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October 1

workscited for wiki!

info to create a works cited for my project please. 76.30.166.146 01:46, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Try EasyBib.com. In the future, though, please do your own homework. GlassCobra 01:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Or more detailed instructions here, or a quicker too here. Note that students are generally discouraged from using just about any encyclopedia for research work, Wikipedia being in no way an exception. --Ybbor^Talk 01:51, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

undoing a redirect

I've made pages for the following Australian casino games: "Treasury 21", "Jupiters 21", "Paradise Pontoon", and "Federal Pontoon". Since they are all varieties of the game "Pontoon", I redirected each of them to "Pontoon". However, they each have slightly different rules, so I want to make a short page for each of them. How do I undo the redirect so I can create an actual, distinct page for each of them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iezegrim (talk • contribs) 02:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

What you should do is go to the articles, and when it redirects, under the title, it'll say "Redirected from "page"". Click on the link, and it should have an arrow pointing to the redirect link. You can then edit the page and remove the redirect and add whatever you want. Neranei (talk) 02:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Alternately, you can note the different rules as subheadings/sections on the Pontoon page, and then put the redirect to those sections. — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 04:02, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

New Page

Hi, i wanted to start a page, as i noticed it was not yet on wikipedia. Could you advise me on how to start a page?

Thank you,

Adam Ryder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamryder (talk • contribs) 02:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. GlassCobra 02:38, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Advice

I noticed that it was hard to find information on introductory physics (high-school level). I'm willing to work on pages but I'm not quite sure how to organize it since I'm lacking Wikipedia policy knowledge. Here are some topics that I would be interested in writing about:

• Motion graphs
  • Distance-time graph
  • Position-time graph
  • Speed-time graph
  • Velocity-time graph

I'm not sure how to organize these. I was thinking of maybe creating a Motion Graphs (introduction) page because the normal one is too technical. Would that be acceptable?

Additionally, what page categories would be applicable.

Any suggestions?

Sorry if this isn't the right place to discuss this. Billy 03:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

The Help desk is usually a good place to start. I suggest reading Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics to get a solid idea of what's already here, or what the physics-minded contributors are already working on. And see Help:Search and WP:EIW#Search to be sure you won't be duplicating any existing content. Previously on the Help desk there was some discussion of the similar case of General relativity (technical) and Introduction to general relativity (not so technical). You might want to check the histories and talk pages of those articles to see what led up to them, and whether this is part of a trend that needs expanding. --Teratornis 04:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I looked at Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics and it looks like one of our better WikiProjects, with lots of participants who know what they are doing. Almost certainly you should join that project and coordinate your efforts with them. You could copy your question to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics and ask for advice. But first, I suggest searching the archived talk pages, which you can do with this handy Google search. Before asking a question it's good to search for previous discussions of it. For example, here is a search of the project talk archive for "introductory physics", which finds, among other things, a Category:Introductory physics. --Teratornis 05:06, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Question

Is the user Animum an admin? He/She claimed that was the case on my user page here, then deleted it. I'm just curious. futurebird 04:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Evidently so. --Teratornis 04:43, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the fast response. futurebird 04:47, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I just happened to randomly check in and there was a question I knew how to answer. Of course I worry about answering the bottom question in the list because that's like asking to get an edit conflict. Hopefully mw:Liquid threads will be everything I want it to be and we won't have to worry about edit conflicts on talk pages (or pseudo talk pages like the Help desk) someday. --Teratornis 05:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Coding help needed please

Please take a look at the top-most entries in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2007 October 1. I just added an AfD for Jewel Eich and below it there's an entry for Terms for gay in different languages -- and for the life of me, I can't figure out what the problem is with the coding of that one, it's just not coming out properly. Assistance would be greatly appreciated. Accounting4Taste 05:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Problem solved quickly and easily thanks to Flyguy649, thanks very much. Accounting4Taste 05:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

distance

how to locate the distance between united states cities —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.129.230.13 (talk) 06:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, this page is for questions on how to use and contribute to Wikipedia, for factual questions see the Reference Desk. You could try this or this though. — PhilHibbs | talk 10:05, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Edit went missing

I added the title to this question. — PhilHibbs | talk 10:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I am quite enraged at this moment, I spent the better part of 4 hours writing an accurate synopsis for a television show that currently has nothing more then a very poor summary, all this only to have my work vanish!...I am extremely upset by this and would like for someone to contact me asap!,it would have been so easy to have a simple "submit" box near the story box but instead I had to try various areas to attempt my submission, this of course led to the loss of the afore mentioned article. I wonder if this has happened to others...I really cannot begin to explain how angry I am over this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.37.96 (talk) 06:31, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

You save an edit to an article by clicking "Save page" below the edit box, like you must have done to make this post. Sometimes an attempt to save causes an error. I have tried this and know it's frustrating. If you have written a lot then I recommend copying it to another place, for example a text editor, before saving. Then you can copy back to a new edit window if something went wrong. The browser's back button will often forget text you have written in a box. If you want to look at other pages before saving then open a new browser window. By the way, beware of WP:PLOT. Some long plot summaries are deleted or shortened. PrimeHunter 11:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I have found that clicking the "Show preview" button frequently while I edit seems to increase the chance that the "back" button in my Web browser can return me to an edit window containing my text, but of course this is not reliable enough to depend on. (I use Mozilla Firefox.) To 71.234.37.96, I understand your frustration, because I have lost various chunks of work over the 20+ years I have been getting screwed by using computers. Wikipedia is an especially unreliable editor, because Wikipedia uses what is called the "thin client" model. That is, the currently available Web browsers make for very low-powered text editors, lacking safety features such as autosave you may have come to expect from desktop applications. To protect yourself, consider using an external editor as PrimeHunter recommends. Another option is to edit in smaller increments and click the "Save" button more often (as a side benefit, doing so also decreases your chance of getting an edit conflict). In general, the first time you use any new application software, it's best to start with small tasks to get a feel for how the application works, before attempting anything larger. --Teratornis 15:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Indian Statistical Institute, New Delhi

I wish to know the address of institutes in Delhi that teaches short term courses in Statistics. I beleive there is one in Katwariasarai.

Shall appreciate if I could get their website.

Thanks

Sampat Kumar SivansampatSampat Kumar Sivan 09:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, this page is for questions on how to use and contribute to Wikipedia, for factual questions see the Reference Desk. — PhilHibbs | talk 09:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

savetheworldfree.ning.com

I am trying to do 3 things 1 is to close my wiki account but don't know how! Perhaps only admins can close it but how do make a request? I am also promoting the website SavetheWorldfree.ning.com a not for profit site established in 2003 I will open a new account as someone not associated with the website so I can insure it gets a mention in Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iradminru (talk • contribs) 10:33, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I just looked at the page of this savethewordfee.org Be assured, as soon as an article about this not notable organization appears, others have to be very fast to beat me in proposing it's deletion. An editor, who tells us, that he wants to write an article although he has a close relationship to the object of the article, will perhaps violate the rules of Wikipedia, if he writes such an article and there is a high chance of deletion, because many will watch. Nevertheless, such an editor is doing an honorable act. What you want to do is just dishonorable.--Thw1309 11:36, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Accounts cannot be deleted. See m:Right to vanish. Also see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. PrimeHunter 12:03, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Iradminru and saveNaturefree is not associated with savetheworldfree.org

savetheworldfree.ning.com

I am not at all a dishonorable man, that is why I want to do the things mentioned. However It seems to be difficult if not impossible to convince skeptics that saveNaturefree (over 620 members) in 50 countries, is a remarkable endeavor. what I wanted to achieve is a wiki page on the subject of the web site SavetheWorldfree.ning.com a wiki item will eventuate sooner or later. I just have to be humble enough to cop the skepticism, correspond with an editor who is interested in the conservation of nature and the incredible, priceless, natural environment the worlds humans depend on.

problem creating an account

I have started creating an account under the user name 'srutherford'.

I entered a password + the security question, and provided an email address. However the first password was rejected. After several attempts I may have had a second password accepted, but wasn't sure.

I then used the 'email new password' to try to fix this, but nothing has arrived in my email (this is 16 hrs later).

Please can you fix or contact me directly. steve_rutherford _at_ btinternet [dot] com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.250.75.170 (talk) 12:42, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Have you ever had an email from wiki@wikimedia.org? This should have arrived to confirm your email address. If you haven't, it's likely you typoed on your email originally; unfortunately, there's then no way to regain control of the account, or even to find out what email you entered, unless you can remember the original password. (You can't use a password that's the same as your username, or a blank password, but otherwise the password ought to have been accepted; can you remember any error messages you may have seen while signing up?) --ais523 14:52, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, if the account has no edits (as is the case with this account), it may be possible to usurp it. — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 04:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

human race

What reasons would you give a new born baby for wanting to reserve its place? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.144.195.105 (talk) 13:07, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Presumably we are to treat this as a thought question and ignore the seemingly impossible precocity a newborn baby would need to have any concept of "its place." Playing along with the outlandish premise, I would recount the reasons Richard Dawkins explained in The Selfish Gene. However, if you do a bad job of that, your teacher will probably give you a low mark on this homework problem. --Teratornis 15:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

davinci code

is christ was a man? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nagtatanung (talk • contribs) 14:20, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Would you base your belief on my answer? If so, you might want to brush up on Critical thinking. The Jesus article summarizes the opinions of various people on the subject. The Da Vinci Code is a work of popular fiction, milking the same plot devices as Raiders of the Lost Ark, National Treasure (film), etc.; then again, some people say the same about the Bible, while other people would like to kill people who say things like that. --Teratornis 15:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

make a correction to an article?

Good Morning

I was reading an article on Senator Jim Webb, which was really good. I did see an error, though. The article states, " Webb is a retired Marine Corps infantry officer until 1972," Military personnel do not typically retire after 4 years of service....20 years is the norm. There are extenuating circumstances, i.e. a medical condition that arises after entry to military service, but those are rare, and would have been noted. Senator Webb is a former Marine Corps infantry officer who served with distinction and valor and should be recognized accordingly. If you have any questions, I will be happy to help.

Debbie Key —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.146.90.88 (talk) 14:51, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Leebo ^T/C 17:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

adding a stub to KY pages?

I would like to contribute to the jenny wiley page and feel a stub on the Ky page would also be applicable

Harmans Station

Was considered by most early historians notable: Virgil Lewis and William Esley Connelley as possibly being the first log cabin ever built circa 1750; in the State of Kentucky it was initially a "blockhouse" Hunting Lodge that eventually became a settlement.

William Connelly quoted:

"The founding of Harman's Station on the Louisa River was directly caused by a tragedy as dark and horrible as any ever perpetrated by the savages upon the exposed and dangerous frontier of Virginia. The destruction of the home of Thomas Wiley in the valley of Walker's Creek, the murder of his children, the captivity of his wife by savages and her miraculous escape were the first incidents in a series of events in the history of Kentucky which properly belong to the annals of the Big Sandy Valley." --Beachbumz 15:11, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Then be bold and create the article! :)  — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 04:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Linking two pages

How do I link a new page to an existing page that has the same name but bears the prefix "The' before the name of the organization?Heather Chait —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 16:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Article names should not include the word "The". See WP:NAME. Lara❤Love 16:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Presumably this issue would be resolved if someone moved The Center for Cultural Judaism to Center for Cultural Judaism, (which would automatically create a page-redirect from the first of those to the second). Heather, would that deal with your question? If yes, one of us could do it for you - although looking at your edit history, I assume you have a move tab on your own screen: am I right? AndyJones 19:05, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Jimbo quote

Does anyone know where Jimbo's quote about Wikipedia having limitless bandwidth is? Lara❤Love 18:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Beats me, but this Google search finds some interesting stuff. Such as: For most ISPs, "unlimited" doesn't actually mean *unlimited*. It means you are expected to use the typical amount of bandwidth, and if you exceed the allocated amount, you're metered and: Wikipedia has a single employee and, according to founder Jimmy Wales, pays about $5,000 a month in bandwidth costs for roughly 1.6 billion page views per month. So, taking a wild guess here, maybe the quote you heard (which I have no idea of) refers to Wikipedia's ability to purchase all the bandwidth it needs (for now). --Teratornis 18:52, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Where is my article?

My article "AM Only" was deleted. I was told to do a version of the article in an area where it couldn't be deleted (not a "sandbox", but something similar), and once I found enough material to add, I could put that additional material in the real article. But I don't know where my article (the new one I created in what is not a "sandbox") is. I do know that the article (the one actually appearing on Wikipedia) has been revised and apparently accepted, and my name is in the history, even though nothing I did is there. Where is my article so I can re-add a portion of my contributions? Vchimpanzee 18:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

See WP:WWMPD. A relevant excerpt: If you did not save such a copy, you will have to ask an administrator to retrieve a copy for you. --Teratornis 18:42, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Someone moved AM Only to America's Best Music. It wasn't deleted. Also, your user subpage, User:Vchimpanzee/Draft articles‎, still contains the draft you wrote about AM Only if you want it for reference. Leebo ^T/C 18:46, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

It was deleted, because it was replaced with a Redirect to Westwood One. I'm going to try to restore as many contributions as I can. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vchimpanzee (talk • contribs) 20:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps the terminology is the problem here. It was not "deleted" in the sense that it went through one of the recognized deletion processes. Yes, someone redirected the page, but your edits are still in the history. Leebo ^T/C 20:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dragon

There are two reliable books on The Order of the Dragon: Y. Stoyanov (2000) The Other God: Dualist Religions from Antiquities to the Cathar Heresey. New Haven: Yale University Press; and C.D. Clements (2006)The Order of the Dragon: The Battle Between The 'Other History' And The Accepted History. NY: Dragovitse Press/Booksurge (available on Amazon.com and Borders.com). The Order was reconstituted by King Sisismund of Hungary in 1408, but existed far before that or the group that Obilic formed to assassinate Sultan Murad and protect Bosnia from the Ottomans. In its reconstituted form, it was not a Catholic or Orthodox religious order. Rather, it was what one of its members, Count Hrovje Vukcic declared it: "a pagan rite." The Count was a heretical Patarene/Pagan himself, and would have known. It was also likely associated with the Bosnian Ecclesiae (Churches) that were viewed as a "Great Heresy" by both Catholic and Orthodox Christians, and that was a development of the Two Principles ancient Eurasian religion that Stoyanov describes and that Clements also traces. The mother church was not the Patarene Ecclesia Sclavonica, but the Ecclesia Drugunthiae (Church of the Dragon). To the contention in the Wikipedia article that this Order was Christian and dedicated to saving the Cross is in error. In fact, along with the Cathars, the Bogomils, Patarenes, Paulicians and others of this "Great Heterodoxy" (Clements) despised the symbol of the cross as crucifixion -- although their sun signs could take such a Maltese Cross form.

