbini (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). DIREKTOR (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 15:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
A short explanation of the incident.
I've tried different versions and I've tried an agreement (see history). All my edits in all the articles are regulary reverted by user Direktor, acting toghehter other users.. He refuse all the compromises, just imposing his POV as it is. Giovanni Giove 15:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- This editor is very "POV" and has also violated the 3RR, as is evident in the History page of the article. He has NOT tried discussing and persists in making completely incorrect (and offensive) edits. He has been confronted by several editors (User:Zenanarh, User:Zmaj and myself) but refuses to stop pushing his POV. DIREKTOR (TALK) 15:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- DIREKTOR blocked 24h for edit-warring. Giovanni blocked for 72h due to past history. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 15:46, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
User:85.74.44.243 reported by User:El_Greco (Result: 24 hours)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Athens (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 85.74.44.243 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 22:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 13:33 Sept 21, 2007
- 1st revert: 5:42 Sept 24, 2007
- 2nd revert: 15:55 Sept 24, 2007
- 3rd revert: 16:11 Sept 24, 2007
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.
- Diff of 3RR warning: 16:12
85.74.44.243 continues to revert changed made through a discussion on the talk page about limiting the number of images on the Athens article. See also the above discussion: 85.74.151.103 The user not only continues to spam the article with images, the user now revert text, which has been spell checked and edited. The user continues to ignore that, and has done so before:85.74.252.219 back on Aug 31, 2007 He has also started on Thessaloniki See: Before Sept 21 After Sept 21 El Greco (talk · contribs) 16:24, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Navou (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) has blocked the user for a period of 24 hours for his/her disruption at Athens. Nishkid64 (talk) 17:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Arcayne reported by User:Viriditas (Result: )
- Three-revert rule violation on
User:Operation Spooner (edit | [[Talk:User:Operation Spooner|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Arcayne (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 01:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 23:46, 24 September 2007
- 1st revert: 23:53, 24 September 2007
- 2nd revert: 00:34, 25 September 2007
- 3rd revert: 00:48, 25 September 2007
- 4th revert: 00:54, 25 September 2007
Arcayne is involved in a long term content dispute with User:Operation Spooner on Ronald Reagan and has been harassing him on his user and talk pages with multiple reverts in Operation Spooner's user space. Arcayne insists he is removing personal attacks, but according to WP:NPA this does not appear to be the case. The content in question appears to be a personal essay by Operation Spooner concerning ownership issues/strategies that neither mentions user names or points fingers. I made an attempt to rewrite the User content to satisfy Arcayne's concerns, who is convinced that the essay is about him, but I was reverted. My compromise attempt consisted of removing ambiguous wording and helping the User focus on addressing his own personal experience with WP:OWN, which is what his user page appeared to suggest (Please see my efforts). Having direct experience with writing portions of WP:OWN some time ago, and focusing on specific aspects that User:Operation Spooner describes, this task greatly appealed to me. As his block log shows, Arcayne is very familiar with 3RR. —Viriditas | Talk 01:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, let's put this into its proper perspective. Operation Spooner has been adding personal attacks on his user page for over a month, and has been advised of the NPA violations they constitute. Instead of removing them as requested by no less than three admins, he has actually expanded upon these personal attacks. I was removing them, as these updates occurred every time his edits in the Ronald Reagan article occurred.
- Now, Viriditas, who I have had extensive personal conflicts with over the past year, and who I have ried very much to avoid as one of those people who make Wikipedia suck to edit. Yesterday, he began revising my edits in WP:Lead, and then began attacking my edits in both SPAM and San Francisco burrito, using uncivil language and personal attacks. He then accused me of wikistalking and harrassment and being a bad editor, and apparently just raining on his parade or whatever.
- Magically, he shows up in the OperationSpooner user page and begins reverting my edits, calling himself a "diosnterested" and "neutral" third party. Clearly, he is not - and I was pursuing filing an RfC in regards to his long-term abusive and threatening behavior, but I am currently at work, and filing such is a fairly slow matter.
