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Piece Names

The naming has gotten a little messed up. E.g., should we talk about

  • a fers (the original name for the piece, though I have seen it "firz"),
  • a vizier (what it meant to the Arabs),
  • a general (the english equivalent of vizier),
  • or a queen (the modern english chess term)?

I'm inclined to go with "queen" because it will be familiar to a reader, and it addresses the historical connection between the modern chess queen and the corresponding piece from Shatranj.

Elephant is problematic because the piece name appears to have lost its meaning when it left India. I'd be more comfortable calling it a bishop or a "fil".

Jake 01:11, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I would suggest to stick to the naming as found in "Piececlopedia" on chessvariants.com. They use name "Alfil" for bishop predecessor and "Ferz" for queen predecessor. The same names are found in "Fairy chess piece" Wikipedia article. Andreas Kaufmann 10:22, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
As nobody objected I will change the terminology to use words "Alfil" and "Ferz". This is by the way names of these pieces as they are mostly used today by fairy piece problemists. Andreas Kaufmann 21:48, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Ah, much better. Nice edits. Jake 02:06, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)