The Count, in fact, left Sigismund's Court and defeated the King in battle. The result was reestablishment of the Bosnian Church as the official (and pagan) church of Bosnia.

Another arm of the Dragon Military order was most probably the "Lizard" League of Culm, in what is now Poland. Another pagan area, its language translates 'lizard' as 'dragon,' so it is more accurate to call this the Dragon League. It fought with the Teutonic Knights at the Battle of Tannenberg, and the next Grand Master of the Teutonic Knights accused it of leaving the field of battle and resulting in the defeat of the Knights. Since the Knights were fighting King Jagiello of Poland (who was Lithuanian and at heart likely a pagan) and Prince Vyatatus of Lithuania (who was certainly a pagan Lithuanian), the charge of leaving the battle is probably accurate. The Culm Lizard League is from an ancient culture that goes back to northern Eurasia and the Two Principles religion (Stoyanov and Clements). It is also likely associated with the Indus Rock carving of the Draco Constellation, the polar star in 10,500 BC. Finally, there is a castle keep near Prerov, Czech Republic, dating in the 300 ADs, and bearing the red and white marking of the Dragon Order (blood-red encircling white). So this military group is far older than the Wikipedia article suggests.

Also, the insignia pin is in a European museum, and the cover of Clements' book uses that pin.

I have not contacted Wikipedia before, and am unsure of the process. My lawyer son thinks there might be copyright infringement, but I am more interested in correcting the description of The Order of the Dragon and referencing my book and Stoyanov's masterly work.

Dr. Colleen D. Clements <personal information removed to prevent spamming>

Since Wikipedia is a wiki, you are free to make changes to the article if you have reliable sources to back up your information. Be bold in updating pages. You don't even have to log in. For more discussion on this specific issue, the talk page of the article, Talk:Order of the Dragon would be the appropriate forum. Leebo ^T/C 18:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Joe Francis Information

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Francis

I have been unable to edit Joe Francis' page. All of the information is acurate with sighting... no matter the size of the edit, the bot replaces the content each time. Some of the material up there is just alleged and though they link to articles online, that does not make them true whereas the content I would be replacing it with covers the events acurately with verified sourcing.

Please Help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by MadnessMaker.com (talk • contribs) 19:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

You haven't made any edits to the article with this account. A user name Neocaterpillar was edit warring with one of the vandalism-removal bots because he kept trying to add a long first-person narrative to the article. Is that what you're referring to? Leebo ^T/C 19:11, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Drop-down list

How does one create the drop-down lists such as the ones that are used in various category pages? Thanks.

Jotsko 21:14, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Can you link to an example? Leebo ^T/C 21:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, now I think I understand, you're talking about the minimized subcategories within a larger category. You can read all about how these categories are developed at Wikipedia:Categorization. If you're referring to just using the same technique outside of subcategories, I don't know of a way. Leebo ^T/C 21:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you asking about mw:Extension:CategoryTree? I see that extension appears now in Special:Version. --Teratornis 21:29, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is like the one's that are used in certain category views with the + symbol surrounded in brackets that allows a drop-down of subcategories to appear. I believe it may be called a "dynamic tree" because I'm not sure that I would be able to use the "category tree" outside of the category pages. I don't know what the encoding for this would be on a typical wikipedia page. [[1]].

Jotsko 04:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

mw:Extension:CategoryTree looks straightforward enough (and thanks for calling my attention to this interesting extension, which I must now go install on some corporate wikis I administer), although it could stand to have some more defining links on jargon terms such as parser functions. See: mw:Extension:CategoryTree#The_.7B.7B.23categorytree.7D.7D_parser_function (what an unfortunately-named section heading, from the standpoint of trying to link to it). For example, if you wanted to display Category:Cycling as a tree list, you could say: {{#categorytree:Cycling}}. To avoid gumming up the Help desk with a big example, I put that on your talk page. Also note, you can refer to mw:Extension:Tree view via an interwiki link (as I did just then) rather than as an external link as you did above (with an extra pair of square brackets that the MediaWiki parser ignored). Also note, just because you can display a category tree on any page does not necessarily mean you should. Where do you want to display a category tree? As inline category trees are a new feature, they may not be in the Manual of style yet. On articles you should follow the Manual of style; on your user page and user subpages you can use (almost) whatever style you want. If all this seems complicated, that's because everything absolutely is complicated here. --Teratornis 16:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

October 2

changing ip to username

Hi

I've made some edits but realise I was not signed in. Is it possible to assign my username to those edits I made that currently display only my IP.

Thanks!

Hello. No it is not possible for a simple reason: nobody can prove that you're the contributor which made this contributions. Sorry. Martial BACQUET 22:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Login problems

Hi, I created a new account for myself. The problem is whenever I try to, say, use the "Upload file" page (after I've already logged in), the site tells me I need to log in. I do that and then when I try the "Upload file" page (or any other page that would require the user to login), I'm again requested to log in. I cannot get past that. I have cookies allowed on my browser and I've used other websites that require the user to login without problems. Can you help?

Thanks!

67.142.130.21 01:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Try using the secure server to log in. You appear to be on a shared IP address whose proxy settings are causing you to immediately log out. Using the secure server should bypass that proxy. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Erasmus School of Primary Education

Today 2-10-07 I checked the page "Erasmus School of Primary Education" that I created many months ago and found a message: "It is proposed that this article be deleted because of the following concern:

   Does not appear to meet Wikipedia's notability criteria "

I don't really understand what is required to have it be notable. I did read the notability criteria article but it was not clear what I had to do.

What I have done is go through matching pages of other schools to see what may be the difference and the one thing that stood out was the References section. I have now added a References section to the page "Erasmus School of Primary Education".

Your assistance would be greatly appreciated

with love

Fernando 03:06, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, to be a notable subject, it must have recived significant coverage, that can be verified by reliable sources. In this instance, you need to prove, with external sources, that this school is worthy of note. If there are articles about this school, you can use them as references that will assert notability. Hope that helps. i ^said 06:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

missing Laserium article

there was an article on the Laserium entertainment brand, which has existed for thirty years and founded the laser entertainment industry worldwide, and which is still active and expanding.

why did this article dissappear completely? the artical was neutral and descriptive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.62.56.63 (talk) 04:17, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I went to Laserium, and its entry in the deletion log pointed me to a recent deletion discussion which seems to suggest that the article (a) was not neutral, but rather read like an ad for the company, and (b) did not provide sufficient evidence of notability. As the result of the AfD included a note that there would be no prejudice towards recreation, if you want to rewrite the article you can submit it to Wikipedia:Articles for creation, or equivalently register a username and create it yourself, as long as you make sure this time it cites its sources. Confusing Manifestation 04:51, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Moving a talk page

Resolved

The page University of Dayton South Student Neighborhood was moved a couple months back to University of Dayton Ghetto after a discussion among the editors on the page. However, the talk page is still at Talk:University of Dayton South Student Neighborhood, and the system won't let me move it without administrator help - it gives me the message "The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name, or use Requested moves to ask an administrator to help you with the move. Do not manually move the article by copying and pasting it; the page history must be moved along with the article text." Am I doing something wrong, or do I need to get admin help? Thanks for any help in advance. Newsboy85 05:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Erk. It looks like instead of moving Talk:University of Dayton South Student Neighborhood to Talk:University of Dayton Ghetto, as should have happened when the main article moved, someone put in a redirect from Talk:University of Dayton Ghetto back to the original talk page. It seems to be uncontroversial. I'm going to do some digging just to make sure, and then I'll list it at WP:RM — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 06:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

It's been moved a couple of times and got messed up. I'm creating a timeline to try and sort this out. — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 06:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I moved it four months ago. I posted a couple of times about the move to the talk page, since I saw that it had been moved before, but there didn't seem to be any more controversy. I don't know what went wrong, whether it was my error or if the redirect on the Ghetto talk page got in the way. Newsboy85 06:27, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

It looks like someone commented on the talk page that has the redirect on it, and that you can only move onto a redirect if the redirect is the only thing in the history (for GFDL reasons). It's entirely possible you missed that it didn't get moved when you moved the article. I've requested that it be moved[2]. — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 06:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Newsboy85 06:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Move complete. — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 15:02, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

how do I indicate a reference?

I want to indicate that the material on Eduardo Arias is from a New York Times article. How do I indicate this as a reference so that no one accuses me of original research? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Minaker (talk • contribs) 06:02, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

After the material you get from a source, you'll type <ref> </ref> tags. Between the tags, you will type what will appear in the footnote. Make sure there is a header for references, and a {{reflist}} or some other template there. There are many other ways to do this, see WP:CITE for all. i ^said 06:25, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Also see WP:FOOT and WP:CITET. --Teratornis 15:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Trying to delete an article I created

I recently created an article for a friend of mine - Jeffrey Stern. He asked me to delete it saying he didn't feel comfortable with it. I think he tried to do it himself but failed. Can someone nominate it for deletion properly? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rangerkeeper (talk • contribs) 06:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

It has been tagged for speedy deletion, and should be deleted shortly. Hopefully the deleting admin will also delete the AfD. i ^said 06:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

states& their capitals in india

i cant find how can i??

regards, Sonakshi Agarwal your user —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.88.176.10 (talk) 07:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

In general, if you can't find something and know the generic term, you should look there. In your special case, you are searching something about India. Therefore you should look within the India article. There you will find a List of the states of India with links to articles about each of them, where you can find the capitals.--Thw1309 09:39, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

List of Indian state and union territory capitals may help. I found it with this Google search on Wikipedia. --Teratornis 15:19, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Disputed images

Moved to WP:VPP#Disputed images - this is a question about policy. Od Mishehu 10:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

julia robert

i woul like to know about her sedme more about her one email email removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.49.89.79 (talk) 09:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Then I suggest you search for the article. The search box in the left side will most likely give you the page you were looking for. --Pekaje 11:33, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia has no article about a Julia Robert; that's a redirect to the Julia Roberts article. Her article contains plenty of information about the famous American actress, if that is the person you mean. --Teratornis 15:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

How to contact someone who has edited a page

I have just looked up my godfather, Robert, Lord Chalmers. His entry notes that it was edited on 22 July 2007. His entry on Peerage.com has also been edited during 2007.It would be very interesting to make contact with whoever did the editing, as I am reviewing Lord Chalmers' entry in the Register of Oriel College, Oxford. Robin Harland via <email removed for your security> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robin Harland (talk • contribs) 11:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

When you look in the history to see when it was edited, you will also see the name of the editors. Next to each name is a "talk" tab that will direct you to the talk page of the specific editor. You can leave a message for him or her there. Some Wikipedia editors accept e-mail as well. If you do not hear back from the editor within a few days, you might want to look for "e-mail this user" under the toolbox to try to contact the individual that way. --Moonriddengirl 11:43, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

In the meantime, I've removed your email address from this page, as Wikipedia pages are widely spread all over the internet and very visible to spammers and other people with less-than-benevolent intentions. We are only able to provide answers on Wikipedia anyway, so it won't much help you in getting a response. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 13:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Staffordshire Senior Challenge Cup

I am trying to find the full list of past winners.

The list I have brought up is said to be incomplete and followed by "..you can help by expanding it".

What doesthat mean, how do I do that?––— —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.35.100.211 (talk) 12:31, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

That just means that the list still needs some work (I notice that some large sections are missing, i.e. from 1996-1999), and we need editors such as you to help improve it. If you're willing, you can click on the "edit this page" link at the top of the page and modify the article to include this missing information - that's the whole purpose of a Wiki. For more information, check out Help:Editing. If you're really interested in becoming a regular contributor, you may also want to consider creating an account. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 13:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

It means that the list is incomplete, as it says. It continues with "you can help by expanding it" because Wikipedia is a wiki encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Each article is written by volunteer editors. You can contribute by editing the list. Obviously, that's not feasible if you yourself are looking for the complete list, but perhaps if you do find it you could add it to the article. Leebo ^T/C 13:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Authors???

How do you cite wikipedia on aworks cited page if there's no author???

13:27, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia, which provides a range of citations in various styles for you. Please note, however, that many teachers or professors do not consider Wikipedia to be a reliable or acceptable source for information. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 13:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

how to get

how can i get it at my home —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.89.73.25 (talk) 13:40, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't understand your question. If you're asking how to get to Wikipedia from your home computer, go to http://en.wikipedia.org . If you can't edit from home because you are blocked, please review our blocking policy and wait for the block to expire, or follow the instructions on that page to request an unblock. If you're asking about something not related to Wikipedia, then I'm afraid you're in the wrong place. Factual questions should go to the Reference Desk and should be clearly worded. I hope something here helped out, if not, please feel free to post again. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 13:51, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Specifically, the problem with your sentence is that you used the pronoun "it" without defining the referent anywhere. That is, you did not state the noun or noun phrase that the word "it" should stand for. Here are some examples of how to use the word "it" properly:

• I have a dog, and it barks. ("Dog" is the referent of "it" and appears first.)
• It's impossible to guess what an unreferenced "it" means. ("To guess" is the referent of "it" and appears afterward.)

And by the way, the habit of using too many unreferenced pronouns is one of the symptoms of early Alzheimer's disease, as the victim's brain deteriorates and he or she has trouble remembering nouns - but I am not giving medical advice here, just recounting a random yet disturbingly interesting fact. --Teratornis 15:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Must be a lot of Alzheimer's in songwriters: It's raining again, It's raining men, It's all over now, etc lol --Dweller 15:46, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

That "it without a referent" is a peculiarity of English. In Esperanto, for example, you don't say "Ĝi pluvas" (It is raining); you just say "Pluvas" (Is raining), with the noun "rain" sort of inherent in the verb. --Orange Mike 15:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Wiki Tools Available?

Do you know if there is a wiki validator out there and a wiki spell checker?