- I contend that removing personal attacks is not subject to 3RR, and that I clearly explained my removal of the sections in question in the edit summaries. I am allowed to protect myself from personal attacks. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 01:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) As well, i would note that I have revert my changes to Spooner's page (it took some time, as the database kept locking while the servers caught up), and wait for an admin to weigh in. This is to avoid appearing to edit war over what I still feel are personal attacks, and Viriditas' non-neutral wikistalking. I am too close to this to act neutrally myself, and am removing myself from the issue. Hopefully, an nautral admin will be better able to address the situation. As for Viriditas, I will address the wikistalking nad harrassm,ent through another noticeboard. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 01:45, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Please show evidence of Spooner's personal attacks that you removed, with quotes. Also, please show how my revision of Spooner's admittedly bizarre essay consisted of "personal attacks". These are Spooner's personal beliefs about his experience on Wikipedia, and you had no right to remove them. —Viriditas | Talk 01:41, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Forgive me, but I have nothing to say to you outside of an RfC, Viriditas. You are cynically using this matter to wikistalk. I could name 6 other editors and admins who have counseled you about your behavior, and every time you ignore them. You have more in common with Spooner than you know. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 01:45, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for providing an example of your WP:NPA. Now, please show where Spooner has made them, particularly in my revision of his essay which focuses on ownership issues, not individual editors. —Viriditas | Talk 01:47, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Sigh, anyone taking a look at his user contributions would clearly be able to see that he would make an edit to the Ronald Reagan article, (usually get reverted) and then go about making a revision to his warnings for new users subject. As a great many were directed at me or User:Happyme22, I took them as personal attacks. At least three admins pointed out to him that these were personal attacks. Spooner promptly ignored them. Anyone looking at Viriditas' edit history will show that he showed up for the first time where I was editing to revet my edits after another clash on San Francisco burrito. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 02:04, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- I'm still not seeing the evidence of the personal attacks you claim to have reverted on Operation Spooner's user page. Can you please present them here? All I see is someone involved in a content dispute harassing a user in their user space and hiding under the "NPA" policy to bully and intimidate another user. Please present the personal attacks you claim Spooner made on his user page that forced you to violate the 3RR. —Viriditas | Talk 02:10, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Sigh, anyone taking a look at his user contributions would clearly be able to see that he would make an edit to the Ronald Reagan article, (usually get reverted) and then go about making a revision to his warnings for new users subject. As a great many were directed at me or User:Happyme22, I took them as personal attacks. At least three admins pointed out to him that these were personal attacks. Spooner promptly ignored them. Anyone looking at Viriditas' edit history will show that he showed up for the first time where I was editing to revet my edits after another clash on San Francisco burrito. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 02:04, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for providing an example of your WP:NPA. Now, please show where Spooner has made them, particularly in my revision of his essay which focuses on ownership issues, not individual editors. —Viriditas | Talk 01:47, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- I have just learned that WP:RPA as a valid method for defending against personal attacks was rejected a little over a week ago after lengthy discussion. Unfortunately, I am at work at this time and cannot put together the diffs that would clearly show the relationship between Spooner's edits being turned down in the Reagan article and his updating of his section on warnings for new editors. As well, had I the time, i would be able to deomonstrate the correlation between Viriditas' wiki-stalking and subsequent insertion into the Spooner issue and clearly demonstrate that Viriditas was not acting as a "neutral party" but was in fact engaged in a pattern of harrassment. I won't spend too much time on the latter here, as this isn't the place for it (RfO or RfC is a better venue, I think), instead providing the background to indicate that Viriditas is not acting neutrally here, and in fact is as guity of breaking 3RR as he accuses me of being:
- Arcayne (cast a spell) 02:44, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- I am going to comment about the Ronald Reagan article, which has prompted all of this. The lead was in decent shape about two weeks before becoming a FA on August 25, until Spooner added a highly detailed outline of Reagan's economic policies. Eventually, he and I whittled it down to an extra sentence, something we were both okay with. After passing the FAC, Arcayne and a few others joined the "team" of editors, and one of Arcayne's first edits was redoing much of lead, which included generalizing even what Spooner and I worked out and adding some more about his presidency. Eventually, Spooner readded in that lot about his economic philosphy, so the editors (including User:Info999, User:Rise Above the Vile, User:Brian Pearson, User:Stanselmdoc, User:Paul.h, Arcayne, and myself) came to a concensus saying that the material Spooner wanted is true, but was too detailed for the lead section per WP:LEAD, which says the lead should provide a general overview of the subject and not focus too much on one topic. Well, to say it frankly, Spooner rejected the entire concept of concensus, saying his version should stay in because he and I agreed on it before (see Talk:Ronald Reagan). An admin tried to explain to him that concensus was always changing, but I don't know what came of that. Arcayne even took the liberty of adding it into the Governor section to try and solve this problem! Anyway, we eventually compromised with Spooner, but he apparently seems to be going against that compromise and changing it again. Arcayne and many other editors have asked him to please explain why his material should go in the lead on the talk page, but the conversation usually warps into how someone is personally attacking someone else, and the "your wrong, and I'm right!" crap. Anyway, I don't know of this helps, but here's the story. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance. Best, Happyme22 05:24, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Tromaintern reported by User:Bignole (Result: 24 hours for sockpuppetry)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Slither (2006 film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Tromaintern (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 03:45, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: [41] - This version was a version agreed upon in a discussion that took place on the talk page. Tromaintern did not like the consensus and has decided to revert to their preferred version, even after being warned at 23:30, September 24, 2007 for reaching their 3 reverts for the 24 hour period.
- 1st revert: 21:55, September 24, 2007
- 2nd revert: 22:32, September 24, 2007
- 3rd revert: 23:27, September 24, 2007
- 4th revert: 23:37, September 24, 2007
- It may need to be noted that Tromaintern has been reported as a possible sock puppet of User:Ogabadaga, who was indefinitely blocked.
- Blocked for 24 hours by Cuchullain for sockpuppetry. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 04:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
User:MattJanovic reported by User:Proper tea is theft (Result: 24 hours)
- Three-revert rule violation on
David Vitter (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). MattJanovic (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 04:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 03:44, 25 September 2007
- 1st revert: 19:40, 24 September 2007
- 2nd revert: 02:34, 25 September 2007
- 3rd revert: 02:55, 25 September 2007
- 4th revert: 03:44, 25 September 2007
- Diff of 3RR warning: 02:59, 25 September 2007
New user continues to post lengthy, speculative text derived from from a site called yardbird.com into the lead. At least three editors have reverted the addition of this text, and two have expressed opposition to the addtion of this text on the talk page.
--Proper tea is theft 04:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Clear cut. Blocked for 24h. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 04:32, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Bearcat reported by User:Lonewolf BC (Result:Both users wanred )
- Three-revert rule violation on
Rick Mercer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Bearcat (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 06:28, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- 1st revert: 23:31, 24 September -- rv to version of 20:30, 22 September, wrt the section concerned (but adding a reference)
- 2nd revert: 00:10, 25 September -- rv to version of 23:31, 24 September
- 3rd revert: 00:39&00:47, 25 September -- rv to version of 00:10, 25 September, wrt use of "gay" rather than "homosexual"
- 4th revert: 00:58, 25 September -- rv to version of 00:47, 25 September
No warning given, but Bearcat is an admin and so should know better
A few days ago, in accordance with WP:BLP, I deleted unreferenced claims that Mercer is homosexual. Bearcat restored them once w/o a reference (outside the 3rr window), then again with a reference (1st revert, above), then reverted trimming of the material, and details of its wording. -- Lonewolf BC 06:28, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Lonwolf BC, you've also borken the 3RR rule, I've given you both a warning - please don't edit war. Ryan Postlethwaite 13:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Not that I can see. I'd be grateful if you pointed out what you see as a fourth revert on my part. (Here or my talkpage; it's all the same to me.) -- Lonewolf BC 16:00, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
User:82.29.19.133 reported by User:Court Jester (Result:24 hours )
- Three-revert rule violation on
Bourbon whiskey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 82.29.19.133 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 10:03, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: VersionTime
- 1st revert: 10:54, September 23, 2007 (UTC)
- 2nd revert: 16:39, September 24, 2007 (UTC)
- 3rd revert: 18:47, September 24, 2007 (UTC)
- 4th revert: 21:50, September 24, 2007 (UTC)
- 5th revert: 08:50, September 25, 2007 (UTC)
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.
- Diff of 3RR warning: 22:31, September 24, 2007 (UTC)
Anonymous user determined to place phonemic pronunciation guides, against relative guidelines, on a number of pages including Bourbon whiskey, Bourbon biscuit, Ciabatta, Johann Sebastian Bach, and other pages. Jester 10:03, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Blocked by allen3 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) for 24 hours. Ryan Postlethwaite 13:13, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
User:RolandR reported by User:ILuvJajah (Result:48 hours )
- Three-revert rule violation on
Jajah (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). RolandR (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 14:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 09:56, 6 September 2007
- 1st revert: 14:48, 24 September 2007
- 2nd revert: 17:17, 24 September 2007
- 3rd revert: 19:57, 24 September 2007
- 4th revert: 13:00, 25 September 2007
RolnadR has been blocked for 3Rr 3 times before.
- Blocked for 48 hours due to previous blocks for edit warring. Ryan Postlethwaite 14:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
User:71.72.130.221 reported by User:Andrew c (Result:24 hours)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Misogyny (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 71.72.130.221 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 14:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 14:35, 23 September 2007
- 1st revert: 15:52, 24 September 2007
- 2nd revert: 16:31, 24 September 2007
- 3rd revert: 10:27, 25 September 2007
- 4th revert: 10:40, 25 September 2007
- 5th revert: 10:47, 25 September 2007
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.
- Diff of 3RR warning: 10:40, 25 September 2007
The user has repetitively been inserting commentary into quoted text. I have tried to explain why this is problematic, and warned for 3RR. I am an admin, but because I was involved in the undoing, I am not going to use the tools myself to block, and would like an uninvolved admin to review the case. The last edit seems to be trying to accommodate my concerns, however all the user did was remove the quotes so it was no longer inserting the commentary into quoted text (however, removing the quotes is an issue in itself due to copyvio/plagiarism concerns, which is another issue entirely). Needless to say, the last diff still is inserting the same basic text.Andrew c [talk] 14:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- IP blocked for 24 hours, Andrew C warned. Ryan Postlethwaite 15:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Digwuren reported by User:Anonimu (Result:2 wks)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Denial of Soviet occupation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Digwuren (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 19:48, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 13:59, 25 September 2007
- 1st revert: 20:32, 25 September 2007
- 2nd revert: 21:19, 25 September 2007
- 3rd revert: 21:54, 25 September 2007
- 4th revert: 22:21, 25 September 2007
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
- User blocked for 3RR before, so he was aware of it.