--156.77.108.70 16:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not really clear on what you mean, partly because of your use of the word "wiki" without any more specification. Wikipedia has a group of editors who work together to develop tools, called Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts. These scripts have a lot of different functions, but I'm pretty sure you need to create an account to use any of them. If you are talking about wikis in general, I'm really not sure. Wikipedia can't really offer much advice on the specifics of other wikis without knowing which ones you mean. Leebo ^T/C 16:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I do have an account I didnt realize I had not signed in. I am developing a wiki for a company, my thought is when I leave it would be nice to have some tools that would allow people to know, though a wiki validator type tool to know exactly what mistakes have been made and also a wiki type spell check to make sure spelling is correct.

--Gawatkin 17:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if there is any function of the MediaWiki software (or another platform you might be using) that would assist with those goals. For spell-checking, I typically use Firefox with a spellcheck extension, but I don't know of wiki-specific tools like that. Leebo ^T/C 17:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Question

Hi,

I have attempted to enter my password a number of times and all I get is rejection of the password. Please have a good Thanksgiving. Neil Hill <email removed for protection> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.187.140.76 (talk) 17:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello, never give up your email on Wikipedia. I'll contact an administrator for your password. Martial BACQUET 17:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Have you try to reset your password? On the Login Page, enter your username then click on Email New Password. It will send you a new password. If you have not provide your email in your account, I think you have to create a new one. Martial BACQUET 17:37, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

An administrator can not get a password for you. As indicated, you can request a new password if you enabled email, but if not you will have to create a new account. Leebo ^T/C 17:42, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Submitting an entry by attachment

My question is whether or not it is possible to submit an entry by attachmen I have a seve-page entry about "Action in the Afternoon," the only live-outdoor western ever on network television, aired in 1953 by CBS-Tv. I'm 81 years old--and was one of the directors on the show--and having to type the whole thing again would be a true chore.

Can entries be submitted by using an attachment? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.118.205.133 (talk) 17:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

No, things have to be formatted in the proper way to fit our style and standards. In any case, I hate to say this, but it sounds like this would be highly unsuitable for Wikipedia. We specialize in collecting already published materials, not in new information. --Orange Mike 18:02, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Would the attachment be a text document? If it is, you could probably copy/paste it and someone else could handle formatting, assuming it did comply with our policies and guidelines. Would that be feasible? Leebo ^T/C 18:06, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I can well imagine, if the article does not fit our guidelines (linked in Leebo's note just above mine) that there would be many outlets for such an article. :) If you determine it isn't the kind of article that Wikipedia hosts, you might want to look into print publications to see if there is an appropriate home for it there. --Moonriddengirl 18:09, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Google:"Action in the afternoon" finds some interesting links. There are lots of wikis about television; see: wikiindex:Category:Television. For example, The TV IV claims to want information about every television show. Odds are, they won't be as persnickety as Wikipedia when it comes to original content and so on. You or someone else will still have to format your document as wikitext, but that's no problem if you find a fellow TV enthusiast to help. Also see: Wikipedia:WikiProject Television. --Teratornis 19:39, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Turkish Language page is broken

Could someone take a look at Turkish Language and figure out why the info box isn't working properly? I've looked it over and can't seem to find a darn thing wrong with it, but obviously something is. Thanks. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, already fixed. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Chuck Yeager

Why are my edits not showing up?

You have all sorts of misinformation re Chuck Yeager and Mrs. Yeager. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scott1012007 (talk • contribs) 19:53, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

what sorts of misinformation? --Fredrick day 20:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

• You removed references, external links and properly referenced information. Because of that your edits got reverted. None of the info you removed appears to be misinformation, so I suggest you explain your reasoning on the article's discussion page and come to an agreement with other editors. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:06, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict due to server lock) Your edits have been recorded, see the article's history, but they are being reverted by other editors who view your edits as vandalism. Removal of large sections of referenced information needs to be backed up with an adequate explanation on the talk page first. You received two notices on your user talk page about this. I'd suggest you speak to the editors who reverted your edits to explain your actions, and see if some consensus can be reached regarding what you view as misinformation. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

(After third edit conflict and maybe gilding the lily therefore, but...) Your edits have been reverted by other users. Please the revision history of the article. You can access this yourself for any article and most other types of pages by clicking the "history" tab at the top of the page. According to the edit summaries left, it appears that your edits replaced cited material with your own, unverified statements. This does not necessarily mean that your corrections weren't accurate (I didn't explore them), but that material on Wikipedia must be verified through citation to reliable sources.--Fuhghettaboutit —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 20:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

New Template request

I need help creating a new template for infant age or possibly a combination birth date and age template. I have looked at the templates at Category:Date mathematics templates. I think a template converted age for infants under 1 year to ## mos. and ## days and switched to ## yrs and ## mos. from say 1-3 and then just years above. However, maybe I need two new templates for {{age in months and days}} and {{Age in years and months}}. Where can I seek such help. I have sought help at

1. {{Birth date and age}} - Template_talk:Birth_date_and_age#Infant_parameterization
2. {{Age in years and days}} - Template_talk:Age_in_years_and_days#Infant_age
3. {{User current age}}'s leading editor - User_talk:Alfakim#Infant_age_template

I am now also posting at Category_talk:Date_mathematics_templates#Infant_age, but that page does not have an active edit history.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 22:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I think your request would be better placed at Wikipedia:Requested templates.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 22:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Vinoly Corrections

Hello. Kindly make the following corrections to Rafael Vinoly's bio on your site...

CHANGE: He was educated at the Faculty of Architecture and Urbanism at the University of Buenos Aires, graduating in 1968. TO: He was educated at the University of Buenos Aires, receiving a Diploma in Architeture in 1968 and a Master of Architecture from the School of Architecture and Urbanism in 1969.

CHANGE:He founded the firm Rafael Viñoly Architects PC in 1982. TO: He founded the firm Rafael Viñoly Architects PC in 1983.

Thank you for your kind attention to these requests.

Debra Pickrel, Director, Communications & Public Relations Rafael Vinoly Architects PC 50 Vandam Street New York NY 10013 US T +1 (212) 924-5060 <email address removed by User:ConMan> http://www.rvapc.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.14.68.146 (talk) 22:57, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I will do it for you. MindstormsKid 23:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia encourages all its users to be bold and make changes as they see fit. So, next time, if you see something that ought to be fixed, go ahead and do it! GlassCobra (Review) 23:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Although given the contributor's conflict of interest, it's better to have brought it to attention of uninvolved editors. And I've removed the email address, even if it may be listed on their own website or elsewhere, just in case they don't realise just how much spam that may generate. Confusing Manifestation 02:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Question regarding a rude editor

This user http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:70.188.24.125 has been insulting me nonstop despite my trying to calmly explain something to him and I'm just wondering why such a rude person is allowed here to begin with. I'm not the first person he's shown a bad attitude to. He's very egotistical and ill-mannered. Wouldn't it be better for the site if he was permanently banned? Bokan 23:44, 2 October 2007 (UTC)Bokan

I think the guys (and gals) at WP:ANI would be able to help you. --Agüeybaná 23:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

As to "why such a rude person is allowed here," you refer to one or (possibly) more people who are editing via an IP address - we cannot be sure how many people are using that address to edit here. The talk page: User talk:70.188.24.125 seems to suggest there might be more than one person involved, perhaps at different times. You may be dealing with one distinct person for all we know. Perhaps the real question is why Wikipedia allows people to edit without creating accounts, which is to say, what are the benefits of this policy that could offset the griefers and vandals it so obviously encourages? It turns out that nobody appears to have actually investigated the issue properly, that is, by trying to determine how many constructive edits this policy generates (that is, how many people will only contribute anonymously, and would not create accounts if that were a requirement), and weigh that against the destructive edits it generates (that is, those destructive edits which would not occur under the mild deterrent of registration). It is not sufficient, of course, merely to count the positive and negative edits by unregistered users currently - we would have to account for the numbers of both who would be deterred if we allowed only registered users to edit. It's also not clear how to compare positive and negative edits - perhaps one negative edit offsets several positive edits, by stressing out the constructive editors and wasting their time, possibly even driving away some positive editors altogether. As far as I can tell, the only way to properly test this question would be to actually require users to log in to edit, for a period of several months, and compare the results to the previous several months. No such test has occurred, but that doesn't stop lots of people from having strong opinions on the subject. For example, our Great Leader has a deep, nonnegotiable commitment to allowing unregistered users to edit, and this goes back to the very beginning of Wikipedia. In the meantime, editing on Wikipedia is not for the faint of heart - the proper mindset is one of sangfroid. See WP:EIW#Conten for links to pages with guidelines for dealing with content disputes, and WP:EIW#Enforc for links to pages about enforcement (for example, WP:BLOCK). Bfigura has substituted the {{Uw-npa3}} warning template onto User talk:70.188.24.125#October 2007, so that IP address will be blocked if one or more people continue to abuse it. --Teratornis 14:57, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

October 3

Why my article didn't appear in its complete theme?

Greetings Wikipedia administrator...

I was trying to add a new article (about an artist called Benjamin Heine).. and i prepared it completely with its codes, and every thing is good.. But when i tried to add it, it doesn't appear.. just the first line or line and half.. and the rest of the document is disappeared... I kept trying and trying and searching for what's the problem .. but i can't fix it out.. So why did that happen?.

Thanks for your help...

With Respect..

Alshaimaa —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alshaimaa (talk • contribs) 00:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to help, but there doesn't seem to be a page called Benjamin Heine. If there is a fragment, could you go there, copy the heading as it's represented there and paste it here so that we can take a look at it? Thanks. Accounting4Taste 00:19, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You had empty and unclosed reference tags throughout the article. They looked like this: <ref>. Such tags need to have a source added after that tag followed by an ending tag which would look like this: </ref>. I have fixed all of these problems. Please see WP:CITE and WP:FOOT for more information. Also, I think you would greatly benefit from taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit 00:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the post above, the article is at Ben Heine‎ (a page move may be in order).--Fuhghettaboutit 00:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

It was dumb of me not to look at the editor's contributions instead of tracking by cited name. Thanks for helping this user. Accounting4Taste 00:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Infoboxes and their layout

I've been going through the articles for Playboy Playmates and have noticed quite a few pages where someone has deleted all the hard returns so that when someone edits the article, the infobox is all in one very long unbroken block of text instead of having each value of the infobox on its own line. This makes it really rather hard to read and edit the info. Is there a reason for this? Is it a memory conservation issue? If so, I doubt it's saving that much memory to outweigh the lost readability of the code. Dismas|^(talk) 00:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Can you give a link to this article? Thank you Martial BACQUET 00:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Not really since I've been putting the carriage returns back in when I find them. If you want an example of what the box looks like, go to any playmate's article such as Echo Johnson, Ashley Allen, Anna-Marie Goddard, etc. It doesn't hurt the layout of the article once saved, both ways show up correctly. But removing the returns decreases readability. Dismas|^(talk) 01:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Change article title? how

How do I change article name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreambuildersco (talk • contribs) 02:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Pages are renamed by moving them to new target names. This procedure preserves the page's edit history. Please do not rename a page by copying/pasting its content to a new page name. If you have an account and it is at least four days old, you can move a page yourself, but please first review Wikipedia:Naming conventions. If you still wish to rename the page, go to it and click the move tab at the top (near the history and watch tabs). You can then specify a new name for the article. The old page name will automatically become a redirect to the new page. However, if the desired target page name already exists, you will need an administrator to move the page for you, which can be requested at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Hope this helps.--Ybbor^Talk 02:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

How to request material be added to an article

I failed to find directions on how to post a request for missing information to be added to an article. Reading a very good article on reporter and talk show host, Les Kinsolving, there is nothing on his early life. Tonight (10/2/'07) I heard him say he was in the Army in WWII and think he said he became an officer in the Korean conflict.

How do I ask one of the contributors to his fascinating story to add information?

Thanks. Charles Moose —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmoose (talk • contribs) 03:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

If you think you can write the information up yourself, then go ahead - go to the article, click on an "edit" button, and start typing. If you're asking because you feel someone else could do a better job, go to the article's discussion page and add a comment there, preferably including a link to the article you read. Since the talk page may not be visited frequently, you could also look on the talk page for a "Wikiproject" banner, that will lead you to a discussion board filled with people who may be able to help as well. Confusing Manifestation 03:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Video sourcing

how do i properly cite a vidoe reference in a formal essay —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.250.138.185 (talk) 03:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Translating a page into English

How might I go about translating content from a Japanese Wikipedia article to add to an English Wikipedia article? Is there some kind of template I should use? Some kind of category I should add? How do I reference a translation, exactly? Articles in question : オニヤンマ to Anotogaster sieboldii. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrianAdler (talk • contribs) 05:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:TRANSL.--Mostargue 12:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

feedback for the image

I have nominated my image in Featured picture nominations/October2007, i dint get any feed back from user. What I have to do to get the feedback from the nominators?? --Cj.samson 06:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You have to place your nomination at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates#Current nominations. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 06:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

changing the name of the page

The Name/Title of a page I created has lowercase letters where the world should be capitalized. How I do edit the page name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paloma5483 (talk • contribs) 06:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You can use the move function on the top of the page. See Help:Moving a page. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 06:20, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Your account was created today, so you will not have access to the move function for 4 days. You can request this kind of non-controversial move at Wikipedia:Requested moves without much trouble. Leebo ^T/C 13:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

October 2 Source Code

Is there any way to get the source code of the main page for October 2 2007? I'd like to put it in my userpage because my picture was selected for the feature article that day. - Vicer 07:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Getting the whole Main Page might be tricky, but you can show just the POTD box with {{POTD/2007-10-02}}. Confusing Manifestation 08:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for the help, but I was referring to the Featured Article which has my picture, and not the POTD. - Vicer 08:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

That would be {{Wikipedia:Today's featured article/October 2, 2007}}. --ais523 09:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

That'll have to do, maybe I could rebuild that whole page using the templates *shrugs*. Thank you all for your help :) - Vicer 09:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism via starting new page