Looks like User:Digwuren thinks he owns the article. He rejected any tag, and added references that don't cover the text they supposedly reference. I tried to put a version supported by sources (one of them being supported by Digwuren's proposed DYK) and to ask for further references to support Digwuren's claim, but I was reverted every time.Anonimu 19:48, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, clearly edit warring after repeated blocks. Blocked for two weeks. As Digwuren is involved in an Arbcom case, there may need to be some arrangement for him to be unblocked for participation in this. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 20:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm, weird. There are two reverts on two different edits. First is clear antivandalism as somebody is removing sources inappropriately. And adding CN's. Even though they are not actually not even needed there. I don't know about the second topic. I don't think it was good idea to block. But what do I know, I guess 2RR goes against vandalism aswell. I would personally have requested page protection myself, as some editors just have grudge about the editor and wanted to remove the GA status from the article by using random tagging and starting editwar. It's sad to see that Digwuren fell a victim of the provocations. Suva Чего? 20:48, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- I don't see any vandal reverts here. Also, even with fewer than four reverts, I'd have probably blocked since the user should know by now not to edit war after the many blocks he's received. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 21:00, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- It's true that the first one is a bit questionable: while he removes the OR tag added by Irpen, he does also add a citation, so perhaps it's not best to count it as a revert. But this does not change the fact that he is edit warring. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 21:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- So was Anonimu (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). His latest contributions to other related articles follow the same pattern. Also check his block log. That is the problem with those editors. They like plain template tagging to discredit articles (in this time to successfully remove the GA status) instead of trying to find consensus or actually add sources themself. Other article was editprotected until consensus is found. I think this kind of approach would have been better in this case aswell instead of doubtable one sided block. But as said before I am not the one to decide. Suva Чего? 21:26, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- It's true that the first one is a bit questionable: while he removes the OR tag added by Irpen, he does also add a citation, so perhaps it's not best to count it as a revert. But this does not change the fact that he is edit warring. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 21:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- I don't see any vandal reverts here. Also, even with fewer than four reverts, I'd have probably blocked since the user should know by now not to edit war after the many blocks he's received. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 21:00, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm, weird. There are two reverts on two different edits. First is clear antivandalism as somebody is removing sources inappropriately. And adding CN's. Even though they are not actually not even needed there. I don't know about the second topic. I don't think it was good idea to block. But what do I know, I guess 2RR goes against vandalism aswell. I would personally have requested page protection myself, as some editors just have grudge about the editor and wanted to remove the GA status from the article by using random tagging and starting editwar. It's sad to see that Digwuren fell a victim of the provocations. Suva Чего? 20:48, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Digwuren's reverts (times in GMT)
- removal of recently added OR tag at 06:39, September 25, 2007
- same again at 10:59
- same again 17:32
- Same again 18:19
- Same again 18:54 with abusive vandalism summary
- Same again 19:51 again with abusive vandalism summary
OR tags were explained at talk and added by three different editors but Digwuren just ran a sterile revert war. It is 6RR not even a 3RR. --Irpen 21:38, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Oh damn, I forgot that there are tagteams. Ah, my bad. Sorry to bother. Suva Чего? 21:40, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- The two first diffs are by Dihydrogen Monoxide, not me. What next -- sockpupped accusations and an RFCU based on sharing the two first letters of nick? ΔιγυρενΕμπροσ! 07:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
User:74.77.222.188 reported by User:callmebc (Result: 24 hours to both)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Talk:Killian_documents. 74.77.222.188 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 21:30, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: VersionTime
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.
- Diff of 3RR warning: 20:32
A short explanation of the incident. Callmebc 21:30, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, I guess it depends on your viewpoint -- I'm either: 1) engaged in an edit war with a few anonymous IP addresses, possibly a sockpuppet or two, most especially a hothead at 74.77.222.18 who doesn't seem to think WP:BLP, WP:NPA WP:TPG and WP:CIV (for starters) have any bearing on Talk page "discussions"; 2) dealing with right wing vandals who don't want any updates made to certain articles near and dear to them; or 3) just having a lively Wiki discussion. Perhaps if I indicate what 74.77.222.18 keeps reverting, that might help: [42].
- I looked into it, and both of you violated 3RR. For the record, the page was moved as an archival attempt by Gamaliel. Callmebc reverted 1 2 3 4 times. 24 hours each. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 22:23, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
User:17.221.13.236 reported by User:WikiDon (Result: Already blocked for vandalism)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Libby, Montana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 17.221.13.236 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 21:30, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- 21:43, 25 September 2007 17.221.13.236
- 21:50, 25 September 2007 17.221.13.236
- 21:55, 25 September 2007 17.221.13.236
- 21:58, 25 September 2007 17.221.13.236
- 22:02, 25 September 2007 17.221.13.236
REF: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Libby%2C_Montana&action=history
Help! WikiDon 22:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Already blocked for 24 hours for vandalism. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 22:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
User:JerryGraf reported by User:Rogue Gremlin (Result: User Warned)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Hugh Hefner (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). JerryGraf (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 21:04, 25 September 2007 (UTC) JerryGraf did 4 reverts in a 24 hour period [43], after adding what is ment to be a negative statement about the biography of a living person, after i removed it he keeps reverting it back. Not to mention the comment should actually be on a different page as well. I did 3 in the 24 hour period. But he just did his 4th. And apparently has no plans on stoppingRogue Gremlin 21:04, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Fixed malformed Request. will look into it. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 22:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- He barely skirted 24 hour range. As he has no warnings about 3RR yet, I've warned him. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 22:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Louie33 reported by User:Myanw (Result: Indef)
- Three-revert rule violation on
USS Liberty incident (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Louie33 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 22:08, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: [44]
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.
- Diff of 3RR warning: 21:53
Looks like User:Louie33 thinks he is the world expert regarding that matter [45] so he feels free to add POV, and to remove sourced statements. - Myanw 22:13, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
You didn't exactly follow the template, but it could've been worse. 24 hours to Louie33, clear cut violation. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 22:36, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Changed to indef due to editor's declaration of wanting to own the article - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 22:45, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Bob A reported by User:Skomorokh Result 24 hours
5 reverts in a 24 hour period on September 25th against longstanding consensus (user tried to remove all references to anarcho-capitalism from the Anarchism in the United States article). Check it out: 1st reversion 2nd reversion 3rd reversion 4th reversion 5th reversion Skomorokh incite 22:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Another malformed report, but this one is clear cut too. 24 hours. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 22:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
User:70.18.5.219 (Talk) reported by Modernist 01:04, 26 September 2007 (Result: Article Semi-protected)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Frida Kahlo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 70.18.5.219 (Talk) (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 01:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: VersionTime
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
- Diff of 3RR warning:[50]
I repeatedly asked this editor to discuss the issue in dispute on the talk page of the article at Talk:Frida Kahlo as did an administrator FisherQueen who issued a WP:3RR warning. After the warning he reverted again, leaving insulting messages in his edit summaries and finally a very insulting message on the talk page. [51] Modernist 01:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- I semi-protected article so a discussion can be generated. For the record, I don't think his edit comments or talk page comments are that bad. Couple with the fact that IP's been stale, I reasoned it's not worth blocking 24 hours. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 04:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Eusebeus reported by User:Alansohn (Result: Page protected)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Chris Conley (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Eusebeus (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 04:38, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- 1st revert: [52]
- 2nd revert: [53] - note edit summary includes threat of "edit war"
- 3rd revert: [54]
- 4th revert: [55]
Despite clear consensus to the contrary, User:Eusebeus seems to be convinced that the Chris Conley does not meet standards of notability, despite the inclusion of multiple, reliable and verifiable sources. Suggestions to take this article to AfD have been ignored. This is the 14th time that User:Eusebeus has blanked the article into a redirect, undoing the work of at least 11 different Wikipedia editors who clearly believe that individual notability has been established. Alansohn 04:38, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Bull. Consult the talk page of the article in question. A slew of SP accounts have reverted, raising serious COI concerns. Eusebeus 04:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Page protected. I don't see SP involved in revert war, so take it to talk page. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 04:49, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Barring any further violations on this article by this user, I have no interest in seeing any of the required sanctions being applied to Eusebeus. However, the article needs to be restored to its status quo ante prior to Eusebeus' 4th revert here so that the article can be further improved and expanded, and so that any of the specific content issues he might raise on the talk page can be addressed. Alansohn 05:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- You mean that the wrong version got protected, of course. Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:45, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for correcting my terminology. Alansohn 06:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- You mean that the wrong version got protected, of course. Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:45, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Barring any further violations on this article by this user, I have no interest in seeing any of the required sanctions being applied to Eusebeus. However, the article needs to be restored to its status quo ante prior to Eusebeus' 4th revert here so that the article can be further improved and expanded, and so that any of the specific content issues he might raise on the talk page can be addressed. Alansohn 05:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Page protected. I don't see SP involved in revert war, so take it to talk page. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 04:49, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Loansince reported by User:Nightscream (Result:Indefinitely blocked)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Coral Smith (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Loansince (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 09:20, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: VersionTime
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.