What are the procedures to remove vandalism that is in the form of starting a completely new page, as shown in Talk:Attrition (weathering) by 82.110.217.221? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saphius (talk • contribs) 10:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You can blank the page or request speedy deletion, but registered users are doing it Martial BACQUET 10:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Place {{db-vand}} on the page and an admin will delete it for you. --ais523 10:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

public administration and libertanianism

Is public administration and libertarianism compatible?Why or why not?--Takotako85 12:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Please do your own homework.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:00, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

See: {{dyoh}}. As to the homework question, the answer depends on who you ask, since everybody has a different concept of what your teacher's vague generalities actually do or should mean. Many people have a double standard resulting from self-bias, demanding "liberty" when they themselves feel like doing something, while simultaneously demanding more "public administration" when someone else's activity bothers them. You might find something to think about at Negative liberty#Negative liberty and authority: Hobbes and Locke. --Teratornis 13:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Template problem

I use Template:Infobox cricket tournament main for many of the articles I write on cricket but recently I noticed that the template seemed broke. For instance in my World Cricket Classic article the template heading is there but all the info I entered is not even though it can be seen when you edit the page. I don't have a clue about making templates but looking through the history of this one I've noticed that last week a user was restructuring it so I'm guessing he messed it up? Thanks in advance for any assistance.Crickettragic 14:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Someone moved the template and caused quite a few problems, i am trying to fix the documentation now, you haven't been forgotten, it's just taking some time to remedy. Woodym555 16:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Right, fixed the problem. Someone had moved the page and cleaned up the template without amending the documentation. The correct documentation can be found at Template:Infobox cricket tournament main/doc and the template is called Template:Infobox cricket tournament main now. Put simply, all the parameters were renamed and so none of the old parameters would have worked. By the By, you should be using Template:Infobox cricket tournament anyway as it is for a specific event if i am not mistaken. I have now used that on World Cricket Classic. Hope that helps. Woodym555 17:00, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Table and bolding

Why are the table and bolding not working together? This doesn't work "

Hello hello hello

" (<table>Hello <b>hello</b> hello</table>), but it works on the ordinary html environment. Neither does it work like this: "

Hello hello hello

" (<table>Hello '''hello''' hello</table>). I would be grateful for an answer. :) Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 15:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Bold writing works with tables. Please look at Help:Table, to see how to create tables for Wikipedia. There you will see examples of bold text within tables and how to create it.--Thw1309 16:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the link. :) I did experimenting and looked around and found mostly out what I wanted. Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 07:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

If someone knows why bolding creates that mistake when written like I did it would be great to know it. :) Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 07:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Urgently need the company addreses

Dear Sir, I saw this very intrested website so now writing you this mail actually i am a manufacturer of army navy airforce uniforms and accessories etc so i need some companies postal addreses or e mail addreses of greek.I shall be thankfull to you for this if you can help me . looking forward Zaid Shaukat shamesha stitching company p o box 807 sialkot,pakistan www.shamehsa.20m.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.135.15.159 (talk) 15:36, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Wikipedia cannot provide the information you are looking for. You will need to contact the the comapany directly to get their postal or email address. Leebo ^T/C 15:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Linking a section in another page

Is there a way to create a link which goes to another page to a specific section on that other page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gawatkin (talk • contribs) 15:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC) --Gawatkin 15:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the format is [[Name of page#Name of section]]. For instance, to link directly to this question, you would have [[Wikipedia:Help desk#Linking a section in another page]]. Leebo ^T/C 15:45, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Sure. What you do is type the name of the page, followed by a number sign (#) and the name of a section header within that page. By example, to link to this post, on this page, one would type Wikipedia:Help desk#Linking a section in another page.--Fuhghettaboutit 15:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

See more at Help:Section#Section linking - a case where a link to the answer actually answers the question by itself! PrimeHunter 15:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi

My IP is 76.113.25.140

These are my contributions.

15:55, 3 October 2007 (hist) (diff) Kapu (caste)‎ (Undid revision 162031937 by 76.113.25.140 (talk)) (top) 
15:40, 3 October 2007 (hist) (diff) Kapu (caste)‎ 
15:53, 20 September 2007 (hist) (diff) Komati (caste)‎ 

How can I delete all my contributions and not show them up again even in my IP Address History when a Reader tries to look at all my Contributions. I am a recent new user of Wikipedia and I wish you could help me. Thank you

What you are asking is impossible. A wiki automatically keeps track of exactly who makes what contributions in what places so that specific changes can be attributed to certain people. GlassCobra (Review) 16:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

When you made your edits, you agreed to license your contributions under the GDFL. Please read the therms of this license and you will understand, that the Wikipedia Foundation has the right, to keep them, even if you wish it to be deleted. --Thw1309 16:34, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

(I formatted your contributions by indenting them one space, so they would appear the way you probably wanted them to. We're not supposed to edit other people's stuff on the Help desk, but in this case you were obviously trying to format that information. I hope I did not offend anyone.) It's not entirely impossible for your edits to disappear, but it is unlikely. For example, if every article you edited should happen to get deleted, then ordinary users will no longer see your contributions (only administrators can see edits to deleted articles). However, wanting to hide your edits is not sufficient reason by itself to delete those articles. Sorry. Of course Wikipedia does delete a lot of articles, so you may get lucky. --Teratornis 17:42, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

In the interests of full disclosure, there are limited circumstances under which edits in revision histories are deleted. I do not think your request fits the criteria for such deletion, which is directed at removal of personal information or libellous edits. Such requests are made at Wikipedia:Requests for oversight.--Fuhghettaboutit 17:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

warning: you have not entered an edit summary

When I undo an edit and place an edit summary in the edit summary box, I still get a warning that I haven't entered an edit summary. This started not so long ago. Has anyone else noticed this and is someone working on this? –panda 17:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

How peculiar! This has not happened to me, which is probably not that helpful to you. :) But you did ask, so I thought I'd let you know the problem is not universal. If it matters, I use Firefox. If nobody here can help you, you might want to pose the question at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Good luck! --Moonriddengirl 18:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Largest page?

Could you please tell me which the largest page is on wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.113.230 (talk) 18:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

According to special:Longpages, last updated on October 1, 2007, the winner by number of bytes is List of United Kingdom locations: Be-Bn .--Fuhghettaboutit 18:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

delet my account

how do i delete my wikipedia account because i am worried about it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rossm30 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Due to the fact that Wikipedia content is licensed under the GFDL, all edits must be kept for attribution purposes, and so your account cannot be deleted. You do, however, have the right to vanish, which you can exercise by (1) requesting your user page (found at Special:Mypage) and/or user talk page (found at Special:Mytalk) be deleted, by adding the {{db-userreq}} template to them; (2) requesting to change your username to something that is unconnected with you (possibly a random collection of letters and numbers); (3) never logging in to your account again. If you do this, you are still free to register a new username if you wish to continue editing Wikipedia. --Moonriddengirl 18:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You have two edits. The one where you posted this question and a vandal edit to a band's article. I don't see the concern. Dismas|^(talk) 20:00, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

What link do I follow to post an entry to Wiki?

I must be clueless - but I see no link to follow to post my own encyclopaedic entry!

Please guide me.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChrisK6500 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

This is typically done by searching for the desired name, and clicking on the red link that appears at the top of the page if the page you want doesn't exist yet. Alternatively, you can go to Help:Starting a page. Leebo ^T/C 18:38, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Just to add a little more, before starting a page, please review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, you might, as Leebo suggests, want to see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Good luck, and happy editing. :) --Moonriddengirl 18:42, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Columns?

Dear People Who Know Stuff: Is there a better way to do columns than I've done here? It's tedious to do and difficult to change. I'm hoping that somebody can point me to a technique that not only does it automatically but that will allow the insertion of future items that will then sort themselves magically into alphabetical order. :) --Moonriddengirl 18:59, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Next you'll be asking for the location of the philosophers stone; directions to the fountain of youth; where you can pick up an original copy of Tamerlane:-p--Fuhghettaboutit 21:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Alas, then. That sounds like a "no". :) --Moonriddengirl 21:50, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh no, I didn't know and reserve my right to be silly on occasion. Regarding the post below, that's certainly an easier method but note that it doesn't appear to work for Internet Explorer (working fine in Firefox).--Fuhghettaboutit 22:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Silly is good. :D And I'm very glad I use Firefox. --Moonriddengirl 12:09, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely you can, there is indeed a much better way ... go take a look at the wiki code for Pop_icon#Notable_pop_icons. While you're at it, add it to your watch-list and help keep people from adding their favorite flavor of skittles to the list. Oy vey, why I volunteered to help out on "pop culture" articles I'll never know ... but I digress. dr.ef.tymac 21:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Follow-up: the alphabetic sorting you will have to do yourself, mind you, but that should be an easy cut-n-paste from your favorite text editor or word processor, especially since it can all be in one nice long neat list without all those HTML {br/}'s in there and stuff. If your favorite doesn't have this feature, find a new favorite. dr.ef.tymac 22:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh lovely! Thank you so much! That's going to make my album-article-creating life much easier. :D (No skittles, check.) --Moonriddengirl 22:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Follow-up: Hold off for a bit though on the article itself, at least for fifteen minutes or so, if you don't mind. I may have even better news for you. (stay tuned). dr.ef.tymac 22:23, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Done: The list is now (kinda) sorted on last name with all the formatting gone (after doing some semi-complete text processing). You will notice that some last names are still not in correct order, those are left as an exercise for whoever wants to either: 1) finish cleaning it up; or 2) revert and go back to the way it was before. HTH. dr.ef.tymac 22:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Wow! That's fabulous. Thank you so much for taking the time to help out with that. :) --Moonriddengirl 23:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

WHOIS

How do I identify a user's IP address from his/her username? I'm suspecting a case of sockpuppetry, where an IP address is making edits that are extremely similar to those of a blocked user, and I think this is a good first step, to do a WHOIS on both of them... except I don't know how to do that. If this is NOT the best first step, any guidance would be very welcome. Thanks in advance. Accounting4Taste 19:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You can't find out a user's IP address. You may request at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser that a user with this ability do so, but there are requirements for such a request, as seen at the top of that page. Leebo ^T/C 19:10, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much; I'll go that route. Much obliged for your prompt response. Accounting4Taste 19:11, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You can, of course, do half of what you want on your own, by running WHOIS on the IP address. See the WHOIS article. This usually doesn't tell you a person's name, but it should at least identify the Internet access provider. --Teratornis 06:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Writing an inmate

How would in found out what level is an inamte in to write to him? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.234.135.198 (talk) 19:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You might try contacting the facility in which the individual is an inmate directly. If you want further assistance in figuring out how to do that, you might try asking at the reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You'll probably need to give them slightly more specific information, however, in order for them to offer any help. --Moonriddengirl 19:32, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

addressing by surname

can someone point me to the mos guide covering the use of a subjects surname in articles? e.g. "Bush did this and Bush did that." vs "George did this and George did that." thanks! --emerson7 19:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies) is the one you want. The information is found under "subsequent uses of names". :) --Moonriddengirl 19:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

thank you soooo much....cheers! --emerson7 21:11, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

lone months and years

Where's the guideline that says something along the lines of "lone months and years should not generally be linked..."? I saw it a while back but can't find it now. Dismas|^(talk) 19:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context#Dates, a supplementary article to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers). --Kjoonlee 21:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Just what I was looking for! Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 21:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

create a new page

Hi,

I would like to know how to create a page, but hold it before it goes online. I want to create the page and ask for aproval before other people see it and that might take more than a week.

Thnk you very much for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marinahmartins (talk • contribs) 20:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

There's no way to do it with ordinary articles, but you can use your own userspace page for the job. Try making User:Marinahmartins/temporary page and editing it there. You can move the page (Help:Moving a page) later on. (You might want to delete the resulting redirect.) --Kjoonlee 20:59, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

But in this case, will people be able to see it even if for a temporary time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marinahmartins (talk • contribs) 21:07, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia edits are public. You cannot make a page which can only be viewed by your account. But you could choose to never save the page on Wikipedia. You can use preview to see what it will look like and save the source text in a text file on your own computer. It would give more work to copy it back and forth when you edit it. It's easier to use a user subpage like User:Marinahmartins/temporary page and few or no people will notice it (especially if you pick a new name which isn't linked from here). PrimeHunter 21:38, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Assessment stats is rendering improperly...

As per discussion here, there is an issue with the transcluded assessment statistics at the bottom of the project's sidebar being rendered improperly when using Firefox. Is this a problem that can be easily fixed or is it a MediaWiki issue? Thanks, Girolamo Savonarola 21:44, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Jeri Thompson

Hi. I've found an article Jeri Thompson that uses terms like Mrs. and Sen. - which doesn't seem to be the norm on Wikipedia. Is that a problem? Thanks.

No. --wpktsfs 22:36, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

In that instance, the titles help the reader know which "Thompson" is being referred to, Jeri or her husband. Dismas|^(talk) 22:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I understand, but you can do that by saying "Fred" and "Jeni". I've seen royal titles and "Sirs" deleted, and I remember reading somewhere that titles are to be avoided. I'll look for that page again. 69.201.150.130 00:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Stylistically, "Mrs" would be more appropriate for the tone of an enyclopedia article than "Jeni," if a distinction needs to be made that makes "Thompson" impractical. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

(reset indent) Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies) would seem to suggest that the subject of the article be referred to as "Thompson" while her husband be disambiguated with first or complete name. --Moonriddengirl 00:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

TOMAHAWK CHOPS page needed why did u deleted

I was trying to educate the masses on the TOMAHAWK CHOPS Steaks not the team about the way to cook a steak TOMAHAWK CHOP and how nice it looks but my page was deleted, could you tell me if ok? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steaklover (talk • contribs) 23:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

It's not the good place to ask this question. Refer to WP:DP Martial BACQUET 23:13, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

According to the deletion logs, the page was deleted under Criteria for Speedy Deletion G12, for blatant advertising. Please see this page for what is considered advertising on Wikipedia and this page for other items that are considered unencyclopedic. For future reference, you may also want to read the Frequently Asked Questions before posting - you'll usually get a faster response. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a how-to guide, but wikiHow is. WikiHow wants to be the world's largest how-to manual; maybe you can help them. For general information, also see: Why was my article deleted? --Teratornis 06:13, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

October 4

Backround on userpage

How do put another background on your userpage? And also is it possible to get a picture as your background. ForeverDEAD 00:03, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't know, but see WP:EIW#UserPage for links to (probably) just about everything written about user pages. If you can't find it there, you probably can't find it. --Teratornis 00:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

How to edit

Hi, the wikipedia team! How d'you do? I try to edit a message but it seems the problem does not work out! Can you help?

Bye for now Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rê Atoum Logos Onan (talk • contribs) 00:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, which message? What sort of problem? --Kjoonlee 00:29, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

how on earth do you tag an article?

I have looked everywhere on Wikipedia's help files to the answer for this question, but it simply isn't written down anywhere: How do I tag an article?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.56.92 (talk) 00:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, what sort of tag do you want to add? If it's a cleanup tag, you can put it on the article. If it's a request for a photograph or a call for help, you put it on the talk page. --Kjoonlee 00:30, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

If you're talking about tagging it for improvement or noting disputes, many of the common templates used on articles are gathered here. If you wanted to note that an article lacked notability, say, you would open the page for editing as usual and put the tag {{notability}} at the top of the page. When you save the page, the template expands to document your concerns. I hope that helps. :) --Moonriddengirl 00:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Right. Normally you can just edit the article to add cleanup tags. Look at Camel and how it starts, with a {{Cleanup}} template. If you don't want to add cleanup notices but want to add categories, try adding [[Category:Livestock]] or something similar onto the article. --Kjoonlee 00:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you had trouble looking up what you want under the word "tag" because the correct term is "messagebox" for what you (probably) mean. According to the Editor's index:

• Tags: see Wikipedia:Span tags, Messageboxes (using the term “tags” to refer to messageboxes is common but technically incorrect; messageboxes are templates)

so you needed to look here: WP:EIW#Messageboxes. --Teratornis 00:44, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

paragraph

how can i right paragraph —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.36.32.17 (talk) 00:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Would you mind explaining what you mean by "right paragraph"? — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 02:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

signature

I've been trying to get my signiture to be like this :

Maddie ^talk

but it keeps saying invalid html. what am i doing wrong?

Maddie was here 02:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hard to say, but are you sure the "Raw signature" box is checked? --Ybbor^Talk 02:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

This probably isn't it, but try switching the last </sup> and </b> tags, as shown below. It's unlikely, but the software could be getting fussy over the order of the HTML tags. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 05:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

<b><font color="9933ff">[[user:maddiekate|Maddie]]</font> <sup><font color="1E90FF"> [[user_talk:maddiekate|talk]]</font></sup></b>

Yep, elements must be closed at reversed order. Also, consider using more up to date code instead of the deprecated font and b tags: --antilived^{T | C | G} 11:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Example: Maddie ^talk

<span style="font-weight:bold;">[[user:maddiekate|<span style="color:#93F">Maddie</span>]] 
<sup>[[user_talk:maddiekate|<span style="color:#1E90FF">talk</span>]]</sup></span>

Eligibility for owning a hand gun in the state of florida

Hello I just had a question and I could not find the answer. I wanted to know. does a person living in the state of Florida (Florida resident) have to be a US Citizen to own a hand gun in their home or can a US resident own a hand gun. I would appreciate it if this question could be answered for me thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.57.160.247 (talk) 02:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello, I don't think you are in the right place. Have you tried the reference desk yet? They specialize in knowledge questions such as yours. The Help Desk is for questions about working Wikipedia. Hope this helps! Neranei (talk) 02:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Legal disclaimer. Once you understand that Wikipedia does not guarantee its articles about legal topics to be in any way accurate, you can then read Gun law#United States of America, Gun law in the United States, and Gun laws in the United States (by state). If nothing else, at least you might know what information to ask a real attorney to confirm. --Teratornis 06:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Meaning of Cuisine

Meaning of cuisine —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.246.218.1 (talk) 02:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, you should check out the Wikipedia article on that topic. If you still have any questions which are not answered there, please come back and ask and we'll try to help. GlassCobra (Review) 03:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I.e., see cuisine. Also try wiktionary:cuisine and google:define:cuisine. Then please cook us something tasty. --Teratornis 06:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

"Transclusion"

Would I be correct to assume that your word "transclusion" is a portmanteau of the prefix "trans-" and the word "inclusion"? Hallpriest9 (Talk | Archive) 03:05, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

If you click on this link, Transclusion, it will take you to a page where the origin of the word is cited. I don't think the article answers your question, but you will know where and when the word was originated. Accounting4Taste 03:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Transclusion says "probably." I guess we would have to ask Ted Nelson since he allegedly coined the neologism in 1982. Also see Wikipedia:Transclusion for information about how Wikipedia uses the term. --Teratornis 06:28, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

straight edge

Hi,

Can you please see the discussion page on Straight Edge. I think the article focuses too much on the negative. Most straight edge people I knew were non-violent. It would be a shame for the article to get people thinking all straight edgers were like the idiots you mention. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.54.98.104 (talk) 03:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

This page is not for dispute resolution. If you want to pursue dispute resolution, see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution, and seek to resolve this with the editors who wrote the article. Leebo ^T/C 04:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Group e-mail

I am able to insert individual users on my Team Members page. Is is possible to create groups and be able to e-mail to these groups. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.150.83 (talk) 04:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you talking about something directly on Wikipedia? If you are, could you be a bit more specific as to which pages you are talking about? Leebo ^T/C 04:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Is the only reason to "create a username" and "log in" to Wikipedia to edit and create articles?

Same as above: Is the only reason to "create a username" and "log in" to Wikipedia to edit and create articles? Is there another reason to create a login? Thnxs! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Riptide7 (talk • contribs) 04:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Why create an account?. Specifically, some things you didn't mention include moving pages and editing semi-protected pages. You can edit without logging in. Leebo ^T/C 05:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Creating an account also provides some privacy - when not logged in, all contributions are logged using your IP address, which could be used to remotely access your computer. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 05:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

And if you want to be a Metapedian, you need a username to establish an identity other people can recognize. That way they can say things like, "God help us, another blathering essay from Teratornis" (to pick a random username as an example). --Teratornis 06:18, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Adding in nomination list

I have uploaded my image, can anyone help me in adding it to nomination list. My image is in Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/samsoncj snail 07.jpg, i want to get the feedback of the image. --Cj.samson 05:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

You might get feedback faster by posting a link to your image, which appears to be: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/samsoncj snail 07.jpg and Image:Samsoncj snail 07.jpg. The picture looks OK to me, but it looks like you have some competition, such as Image:Notophthalmus viridescens edit.jpg. --Teratornis 06:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

When you flag an article for speedy deletion, and that article gets deleted..

..does your edit count decrease? şœśэїŝәқι 05:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Your official edit count that is kept by Wikipedia will not decrease. However, Interiot's WannabeKate tool, a commonly used edit counter, will show a decrease. Hope this helps! GlassCobra (Review) 06:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

How do I change a reference to a messageboard to my actual name?

Hello - I am the author of the messageboard post cited here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHPI#_ref-ri-55805_0

How do I go about editing that citation to reflect my actual name?

I may be reached via email (personal information removed).

Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.136.109.83 (talk) 07:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

You only have to add your name behind the text and put a brace in front and behind the link. For example [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHPI#_ref-ri-55805_0 name of the link] looks like name of the link.--Thw1309 07:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay, second question... when I go to do what you've suggested, I'm presented with the following when I click to edit the references section: \\\ ==References==

\\\

Obviously without the \\\, which I have used to seperate the question from a code making a new section... but anyways, there is no "list" of references. What do I need to do from here?

There is no real list of references, written by editors. This list is created by the computer, searching for all the references within the text. If you edit the article, you find <ref>text of the reference</ref> For excample in line two you find <ref name="myhippie-aboutus">{{cite web | url=http://www.myhippie.com/aboutus.html | title=About Us | work=Hippie Radio 101.1 | date=2007-09-18 | accessdate=2007-09-24 }}</ref>, which creates the second reference. By editing this text, you change the text, shown within the section references.--Thw1309 07:38, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

One more thing. If you want to change the title within such a citation template, it`s even easier to change the name. You only have to change the text behind |title= .--Thw1309 07:49, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

about publishing an article-reg.

How can I publish my Articles in Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.141.141.54 (talk) 08:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Please look at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. This article will guide you through the creation of articles. Happy editing. --Thw1309 08:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Here's some additional information, in case you want to publish your articles yourself. :)

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --Moonriddengirl 12:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Amherst College needs some help

Could someone - probably best an administrator - have a look at Amherst College, section on the "Origin of name"? There's some highly "discussion-reluctant" IP at work, and I don't seem to be able to communicate my request to find a consensus clearly enough using just the usual means of the article's discussion page, the IP's discussion page, and the source text of the article. (Besides, I neither can nor wish to watch that article day and night...) Thanks, Ibn Battuta 09:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Main problem seems to be the sentence about the reputation of Amherst. There is one thing, you should think about. Is this information relevant for Amherst College. I don't think that this was the reason to call the village (and the college) Armherst. I think this happened, because he was a war heroe and commander in chief. So that's the only information I would include to the article. All the rest should be in his own article (and it is there).

Nevertheless, you are right. You did everything, a polite editor could do to clear the situation and to prevent an edit war. I fear that there is no possiblity to help you. These edits do not reach the level to give you a chance to have the page protected or the IP address banished from Wikipedia. Perhaps you could contact Wikipedia:WikiProject Massachusetts to take care of the article, because it's within the scope of this project.--Thw1309 11:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The suggestion of involving the wider community seems to me a very good one. :) You might want to read over Wikipedia:Disruptive editing. If repeated efforts to engage the editor in dialogue with pointers to policy are ineffective and if wider community involvement as per the dispute resolution process does not help, you may—after all other avenues are explored—want to seek assistance at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. If you fail to get a response from Wikipedia:WikiProject Massachusetts, you might want to seek assistance at the conflict of interest noticeboard, which is for "conflict of interest issues which require outside intervention, such as disputes with tendentious editors and cases where editors are repeatedly adding problematic material over a longer period of time". Given this IP's editing history, it seems a fair assumption that he or she has a strong personal interest in the topic. :) --Moonriddengirl 11:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

hi

why i dont see the desibilities menu? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.62.97.111 (talk) 11:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The closest word I can think of that you might mean is "disabilities"—is that the word you intended? If so, it's still not clear to what you are referring. Can you please flesh out your question?--Fuhghettaboutit 12:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The question may refer to Accessibility features. See: WP:EIW#Ability for a list of links about these. --Teratornis 15:56, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

My preferences

HI for some reason the option to change my skin in my preferences has gone dead. It shows the options but I am currently locked in with cologne blue which has the quick bar option fixed right or left etc. Well I want to change the task bar from right to left but it won't work when I hit the save button. It also won't let me save it back as monobook default. I have changed skins many times -is there a maximum limit or something - as I am stuck with the setting now. In fact in looking all of my preferences are locked I can't change any of the other settings either such as Math or whatever. What is the problem? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 12:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The preference page offers this advice: After saving, you have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes. Internet Explorer: press Ctrl-F5, Mozilla: hold down Shift while clicking Reload (or press Ctrl-Shift-R), Opera/Konqueror: press F5, Safari: press Cmd-Opt-E. I hope, this will help you.--Thw1309 12:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I have Internet Explorer 7.0. There are some skins (at least Cologne Blue but not all) I cannot change away from by clicking "Save" with the mouse. The advice doesn't help. It works if I activate "Save" by pressing Enter (when Save is blue). If Save is not blue then press Tab or Shift+Tab until it becomes blue. I don't know what causes this problem but I would like to hear whether it's the same for you. PrimeHunter 12:28, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

It has always worked in the past. I have tried the control and F5 thing for my computer but it doesn't work. I mostly prefer the colgne blue setting which I have it on this is fine -but under this the quickbar choice of left or right should work and also all the other setting should be free to change . The save button is dead when before it alwaysw changed settings in a second ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 12:30, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The Save button is also dead for me when i click it with the mouse to get away from Cologne Blue. Have you tried activating Save with the Enter key? That works for me. PrimeHunter 12:49, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hits counted

I want to verify if we can get the number of hits your Florida Lottery pages receive per day for a specific period of time. Donna Riordan 12:35, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello, only administrators can access to statistics pages. Sorry. Martial BACQUET 12:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Really? I've not heard of that, but if I can find out how I'm sure we could share said information. Leebo ^T/C 13:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes I don't know why they doesn't want to share these informations but take a look at Special:Specialpages and you will see at the page bottom that this is only for sysops. Am I wrong? Martial BACQUET 13:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The pages at the bottom provide the following info to sysops:

• Block user - this is the mechanism for issuing a block of editing privileges.
• Deleted edits - this shows all edits of a user that were made to articles that have been deleted.
• Import pages - I think this has to do with pages that are moved from other Wikimedia projects.
• Unwatched pages - this shows pages that are on no one's watchlist, and thus subject to unnoticed vandalism.
• View deleted pages - this is for looking at a deleted version of a page.

So, no, it doesn't seem like any of the sysop-only pages provide statistics on page hits. Leebo ^T/C 13:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm sorry. In the MediaWiki there is Special:Popularpages but this page has been apparently disabled here. Martial BACQUET 14:09, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

(undent) The MediaWiki software which powers Wikipedia does provide a page hit counter feature, but Wikipedia's administrators have disabled this feature because Wikipedia does not have enough server power to enable it. See the past discussions about this somewhat-frequently asked question. --Teratornis 15:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Page rename help.

Hey, I just discovered in elc International school, the e is in small letters. The current article is Elc International School. When I tried to move it, an error pops out saying I'm using the same name as the old title. Is there any way I could use the small letter e in the title?? Help? --Hanaichi 12:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello, you can use this template:{{ lowercase|elc International school }}. Martial BACQUET 12:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Ooo right thanks!--Hanaichi 12:44, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

But I still can't seem to do it. Apparantly there is invalid, empty, an incorrectly linked inter-language or inter-wiki title, or contained unsupported characters due to the template. I still don't get it lol.--Hanaichi 12:48, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I finally did it lol. Thanks alot Martial!--Hanaichi 12:50, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, good. You're welcome ;) Martial BACQUET 12:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Pages removed...

Hi,

I'm new to Wikipedia and I put some new pages on there but they were quickly removed. Can someone help me to figure out how to get them to stay? They were marked for deletion apparently because they were advertising, but I see that they are no different than other pages out there.