- Diff of 3RR warning: DIFFTIME
I edited the Coral Smith to remove the unsourced/POV stuff, improve the grammar, etc. Loansince reverted it, remarking in his Edit Summaries, "reverted unsourced info back to sourced information". (I added no unsourced info to the article.) When I tried to open a dialogue on his Talk Page, his only response was to blank his Talk Page, revert again, and remark in his Edit Summary, "find sources / this has been sourced". When I again tried to explain to him how things were done on WP, he reverted again with the Summary: "Nightscreem stop reverting. You find sources". When I tried again to speak with him, and repeatedly warned that he could be blocked for this behavior, he placed the following message on my Talk Page: "I'm writing this message here because it seems you have had a serious talking to by more users than just my self (up above) about adding unsourced contributions to wikipedia. The Coral Smith info you are adding into the article is unsourced and I have told you that repeatedly. Until you get sources for that info, stop adding it in and being so irritating." For the record, I have have been given no admonishments about unsourced info, nor has he told me this "repeatedly", nor have I been "irritating", or anything other than polite to him. Reading his Talk Page (or its history) will not only verify this, but will show other instances of his deliberately ignoring WP rules and consensus. Nightscream 09:20, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- A clear break but as Loansince is a new user and was (so far as I can find) not specifically warned about the three revert rule, I have given him a warning and guidance rather than blocking. Will continue to monitor the situation. Sam Blacketer 15:50, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Jpgordon has now banned Loansince indefinitely as a sockpuppet of a banned user. Sam Blacketer 21:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
User:65.57.245.11 reported by User:Wgungfu (Result: 24 hours )
- Three-revert rule violation on
Battlezone (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 65.57.245.11 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 16:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- 1st revert: 10:14, 26 September 2007
- 2nd revert: 10:27, 26 September 2007
- 3rd revert: 10:33, 26 September 2007
- 4th revert: 10:57, 26 September 2007
- Diff of 3RR warning: 10:42, 26 September 2007
Editor was warned on 3RR violation. Editor keeps trying to remove and/or alter reference material of publicly known Californian collector Scott Evans who runs AtariGames.Com and owns the Bradley Fighting Vehicle simulator in question, and has public page about it. Editor's IP is an open proxy in Colorado with long history of problems. Would like an sprotect on the page as well possibly. --Marty Goldberg 16:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Please also see the topic recently started on Battlezone's talk page. --Marty Goldberg 16:56, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- 24 hours. Wgungfu - please be more careful about throwing the term vandalism around in edit summaries. This is a content dispute not vandalism. Indeed, perhaps the ip thinks there may be a BLP issue? The content you are defending is speculative as written and is perhaps inappropriate but that can be hashed out on the article talk page. I have not sprotected as there are constructive ip edits to this article. Spartaz Humbug! 18:40, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- No problem about the vandalism comment, I'll watch it. As far as speculative and BLP, I don't see how - Scott owns the machine in question and put up the page in the reference detailing his ownership and the machine. --Marty Goldberg 19:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I only looked at the deleted text and didn't follow the link. Spartaz Humbug! 19:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Brendan.lloyd reported by User:Merzbow (Result: 72 hours)
- Three-revert rule violation on
David Hicks (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Brendan.lloyd (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 17:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 2007-09-24T05:04:18
- 1st revert: 2007-09-25T04:36:22
- 2nd revert: 2007-09-25T18:38:44
- 3rd revert: 2007-09-25T22:04:44
- 4th revert: 2007-09-26T02:34:29
All edits remove "pled guilty" from the first paragraph. User is edit-warring against an edit he agreed to just a few days ago, after just coming back from a block for edit-warring. See this talk-page thread about the block. - Merzbow 17:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- 72 hours Spartaz Humbug! 18:46, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Thumperward reported by User:ViolentCrime (Result:reporter blocked as likely sock. Reportee warned. )
- Three-revert rule violation on
Richard Stallman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Thumperward (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 17:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 19:57, 24 September 2007
- 1st revert: 18:58, 25 September 2007
- 2nd revert: 06:55, 26 September 2007
- 3rd revert: 17:19, 26 September 2007 DIFFTIME
- 4th revert: 17:26, 26 September 2007
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.
- Diff of 3RR warning: 17:24, 26 September 2007
There was also a fifth revert, of the exact section, at 17:15, 25 September 2007 : [60] I warned Themperward that he is gaming 3RR by making his 4th revert at 24hours + 4 minutes, and he responsed with a dismissive comment. ViolentCrime 17:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- considering report Spartaz Humbug! 19:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- OK, I think that violentcrime is a sockpuppet and have blocked them indefinitely. I have (will) warn Thumperward about the 3RR. Spartaz Humbug! 19:07, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Wikimachine reported by User:Komdori (Result:48 hour block )
- Three-revert rule violation on
Yoon Bong-Gil (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Wikimachine (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 23:30, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 21:22, September 21, 2007
- 1st revert: 21:47, September 25, 2007
- 2nd revert: 03:53, September 26, 2007
- 3rd revert: 04:07, September 26, 2007
- 4th revert: 21:35, September 26, 2007
Also violated (intentional gaming, three minutes outside 24h) on An Jung-geun.
- Previous version: 19:45, 23 September 2007
- 1st revert: 21:30, September 25, 2007
- 2nd revert: 03:53, September 26, 2007
- 3rd revert: 04:07, September 26, 2007
- 4th revert: 21:33, September 26, 2007 - blind revert, removing changes of unrelated editors
User since 2005, clearly aware of 3RR, gaming the 3RR system while warning others [61]. Continuous removal of category he disputes on these two articles. Other editor tried to reinsert, but eventually gave up [62] when Wikimachine made it clear [63] he was declaring an all out revert war and not interested in discussion. Wikimachine was blocked recently for 48 hours for blatant refusal to cooperate or discuss edits. He has a pattern of planning revert wars, trying to game the system recently saying, [64] "When our 24 hrs limit is up, we can revert...back."