Brian —Preceding unsigned comment added by Janbur (talk • contribs) 13:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

If your pages have been removed, there is a reason. Please read WP:DP to find out more. Martial BACQUET 13:31, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The only advice I would give, since your articles weren't that spammy, is to include reliable sources that establish how the subjects are notable and multiple independent sources to show that your information is coming from more than the company itself. Leebo ^T/C 13:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you should create a sandbox. There you can create an article without to fear that after the first saving your efforts are deleted, before you have the chance to improve them. You can find your sandbox here--Thw1309 13:49, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

See: Why was my article deleted? --Teratornis 15:49, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Corrections needed on Texas Tech University Center at Junction page

To whom it concerns, I just visited the page for Texas Tech University Center at Junction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Tech_University_Center_at_Junction) I found two errors on the page. 1. Under the facilities usage title, where it list the Outdoor School, it states that the program is for High School Students. It should read K-12. The program is mostly used by the elemetary and middle school kids, and rarely do high school students attend. 2. Under External links, the link to the TTU Center at Junction Outdoor School Site is incorrect. The Proper address should be http://www.depts.ttu.edu/hillcountry/olc Leave off the /olcknow.htm.

Derrick Ard PC/Network Support III Webmaster TTU Center at Junction —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.118.101.209 (talk) 13:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Leebo ^T/C 14:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

How do I make a bot?

I want to make a bot that lists Special:Unusedcategories pages for deletion. How do I do that? Thanks. (PS please don't steal my idea).--Mostargue 14:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

You can read about bot policy at Wikipedia:Bot policy. After you write the script, you'd need to get it approved at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval. I can't really help you with programming though. Perhaps asking at Wikipedia talk:Bot policy could move you in the right direction. Leebo ^T/C 14:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it's a good idea. I already have this idea, but some categories are not used everytime. For example: wikipedians needing help, pages for deletion, etc... Martial BACQUET 14:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Well how about we just have those categories self-reference themselves to get them out of the list?--Mostargue 14:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

You have to do it by yourself I'm afraid. Martial BACQUET 14:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

UserID

How do I get an user ID and Password if needed? Thank you PEggy Gunter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.159.168.52 (talk) 14:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Go to this page and follow the instructions there. Leebo ^T/C 14:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

TIGI - Bed Head

Is it possible to completely re-write the Toni & Guy and Bed Head content? The founders of these two entities would like to write new articles including updated information. Is it also possible to block any future editing from the public? This is NOT for advertising purposes. Thank you. TIGI Bed Head 15:26, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

• HI. To answer in order - Yes, of course this can be re-written - anyone can edit these pages. However in answer to part 2 you need to avoid a conflict of interest and also ensure any additions are verifiable. In answer to part 3 - no not at all - that's not what wikipedia is about I'm afraid. Pedro :  Chat  15:30, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

• The answer to the second part of your question is absolutely not. It sounds like you wish to use the page for advertising purposes. Wikipedia does not allow any form of advertising. The only reason for full page protection is to halt edit wars, not to purposely restrict good faith additions to a page. Leebo ^T/C 15:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

See WP:OWN for more information about part 3. If you want to write articles on a wiki and have ownership rights, you can use WikInfo (or one of the many wikiindex:other wikis which allow that), althrough if your goal is advertising, you may get resistance there. We do have user pages and user subpages which anyone can edit, but by convention we generally consider user pages to be under the control of a specific user. However, the content we put on our user pages is supposed to be in some way related to the encyclopedia project, rather than working like a general Web hosting service or MySpace. --Teratornis 15:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

User:TIGI Bed Head added the last sentence about this not being for adverting after the above 3 comments. If the intent was not advertising, why would the public need to be restricted from editing the article? As Teratornis pointed out, no one owns any article. Not the author and not the subject. Leebo ^T/C 16:34, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The current information posted now for both Toni & Guy and Bed Head is outdated and incorrect, and was not posted by a member of the Toni & Guy/Bed Head/TIGI team. Our sole purpose for this inquiry is to provide new and correct information to the public. In reference to the "blocking of future editing by the public", this was only a question regarding the ways to stop false information in the future if possible, but we understand that the articles are not owned by anyone. We do not wish to use this forum for advertising purposes. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TIGI Bed Head (talk • contribs) 17:30, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

In that case, I would recommend that you post the information you want to add on the talk pages for the articles (go to the article and click "Discussion" at the top). There you can discuss such additions with other editors so as to prevent a conflict of interest. Leebo ^T/C 17:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

One of Wikipedia's core policies is that anyone, unless disruptive, is able to contribute. For that reason, we can't protect articles from editing until it's been demonstrated that the article needs to be protected from multiple, independent vandals. (Like, for instance, George W. Bush.) We have to deal with the insertion of false information on a case-by-case basis, through the procedures set out at our vandalism policy. There's nothing wrong with keeping an eye on the article with the intent to address vandalism as it occurs as long as you're careful not to maintain it too aggressively. It is possible that editors may insert material of which you do not approve, but as long as it meets our core policies such material should not be reverted. Articles must remain neutral, without positive or negative bias.

I will suggest that you utilize the edit summary when making changes—this is always good practice, but is especially important when your edits may be misinterpreted. It would also be an extremely good idea, as Leebo says, to announce your intended changes and your personal interest on the articles' talk pages before implementing them, as recommended in the conflict of interest policy. If you do this a day or so in advance of implementation it will reduce the likelihood that your intentions will be mistaken and that your edits will be ill received. In the event that your changes meet opposition, you will need to seek consensus, which shouldn't be that hard to achieve as long as your suggested changes are verifiable and properly sourced. Information you know but cannot prove must not be used, per our policy on original research. Good luck with your edits. :) --Moonriddengirl 17:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Knowing the author

how to know the author/s of a certain article found in wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.248.143 (talk) 15:50, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Go to the article and click on the History tab to see the list of changes made to the article and who made them. Leebo ^T/C 15:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

People who ask for authors often want to cite an article. If that is the case then see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. PrimeHunter 16:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

citation

I am writing an essay for school and was wondering how to site information from your site in APA format.

16:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Go to the article that you want to cite and click on the "cite this article" link on the left hand side of the page. That should give you all you need. If it doesn't then see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Dismas|^(talk) 16:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

It should be noted that many teachers and schools disallow the use of Wikipedia as a source (just as most would disallow the use of any tertiary source like an encyclopedia). Leebo ^T/C 16:05, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Leebo is, of course, spot on. :) If your teacher does not allow Wikipedia as a source, you may find it useful instead to follow the sources cited within the Wikipedia article and, if they suit your purposes, rely instead on those. --Moonriddengirl 16:18, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Do i have to include history

to make a page do i have to include history.mory1234 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.63.123.100 (talk) 16:41, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Making an article on Wikipedia you mean? A history page is automatically incorporated. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 17:28, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by history but the creator of a page does not have to do anyhting regarding history. The following is general help about page creation.

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter 17:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The Entry that speaks about my asks for sources

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Estrin

What do I need to add I am somewhat tech savvy but not sure what I need to site to give this entry the validity factor

Thank you

Joshua Estrin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.149.63.176 (talk) 16:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

First, if you are Joshua Estrin, note that under Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, it is recommended that you do not edit articles about yourself, or if you do, you mention that you did on the article's talk page. Furthermore, if you wish to establish the verifiability of your subject, then you would need to add information about yourself that has been published in reliable secondary sources. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 17:13, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Howto: text on left, table on right

Hi. I'm new to wikiing, and I would really like to create a page similar in layout to Usa. At the top you notice it has an introductory paragraph (beginning with The United States of America is a federal constitutional republic...) and on the right of that paragraph is a table with lots of information, the flag, etc.

I would like to accomplish this feat. I looked at the source for Usa, copied it, and pasted it in to my meadiawiki, but I don't get that table.

How can i get a table like that to 'float' on the right side of the page? I noticed that other articles have this as well, but none of them show up in the source, which makes me think that isn't really a table, but some spiffy feature i don't know about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.43.244 (talk) 16:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The infobox can be found at Template:Infobox Country. Happy editing. --Thw1309 17:19, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

See also Help:Template. PrimeHunter 17:27, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, i can create templates now, thanks. But how do i get it to 'float' on the right side? See how the template on teh right for USA goes as long as it does, then as soon as it finished, there is text under it? I dont think the whole page is in two separate tds.204.154.43.244 19:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Table#Floating table. PrimeHunter 21:18, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

How do we publish article on our company.

I represent a company called Wiredred Software. We would like to publish an article about our company. We do web conferencing software and are growing quickly. Our major competitors have articles about there products and about them selves. How do we do this. I've read the rules and it clearly states that the author may not write an article about their own company. So what do we do. Here is the text of what we would like to post.

WiredRed Software is a privately held company that provides on-premise software and online services for web conferencing, video conferencing and online meetings for business-to-business and educational applications. The Company is typically referred to as WiredRed, or by its product brand name, e/pop. HISTORY The Company was founded in 1998 by Allen Drennan, who formerly managed nationwide network operations for financial service institutions. Mr. Drennan believed personal computers would one day be more useful than reading static web pages, word documents and spreadsheets, and to do so, meant successfully communicating between multiple offices via proxies and firewalls. Mr. Drennan developed a multipoint communications framework, which can be loosely described as an application-specific VPN that allows several employees, across branch offices, to simultaneously transmit and receive data in real-time. The first application of this technology was pop-up messaging, initially sold under the WinPop brand. In 1999 the second generation was introduced as e/pop; and in 2001 several security and multi-server capabilities were added as this market segment evolved into enterprise instant messaging and became distinct from consumer IM services. In 2003 the Company applied its VPN-like technology to web and video conferencing, offering multipoint web, VoIP and video capabilities in a single, on-premise software executable set. The Company’s high-payload communications technology was well suited to this application. In 2005, the Company introduced an online service variation of its e/pop product, offering customers a choice of on-premise software or online service. Today (September, 2007), e/pop is a popular choice for online meetings where high-quality video and desktop sharing tools are required.

SOFTWARE & SERVICES e/pop product line: e/pop Web & Video Conferencing, on-premise software. e/pop provides multiparty web, VoIP and high-quality video conferencing over existing networks using PC-based video peripherals. The latter include standard USB webcams such as Logitech and Creative Labs, and any Windows DirectX video source such as Sony high-quality PTZ conference room cameras. e/pop can be used with HD capture cards (requires Windows DirectX device drivers) and high-definition cameras such as the Sony HD1. The online meeting host can select automated video quality which dynamically adjusts for variations in bandwidth; or manually select video size, quality and frame rate; picture-in-picture, tiled or floating videos. Note: while video is a prominent feature of e/pop, use of video is optional. The on-premise version requires a Windows server and a static IP address. e/pop Web & Video Conferencing, online services. Same as above, except that the server component is hosted by WiredRed on behalf of the customer. e/pop online services are generally suited for easy activation and applications that cannot be supported by internal networks.

EXTERNAL LINKS WiredRed home page. WiredRed technology milestones on SDSIC History of San Diego Software. Internet Archive, way back machine archive for WiredRed. Wainhouse Research Bulletin, November 2006, Video Conferencing Industry Rocks. Frost & Sullivan, Conferencing & Collaboration Research Service.

SIDEBAR:

Type Privately held company, California C-Corporation Founded 1998 Headquarters San Diego (United States)

Key people Allen Drennan, CTO & Founder Steven Peltier, CEO Industry Telecommunications software and services Products e/pop Web & Video Conferencing Revenue WND Employees WND Parent None Website http://www.wiredred.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlecBergamini (talk • contribs) 16:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

It is preferable that you do not write an article about your own company as per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. You may request that the article be created at Wikipedia:Requested articles. However, the primary criterion that your company must pass is Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), meaning that it must be the subject of several secondary sources, ergo establishing its notability. It should be noted, however, that these mentions must not be trivial - read Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criterion for more details. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 17:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Also see: Wikipedia:Business' FAQ, and here are some business-oriented wikis: wikiindex:Category:Business (Wikipedia is not the only game in town; there are lots of other wikis with different policies where you can develop an article). --Teratornis 03:29, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

For example, this page explains how a wiki called Wikicompany functions as a business directory rather than an encyclopedia. I'm not endorsing a particular alternative, just pointing out there are lots of them, and if you get tired of trying to get past Wikipedia's strict requirements, you might find another wiki that is more to your liking. --Teratornis 03:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Also it is possible to grease the wheels on Wikipedia to some extent. See: Wikipedia:Bounty board and Wikipedia:Reward board. --Teratornis 03:37, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Redirection giving a choice of more than one target page?

There already is a redirect page called "PTMS". If I edit that page by adding a second #REDIRECT line, pointing to an additional target page that I have already created, would this be allowed, and would it work (by allowing the reader to choose either of the two target pages)? My reason for wanting to do this is that "PTMS" is a comonly-used acronym for the topic described on my target page. Beckfoot 17:13, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

There can only be one working redirect on a name. See Wikipedia:Disambiguation for what can be done instead. PrimeHunter 17:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It would be preferable in that case to create a disambiguation page (see Wikipedia:Disambiguation) that would contain a list of possible targets. Alternatively, if one subject is more notable than another (which is usually decided by consensus amongst editors), then the redirect can lead to the more notable page, but a hatnote can be plcaed on the top of the page (see Wikipedia:Hatnote) with a link to the other page. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 17:26, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Posting new entry

I'm wondering what I click on to create a new entry? (technically how to do it, not content or writing tips) I've had trouble, even with the FAQ, getting this answer. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.3.166.160 (talk) 17:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The short answer is that you have to be logged in. You put the name of the article you want to create in the search box. Beneath where it says No page with that title exists is the red words "create this page". Click on that, and it opens the "edit" window. Again, however, you have to be logged in to create articles. Hope that helps. Now I'll launch into the form letter, just in case any of these policies prove useful to you. :D

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.--Moonriddengirl 18:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Lexicon Branding, Inc. Page is Missing

Hello-

I attempted to go the Lexicon Branding, Inc. page, but it seems to have been deleted. It says 'no page exists'. Did someone delete it? How do I locate the info that was on our page previously, so I can create a new page? Also, the link isn't visible anymore on the home page of Lexicon. I will need to redo that as well.

Thanks for your help!

Kaley —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.211.139.69 (talk) 18:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The page Lexicon Branding did not assert the notability of the company. As such it was deleted under speedy deletion criterion A7. You'll need to log in or create an account to create a new page. Lastly, Lexicon Branding does not belong on the lexicon page. Leebo ^T/C 18:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I also notice you have been spamming different pages with information on Lexicon Branding. Please review our spam guidelines. Leebo ^T/C 18:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

You can find all our spam guidelines at: WP:EIW#Spam. --Teratornis 03:38, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Also see: Why was my article deleted?. And check out the other wikis I mentioned in answer to a question above: wikiindex:Category:Business lists a few dozen, and Wikicompany looks interesting for businesses that do not meet Wikipedia's notability criteria. Wikipedia does not want an article about every company, but Wikicompany apparently does. --Teratornis 03:46, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Finding articles where I can help most

I have scattered periods of a few minutes or a few hours when my workload allows me to contribute to Wikipedia. I have been answering questions on the Reference Desk, but sometimes there are no questions that have not already been answered and that I am capable of answering. At these times, or perhaps in lieu of working on the Reference Desk, I would like to improve articles. However, I don't just want to copy-edit random articles that need copy editing. I would like to focus on articles in my areas of interest (e.g. Germany, New England, archeology, European history) where I could not only improve clarity and style but also spot and correct factual errors or misleading statements. Is there any way of zeroing in on articles in a given subject area in most need of help other than random browsing? Thanks. Marco polo 19:09, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Try SuggestBot. —Ignatzmice^talk_contribs 19:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Many Wikipedia:WikiProject's have ways of identifying articles within their realm that need work. Take Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany, for instance. In their sidebar, under "things you can do", I see a number of articles tagged for various improvements. :) --Moonriddengirl 19:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

history

Dear sir or madam,

                Do you know anything about Clifton Christ Church's history? I need the history 

desperately please help. Love, Solar Green xxxxxxx p.s please... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Solar green (talk • contribs) 20:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The reference desk is probably a good place to ask this question. Cheers, ( arky ) 20:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

DNA

WHY DNA POLYMERASE CAN NOT ADD NWE NUCLEOTIDE IN DIRECTION 3'-5' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.205.109.205 (talk) 21:05, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried the science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter 21:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

city and settlement infobox templates messed up

City and Settlement infoboxes are repeatedly displying small icons of the UK flag in inappropriate places. What's up with that? -- Sfmammamia 21:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Seems like the problem has been fixed: [3]. --Hdt83 ^Chat 23:30, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

about a book called the rosary by FLorence L. Barclay

I have the first edition of this Book and it has been signed in the inside of the cover with the old ink bottle ink with a feather in very fancy writting. it reads to Mrs Margaret Higgins from george april 22/11. and the book has a published date of G.P.Putnam's sons New York and London the Knickerbocker Press.could you please tell me the value of the Book. thank you Hurmit2003 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.233.123 (talk) 23:13, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

You should have the book appraised to determine that. Much of the value of a collectible book lies in its condition. However, you may be able to get some general idea if the book is generally collectible by asking at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --Moonriddengirl 23:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The reference desk is probably a good place to ask this question. I can tell you that the inscription in the front will have lowered its value, because it is not written by the author. One thing that anyone who tries to value this book will need to know is its condition -- books in good condition are worth more than books in poor condition, and since you haven't said anything about the condition, no one could give you a proper estimate. Your best bet is to take the book to a book dealer in your vicinity and see what they have to say -- or, you can list the book on eBay and see what it brings. Value does not always equal price. But I can tell you in general, you should be prepared for an answer of "zero". This is not a famous book or a famous writer. Accounting4Taste 23:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

RE: Hi there

Hi there,

I have edited some information on a page before, and was not aware that my IP could be traced publicly by so doing without an account, can you please notify me of how to proceed, to remove my IP from that list, and to create an account?

Thanks very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.51.107.209 (talk) 23:30, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

You can go to this page to create an account, but you agreed to license your contributions under the GFDL by contributing, so your IP address must be kept to attribute the edit you made. The only way it would be removed is if the article is deleted. However, you're not editing from the same IP address as you were then, since this is the only edit you have made from 72.51.107.209. Leebo ^T/C 00:03, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

October 5

How do I control drawing a box around text?

I'm editing an article (in a local Wiki, not Wikipedia) and some of the text has a dashed-line box drawn around it. After staring at the editing box a while, I finally figured out that starting a line with a space causes a dashed box to be drawn around it. But the text is running off the right side of the box (and beyond the right edge of the viewport too), rather than line-wrapping as I think it should.

Is there a way to draw a box around text but still have it auto-wrap to fit in the available width? Or do I have to force line breaks and make assumptions about how wide the viewer's window will be? Bgoldnyxnet 00:00, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

You can make a table with a single cell containing the text. That is what I did here. You can choose between many table formatting options and make a template if you want to use the same format multiple times. The dashed boxes when starting with a space are intentionally not line-wrapping. PrimeHunter 00:52, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Working with that same design, you can also set the width of the table to a certain percentage of the page - adding width="40%", for example, creates a much smaller box, as you can see here. That way you don't have to guess at the screen size - the computer figures it out for you.

Table with a relative width

Ta-da.

Help:Table can give you some more information about how to format your tables better. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Or use this simple style <pre style="width: 95%">Blah blah blah

--antilived^{T | C | G} 03:37, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

That doesn't line-wrap. PrimeHunter 09:18, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Personally I'd use a <div> with CSS styles.

<div style="border: 2px solid grey padding: 1em">Lorem ipsum dolor
 sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt
 ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud
 exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis
 aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu
 fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt
 in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.</div>

gives

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

--Kjoonlee 16:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

--Kjoonlee 16:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Edit summaries

--Hmb 00:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC) hi whow can change the title of a contribution thanks

Nope, sorry. Edit summaries are set in stone as soon as you make an edit. Chaos would ensue if people could :p Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 00:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmb didn't say edit summaries [4] and may have an article name in mind (specifically the just created DJA FM‎). Accounts that are at least 4 days old can move an article to another name. Which move do you want? PrimeHunter 00:37, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I recently moved this article from Dja fm to DJA FM, per WP:NAME. Did I make a mistake? --Agüeybaná 01:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

It looks OK to me. I didn't find "Dja fm" with Google. "Dja FM" and "DJA FM" both appear common. PrimeHunter 10:21, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Changing my wikipedia username away from my email address

I inadvertently created my email address as my wikipedia login. I want to change and don't understand the instructions on how to do this. Please help. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Henry vehovec@mindfirst.com (talk • contribs) 00:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a specific problem with the instructions at Wikipedia:Changing username? PrimeHunter 00:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Note that the request must be made at Wikipedia:Changing username which contains this link to make it. The people with ability to change your name will not see the request on your talk page. PrimeHunter 01:03, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Refs

Can someone please help change the the 2nd and 10th reference here to look like the 8th ref. (I want the words to replace the the url adress while linking to it) I seem to be unable to do that for some reason. Thanks Aeuio 01:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I have fixed them by removing the linebreak they contained. PrimeHunter 01:06, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. (I couldn't see the line break on my screen, it looked like a normal new row to me) Aeuio 01:16, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Daoism

What are the ethics and morality of Daoism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.72.104.231 (talk) 01:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Daoism. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that does not solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They will be glad to try and answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

"Social inequality" page

The page Social inequality is a redirect to List of social inequalities, which as you can see doesn't exist. I'm not sure what the best way to fix this is -- I found it though a discussion of Marx's views of religion, but there are around 100 pages with a wide variety that have a link there, and I'm not knowledgeable enough with the literature to be able to write up anything decent. (It's been in this shape since it created in June 2006.)--BlackAndy 01:53, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

That would be a candidate for speedy deletion by Criteria R1: Redirects to deleted pages and to nonexistent pages. It's gone now, but that's for future reference. :) --Moonriddengirl 02:08, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks much, and noted.:) ----BlackAndy 02:47, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Searching photos and diagrams

Is there a method to search and browse the photos used in Wikipedia, similar to that used in the Commons?KTo288 02:05, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Not easily. This link will give you a list of all images on Wikipedia, but in alphabetic order, so it's not the most efficient for searching for a particular subject. Some images are also listed at Category:Wikipedia images or one of the subcategories, which should be a little easier to search through, but it's by no means all-inclusive. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you'KTo288 02:25, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I believe that if you type a namespace into the search box, along with a search term, it will actually search that namespace (or give a remarkable facsimile of doing so). So, for example, try searching for (without quotes) "Image: hubble" to get all the images whose name or description includes "hubble". Confusing Manifestation 04:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

How to add other languages to a page if i want to translate them

I am a spanish-english linguist, and I am curious how to add spanish/english pages that mirror a previously written page in the other language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.63.207 (talk) 03:16, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

See WP:EIW#Transl. --Teratornis 03:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia:Spanish Translation of the Week. If you are not familiar with our WikiProjects, see: WP:PROJGUIDE. --Teratornis 03:57, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Having done a number of Spanish to English article translations (an example), I found the best method for finding good candidates is to look at articles tagged with {{FAOL}} for Spanish, which places them in Category:Wikipedia featured articles in other languages (Spanish). For more good candidates, you can explore the Spanish Wikipedia's equivalent of our featured article candidates page, at Es:Wikipedia:Candidatos a artículos destacados. Please feel free to drop by my talk page if you need any technical help with an article you are or wish to translate, such as with formatting, converting references, and the like.--Fuhghettaboutit 05:03, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

What is the difference between these two images?

Why is Image:17_lachey_360x240.jpg a candidate for speedy deletion? I've listed where it came from. It is no different than Image:Ricedwts.jpg because they both come from the same website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by And1987 (talk • contribs) 04:03, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Both images need fair use rationales. You really shouldn't have taken off the speedy deletion template without rectifying the problem. Leebo ^T/C 04:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

What to do when falsely accused?

Today, for the second time, I have received a notice to STOP VANDALIZING Wikipedia, or I will be barred from editing Wikipedia.

My sole contribution is a pie crust edit in March of 2006.

The notion of labeling a pie crust edit as “vandalism” is beyond the pale.

I view Wikipedia is an excellent first source of information, and would never harm such a valuable resource. I do not speak or write in vulgarisms, and do not curse. I have never, knowingly, posted inaccurate information. More importantly, I know the difference between fact and opinion.

For reasons that I do not understand, a nameless and faceless (and overzealous) accuser is threatening to end my rights to edit Wikipedia, although I have done nothing to him/her(or to Wikipedia) past breathing and minding my own business.

Our Founding Fathers included the right to face one’s accuser and the right to examine evidence.

The “user talk” # was 4.242.195.137.

Please let me know how to defend myself against these false accusations.

Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suttonplacesouth (talk • contribs) 04:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

No one's posted you any messages. 4.242.195.137 hasn't made any edits since the middle of September. —Ignatzmice^talk_contribs 04:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you trying to say that User talk:4.242.195.137 was the IP address you were using? Did you consider the possibility that the IP address is shared and the message was not meant for you? Leebo ^T/C 04:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Mice: That is precisely my point. I haven't made an edit for 18 months (since March of '06) so I don't understand why anything would show any "edits since the middle of September." There is no doubt they have the wrong person; the notion of vandalism is preposterous.

Leebo: I do not know what a "shared IP address" means. This is my own computer in my own house and I don't "share" anything with anyone. I assume that when I log in with my name and password, that the name and address listed as mine, is for me and no one else. How could it have "not been for me" if it was on my computer? Thanks for advice on how to get this person to stop scolding me and find the actual person who is vandalizing.

As to where that number came from, I'll be more specific. Today, at about noon, I was looking for something on Wikipedia and I noticed a "message alert" (I used Wikipedia late last night and there was no message at that time). When I clicked to get the message, I was taken to “talk page # 4.242.195.137" (which I wrote down so I could get back to it, because sometimes I have a "nervous finger" and accidentally click off), but now I find that I don’t even know how to get back to the page where I can “plug in” a page number. The person who signed the order to "STOP VANDALIZING or else. . . . " had a one word screen name, but I don’t remember what it was, and I can’t get back to the page number, to see what his/her name was. I do not know who owns that page or number (# 4.242.195.137) but it is not familiar to me. Anyway, I was upset for being threatened, and tried to figure out what to do, and went “noodling” around, trying to find someone who could help me, but then I couldn’t get back to the Wikipedia “talk pages” to get back to that page again. Eventually I found THIS topic page. But, now I'm realizing that even if I find the person who is "reporting" me as vandalizing, I don't know how to get him to back off and go after the real vandals, since I don't know what he is looking at. Somehow, he has me confused with someone else, but I can't figure out how that is possible. Certainly our names and email addresses are separate, aren't they? IOW, there can't be another person who has my screen name and email address the same as mine, so what is this guy/gal looking at, to send incorrect messages to me, saying that I am vandalizing when, in fact, I’m not even editing, let alone vandalizing? Thanks again; I'm befuddled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suttonplacesouth (talk • contribs) 08:34, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

OK here's what happened: when you saw that message, you weren't logged in. Your internet provider allocates you an Internet Protocol address (IP), and that's the number that Wikipedia uses to identify you if you aren't logged in. The vandalism warning was recorded against that IP address, which your internet provider had probably assigned to someone else last week. In other words, the warning wasn't addressed to you, and the message probably needs to be clarified to make this clear in the case of IP addresses. — PhilHibbs | talk 09:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it's likely that a dynamic IP addressing system is being used by your ISP. You can stop these messages by creating an account as you have done so (unless, of course, you vandalise on that account). x42bn6 Talk Mess 11:58, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

The message in question is from 2005, Suttonplacesouth just got confused by a message that was meant for someone else 2 years ago because his IP address changed. Leebo ^T/C 12:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Embedding videos on Wikipedia (Please WB ASAP!!!)