User:SqueakBox reported by User: 82.45.15.121 (Result:48 hours)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Pro-pedophile Activism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). SqueakBox (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 02:12, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: Multiple.
- 1st revert: 21:39 (26th)
- 2nd revert: 22:09 (26th)
- 3rd revert: 23:32 (26th)
- 4th revert: 23:58 (26th)
- 5th revert: 00:06 (27th)
Edit war. Block log reveals a history of similar behaviour. 82.45.15.121 02:12, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Two separate bursts of reverts, but one part is common to both. User has previously been blocked for revert warring on similar articles. He was active on the talk page but some of the changes were relatively minor which makes it worse in my view. I have blocked Squeakbox for 48 hours. Sam Blacketer 10:28, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Sunray reported by User:GreenJoe (Result:Warned)
- Three-revert rule violation on
User talk:GreenJoe. Sunray (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 02:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: [65]
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.
He keeps harassing me by reverting my talk page. I'm frustrated now by his behaviour. GreenJoe 02:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Please clarify on how his behavior is different from yours: [72] [73]. Additionally, it appears that you may have baited him with some of your edit summaries, such as [74] and [75]. —C.Fred (talk) 03:04, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not saying that it is, but I did stop, he kept going, even after I asked him to stop. I didn't bait him, the first summary was the same one he used as well, if you look at his own talk page history. GreenJoe 03:22, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) He has gone ahead and stopped, and agreed to stop. I don't see where there's anything ongoing to be prevented by a block. —C.Fred (talk) 03:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- I don't see that as an agreement to stop. He simply gave in, but he'd do it again. GreenJoe 03:30, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) He has gone ahead and stopped, and agreed to stop. I don't see where there's anything ongoing to be prevented by a block. —C.Fred (talk) 03:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- The first example you gave is directly from here. GreenJoe 03:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not saying that it is, but I did stop, he kept going, even after I asked him to stop. I didn't bait him, the first summary was the same one he used as well, if you look at his own talk page history. GreenJoe 03:22, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- If I may make an observation, I believe that much of this conflict would have been avoided had it not been for the abuse and misuse of various tags. Case in point, GreenJoe applied the edit war warning he cited above, despite the fact that Sunray had only reverted the removal of the Fraternities and Sororities section once - and had in fact made no edits at all in the preceeding 41 hours. One minute after placing the warning, GreenJoe deleted the section. Clearly, the warning did not apply. Sunray removed the warning from his talk page and restored the Fraternities and Sororities section. At this point, GreenJoe not only returned the edit war warning, but added a 3RR warning and a welcome/bad practices warning. Why this was done is a bit of a mystery. After all, as he had only just made his first revert in over 41 hours, Sunray was in no danger of violating 3RR. (I won't bother drawing a conclusion as to why one would place a welcome/bad practices warning on the talk page of someone who has been contributong to Wikipedia since 2003.) While I could go on (and will, if anyone believes it necessary), I think I have made my point. Now, in the interest of openness, I should add that within minutes of my first and only edit to the section, I too received an edit war warning from GreenJoe. In this respect, my experience is not dissimilar from that of NeilN. Victoriagirl 07:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Users editing content in their own user space is a specific exception from the three revert rule. Removing warnings is controversial and not to be undertaken lightly, and edit warring about them is disruptive and somewhat pointless. However, as Sunray seems to have accepted that he will walk away from the dispute and not revert, I have given him a warning. Sam Blacketer 10:51, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
User:SEWilco reported by User:callmebc (Result:No violation)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Killian documents authenticity issues (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). SEWilco (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 05:43, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: VersionTime
- 1st revert: 23:48, 23 September 2007
- 2nd revert: 17:58, 25 September 2007
- 3rd revert: 05:53, 26 September 2007
- 4th revert: 03:09, 27 September 2007
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.
- Diff of 3RR warning: 01:13, 27 September 2007
Note that there was another revert by a short lived IP address: 14:10, 24 September 2007
A short explanation of the incident. Callmebc 05:43, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, but this so convoluted that I don't know if I can make it that short...but: User:SEWilco had added a new sub-section called "Mother's Day" [76] involving an anecdote by an old friend of Bush, William Campenni, that appeared in some unknown form (there is no easy way to access the article -- the link SEWilco keeps using is broken) in the Washington Times, a conservative (well, actually right wing) newspaper a couple of years ago. Basically Campenni claims that one of the Killian memos in which Killian is ordering Bush to report to a physical has to be forged because, to quote Campenni, For the weekend that 1st Lt. Bush was supposedly ordered to report for his physical, May 13-14, 1972, the Ellington Air Guard Base was closed.. The problem is that the memo in question doesn't say that. It's dated May 4th and the exact quote is: "You are ordered to report to commander, 111 F.L.S, Ellington AFB, not later than (NLT) 14 May, 1972 to conduct annual physical examination." Also Campenni's claim that the base would be shut down that entire weekend, because of Mother's Day, appears to be unsupported by any other source.
So while Campenni claims that Bush was ordered to report on the weekend of the 13-14, the memo clearly says by the 14th, which was Bush's last day on base (according DoD records). A not so slight difference. But then SEWilco posts the assertion by referencing the Washington Times piece but actually using the wording from the memo -- which is fabrication, I do believe. SEWilco also adds that even if the memo was dated May 4th (a Thursday that year), it would not reach Bush by mail before the weekend -- which is not only wild speculation but is utterly nonsensical: bases have their own mail room, so the memo would just be put into Bush's mail box. Lastly SEWilco also adds that the address on the memo is wrong without providing a reference for that, and some Google searching indicates that the address is correct -- it's Bush's parents, and it shows up also in official records. See the talk discussion here [77].
I keep pointing these things out and removing the add, but SEWilco simply says that it's "verifiable" and then puts it back. So...
- This may be a slow-burning revert war but one revert a day is really not close enough to 'gaming the system' on four reverts in a 24-hour period. This is no violation. The subject of the dispute isn't relevant here (don't continue the dispute on this page) but I advise you to check the source supplied and compare it with the paragraph as written so that you can come to a compromise. Sam Blacketer 10:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I had been blocked over another 3RR revert issue with another Killian wiki troublemaker, so I'm leery of reverting things too many times in a short period. If you check the Talk page thread, it's pretty clear that things have become circular -- the only available sources even dicussing the Washington Times piece only quote sections of it, but those sections don't match up with what SEWilco is claiming. It looks like pretty cut and dry fabrication to me. I'll revert, but he'll just put it back with the same "verifiable" recant wth the same broken link, despite my asking him over and over to supply that "verifable" evidence. The is nothing to compromise about, since he's just maliciously inserting some stuff that has no backing whatsoever and is making no attempt to be reasonable via Wiki guidlines to . So I guess I'll end up here again shortly.... -BC aka Callmebc 14:48, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Krsont reported by User:Shutterbug (Result:24 hours each, see below)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Template:ScientologySeries (edit | [[Talk:Template:ScientologySeries|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Template:Template:Scientologyfooter (edit | [[Talk:Template:Template:Scientologyfooter|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Time reported: 04:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- 4th revert: 04:28, 27 September 2007
- 3rd revert: 04:25, 27 September 2007
- 2nd revert: 03:56, 27 September 2007
- 1st revert: 04:21, 24 September 2007
This is the second time this users 3RRs on the same article, ignoring missing consent and missing coverage by WP:V and WP:RS for his robotic changes. The first time he was blocked accordingly (Diff here
Per 3RR rule the continuous revert does not need to be only within 24 hrs. Shutterbug 04:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Shutterbug 04:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Oh the humanity. Both Krsont and Shutterbug have three reverts in a short space of time, after previous warnings for revert warring. I might have blocked for gaming the system anyway but as all scientology articles are on article probation I have blocked them both for 24 hours under its provisions. Sam Blacketer 11:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Joaquín Martínez reported by User:McGeddon (Result: )
- Three-revert rule violation on
Conservapedia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Joaquín Martínez (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 12:33, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 09:47, 27 September 2007
- 1st revert: 10:43, 27 September 2007
- 2nd revert: 10:54, 27 September 2007
- 3rd revert: 12:20, 27 September 2007
- 4th revert: 12:27, 27 September 2007
- Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.
Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.
- Diff of 3RR warning: 10:58, 27 September 2007
User is pushing POV statements in the article - after being warned, his response was "go and use 3rr, it is an indication of liberal style to try and lock others out of debate". McGeddon 12:33, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Matthead reported by User:Piotrus (Result: 48 hours)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Kraków (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Matthead (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 13:19, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 00:37, September 23, 2007
- 1st revert: 00:17, September 27, 2007
- 2nd revert: 00:52, September 27, 2007
- 3rd revert: 08:38, September 27, 2007
- 4th revert: 08:51, September 27, 2007
- 5th revert: 08:59, September 27, 2007
- 6th revert: 09:04, September 27, 2007
Matthead, a veteran of 2 3rr blocks, has now engaged in edit warring over a GA-candidate Kraków, pushing - against consensus - his version of the name as well as section headings (among other things). I hope that such a 6rr violation will merit some form of an escalation block - we even cannot work on the articles to meet GA reviewer concerns to due his revert edit conflicts. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 13:19, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- I knew this would be coming. Please read Talk:Kraków. -- Matthead discuß! O 13:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Matthead has been blocked for 48 hours, as this is not his first offense. He saw this report, knew the jig was up, and 6RR is not acceptable no matter how right one believes they are. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 13:42, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
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