Is there a chance that we may soon be able to embed videos from YouTube, LiveDigital, Google Video and other sites on Wikipedia articles??? WIKIVUE Detroit (talk) FRI OCT 05 2007 12:33 AM EDT

Probably no.Kfc1864 talk _{my edits} 05:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia has never used links to media hosted elsewhere, if it's free content then it can be hosted on Wikimedia servers. — PhilHibbs | talk 09:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

However, in the cases when it's appropriate to link to a YouTube video as a reference, there is the {{YouTube}} template. The content may be legal on YouTube, but not sufficiently free for us to have it on our servers. Thus we just link it. Just don't link to copyright violations. --Pekaje 10:08, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean like this? The MediaWiki software can embed videos using extensions such as mw:Extension:VideoFlash, mw:Extension:YouTube (Iubito), and mw:Extension:EmbedVideo. See: mw:Extension:VideoFlash#Wikis using videoflash for some wikis that let you embed videos. Perhaps you can use one of them as an outlet for your urge to embed videos on wiki pages. Wikipedia tends to be a bit stodgy about providing such capabilities, because after all, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and as I recall from my days of childhood, encyclopedias were not exactly cool. When I told my peers that I used to read the encyclopedia, they rolled their eyes and mocked me. How remarkable that an encyclopedia today can actually be trendy. I suppose that in light of Moore's law, the Revenge of the Nerds is inevitable. --Teratornis 13:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Braddock, PA article

The link to the Braddock Carnegie Library should be www.braddocklibrary.org

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.167.3.95 (talk) 04:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). PrimeHunter 09:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

How to view and edit pages in malayalam wiki?

when i open pages in malayalam wiki i am not able to see the script what software i need to install ---from where to download it. i am a new user can any body help me out —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gowrikutty (talk • contribs) 04:51, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Help:Multilingual support (Indic) should help. - BanyanTree 10:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Can I recover my user name

I had a mental block and couldn't remember my password, so I clicked on the option to email me a new one. then remembered I had changed my email address a short while ago, hadn't updated to the new one on wiki and the new password email will have bounced. so now I am completely stuck. Any suggestions of how I can get to someone, prove I'm who I say I am, change the email to my new address and continue with my user name? I like it so much I don't want to start all over with a new one just because of a minute of brain fade. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.155.28.49 (talk) 06:28, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Help:Logging in#What if I forget the password? says you have to create a new account. You can link to the old account on a new user page. PrimeHunter 09:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

If you have any way to access the old email account, you could just send a new password reminder after regaining access (you may have to wait 24 hours first if you do this). Otherwise, it's unlikely that you'll be able to regain access to the account, because it's very difficult to demonstrate your identity. --ais523 12:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

The new password doesn't invalidate your old password. --Kjoonlee 16:46, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

adding in peer revieew

Can anyone help me out in adding my image in peer review? --Cj.samson 06:30, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

advertising

i am a marketing major and was wondering about how to find time to speak with people on how to promote my ideas of drunk driving commercials to the government agencies who create the driving responsibly commercials, if you could give me a website or anything it would be of great help.

Thanks, 72.177.104.29 07:45, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Note that Wikipedia is not a soapbox for advertising purposes. That said, it would be best if you directed your question to the reference desk. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 07:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you want to write pages on a wiki as part of your promotional strategy? That is not clear from your question. If you do, then you should look for another wiki which does accept promotional material. --Teratornis 15:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Starting an article

If you have a notable subject you want to write an article about like say a play, if you were the writer of the play, can you still write an article about it? ~ Bella Swan 13:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello, what's the subject you want to talk about? Martial BACQUET 13:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia discourages people from writing about things for which they are heavily involved, as it can be difficult to create a neutral article (cf conflict of interest). Creating something like a simple dictionary definition wouldn't be a problem. --h2g2bob (talk) 13:34, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks guys. WP:COI was exactly what I needed. Regards ~ Bella Swan 21:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Current version

I modified an article, and my changes are shown in the 'current version'

However, when I look for the article from the 'search' box, it shows an earlier version. To find the current version I have to go to 'history' and click on the current version.

Shouldn't the search engine direct you to the current version automaticaly?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.64.200.73 (talk) 14:24, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

The search function always takes you to the current version. You probably have to bypass your cache. A click on the most recent version in the history gives a permanent link to that version and has a different URL to the live article so your cache don't treat the two URL's the same. PrimeHunter 14:31, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Transclude a list of articles in a category?

This is more of general Mediawiki question, but is it possible to transclude the list of articles that are contained in a given category? TIA... jddphd (talk · contribs) 14:38, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

See mw:Extension:CategoryTree for instructions. An example and code for it:

Wikipedia Adopt-a-user

Help desk archives

Wikipedia Teahouse

Wikipedia village pump

Wikipedians looking for help

Wikipedians looking for help from administrators

Wikipedians looking for help with UTRS

Wikipedians with misplaced help messages

Wikipedia:Questions

Wikipedia:Admin coaching

Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk

Wikipedia:Coaching

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Computing/Early

Wikipedia:Editor assistance

Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests

Wikipedia:Help desk

Wikipedia:Help desk/Header/sandbox

Wikipedia:Instructional material

User:FlightTime/IRC

Wikipedia:IRC

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Mattermost

Wikipedia:IRC/Channel access and configuration guide

Wikipedia:Lectures

Wikipedia:Mailing lists

Wikipedia:Media copyright questions

Wikipedia:Mentoring for FAC

Wikipedia:New contributors' help page/questions

Wikipedia:Reference desk

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Mathematics

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science

Wikipedia:Teahouse

Wikipedia:Teahouse/About

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Guest lft

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Guests

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Guests/Left column

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Guests/Right column

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Header/testcases

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host breakroom

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host checkin about

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host lounge/Category guide

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host lounge/User scripts

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host start

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Hosts

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Hosts/Database reports

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Hosts/Database reports/Automated invites

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions-recent

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Suggestions

Wikipedia:Teahouse/The menu

Wikipedia:Teahouse/WikiProjects

Wikipedia:Village pump

Wikipedia:WikiProject Cooperation/Paid editor help

{{#categorytree:Wikipedia help forums|hideroot|mode=pages}}

Hope that helps! --ais523 14:50, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

white tiger wikipedia article

Dear Wikipedia: Any change I make to the white tiger article is being deleted within minutes or hours. Also somebody other than myself made a significant contribution to the article by explaining the connection with tyrosinase and white tigers and Siamese cats getting darker in cold. This tied in beautifully with why white tigers react strangely to anaesthesia. Lots of other solid factual information has been deleted and characterized as vandalism. I'll give you another example. I wrote that mice have been inbred brother to sister for 150 generations without ill effect, but they end up 99.999% genetically identical. I included this line in the section on inbreeding more than once. It has been deleted within minutes or hours by some ignorant person. I have added lots of information to a great many wikipedia articles. I have not had any problems before. Now anything I write is deleted and I see that what another person contributed, about tyrosinase, which greatly improved the article ( that was'nt me who wrote it, but I wish I could take credit for it) naturally disappeared within less than 24 hours and the article reverted to the previous much less informative version. I think I will just stop working on wikipedia articles. It's too frustrating when a lot of good effort is flushed down the toilet by Phillistines or Neanderthals. Somebody called CambridgeBayWeather has been largely responsible, but not him exclusively. Please fire these peoople or block them. They are destroying wikipedia. They are dumbing everything down to their own level. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.1.195.4 (talk) 14:55, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Apparently CambridgeBayWeather has reverted some unsourced edits. That is unlikely to lead to a block. If you give reliable sources to your edits then they are more likely to be accepted by other editors. See also Wikipedia:Verifiability. The best place to discuss the article is Talk:White tiger. If that doesn't work out then see other options at Wikipedia:Resolving disputes. PrimeHunter 15:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Sen. Brownback's page

I was just wanting to change the election information. There is a bit of it that is not truthful and that does not cite any sources. can you help me in how to change it? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tfunk198605 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Just go to the page and click the "edit this page" tab at the top. You can take out unsourced information, but be sure to cite sources if you add any new information. Leebo ^T/C 16:03, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

ancient writtings

while hunting i stumbled on a small boxed canyon in the far n. corner nev. i found some very old writings. i drew them on paper. i saw no real disturbance of encroachment of human actievty. an thought it odd, maybe a new find ? dought that. so who would i contact?im not a student just some old guy asking questions. maybe you could direct me in the right direction. thankyou dc reno —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.78.17.231 (talk) 16:01, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

This page is for help with using Wikipedia. Perhaps someone at the reference desk could point you in the right direction. Leebo ^T/C 16:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

For general background, see: petroglyph and rock art. If by "nev." you mean Nevada, you might contact the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources. --Teratornis 11:20, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

editing problems

Insert non-formatted text here

Do you have a question? --ais523 18:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

editing problems

HOW DO YOU EDIT A PAGE WITHOUT AN [edit] BUTTON NEARBY?!?!?!?!?!!????? can anyone answer me that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.228.94.19 (talk) 18:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Use the 'edit this page' tab on top of the page. --ais523 18:40, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

If you don't have an Edit button, you may be working with an old version of the page. Make sure you're on the correct one before using the tab at the top.--SarekOfVulcan 18:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Somehow the user was able to edit this very page to ask his question, so how come he couldn't find the "edit this page" button on other pages? My guess is that he was trying to edit a page that was protected and instead had a "view source" button. Sbowers3 23:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

If you look at the revision history for this ip's first edit here. it has a greyed out message, meaning he or she clicked on an [edit] tab beside a section header, which is exactly consistent with the question asked, and his or her's lack of knowledge of the edit this page tab.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:38, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't "casinos" link to the Casino article?

Most people searching for "casinos" would be looking for an article about casinos. I doubt as many users would be searching for the municipality of Casinos, Valencia, so there doesn't seem to be much use in having a disambiguation here. 172.213.140.182 19:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Every plural that I can think of redirects to the singular for common terms. Casinos just happens to have an alternate meaning, therefore the disambiguation is put in. Dismas|^(talk) 19:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Brian Collins page

Hi, I just added a page for Brian Collins and linked it to the Massachusetts College of Art page under Notable Alumni. However, when I click on the MassArt link for Brian's name, it redirects to a page called "internet Phenomena" Can you help please?

Thanks,

Jimmysmith100 19:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Brian Collins is a redirect to the Internet phenomena article because there was no other notable individual with the name Brian Collins. If you want to create an article for this Brian Collins, you could probably create a disambiguation page for Brian Collins which links to both articles. Leebo ^T/C 19:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh wait... you created Brian collins with a lower case "c". Leebo ^T/C 19:47, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Brian Collins is mentioned in the Internet phenomena article (see the Video section of the article). There was probably once an article about Collins but he was deemed non-notable, thus a redirect was put in for his only notable contribution to society. Dismas|^(talk) 19:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Why no images?

Today there are no images appearing in any page. Always have before. Still see images in other web sites. Is there a particular setting/preference in Wikipedia to view images?

Thanks Djidji6 21:24, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. Figured it out myself. Djidji6 21:49, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Logging on

Your system refuses to log m,e on saying that I don't exist —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.74.85.146 (talk) 22:01, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

What Username are you trying to log on under? Woodym555 22:06, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

How to deal with Incorrect Redirection

When you type in 'Battle of Montreal' on the search box, you are directed to a list of items and it states that no page with that title exists. I recently did a report on the Battle of Montreal and have many sources gathered, so I would like to write a page, but there is already a page entitled Battle of Montreal, only it is an ambiguation page.

It comes with this message: This disambiguation page lists articles associated with the same title. If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change the link to point directly to the intended article.

How should I proceed? Should I just create a new article and not worry about the disambiguation page?

Rain1337 23:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

The page does exist, it's Battle of Montreal. Even though it's not a standard "article", the page does indeed exist. But there are several things that may be referred to as the Battle of Montreal and each has its own article. If you would like to write about another battle which is known as the Battle of Montreal, then please do so under a different title but add a link to that article onto the list of the battles that are already listed. If your report is about one of the battles already listed, I would suggest adding your information to the appropriate sections of the article that already exists and not starting your own article about the same thing. Dismas|^(talk) 23:25, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

When did the battle you wish to write about take place? Woodym555 23:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I am writing about another seperate battle known as the Battle of Montreal, which occurred on November 12, 1775, it is different than the other three battles. Thank you for your help, I will create a new article titled The Battle of Montreal and add it to the list of battles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rain1337 (talk • contribs) 23:40, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

You will have to create something along the lines of Battle of Montreal (1775) or a specific battle name if it had one. You cannot write one at Battle of Montreal because it is needed as a disambiguation page. Ask me on my talk page or on here if you need any help. Woodym555 23:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

New question: Battle of Montreal (1775) redirects you to the Battle of Longue-Pointe, will I mess anything up by editing the B o M 1775 page and taking off the redirection? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rain1337 (talk • contribs) 23:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Is the Battle of Longue-Pointe not the article that you are looking to edit? If you are sure that they are not the same then click on the link under the page title on Battle of Longue-Pointe, under the "From Wikipedia..." it will say redirected from..., just edit that page over the redirect and create your article. Are you sure that they are different events. Woodym555 23:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I am 99% positive, all the sources I've seen have completely different dates, commanders, and troops for the two battles. Thanks again for your help. --Rain1337 23:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure there was a real battle on November 12? Battle of Longue-Pointe is about a battle at Montreal on September 24 1775. The end says "In November, Montgomery occupied Montreal without firing a shot." I found sources saying Montreal was captured November 12 but they didn't mention a battle. PrimeHunter 00:03, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

October 6

Propaganda disguised as information

I am seriously concerned with the level of false and inflammatory propaganda exhibited in articles on the Middle East.

One featured article, "Wrath of God," was based on a discredited hoax. Others -- such as a featured story on Morcecai Vununu -- are entirely dominated by raging, anti-Israel, pro-Arab, propagandists. (My favorite wikigandist is "Zero")

Last year, I began an article on the Siege of Jerusalem (1948), but gave up because I realized that the propandists would never allow it to be maintained -- Arab propaganda opposes mention of the siege because it embarrasses their cause.

My questions -- Why doesn't Wikipedia doublecheck factually challenged articles? If Wikipedia can't maintain the quality of its Middle East articles, why not spin the topics off into a separate wiki? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.5.64.178 (talk) 00:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is based on the idea of shared responsibility and continual upkeep of articles. Mordechai Vanunu is not featured. It was, but it was subsequently defeatured because it did not meet the criteria, mainly because there were not enough citations. Operation Wrath of God is featured because it meets all the criteria in the eyes of the reviewers. Looking through that article, it is a balanced account of what happened and it cites published, reliable sources. It seems to me to be neutral. What exactly do you have a problem with on these articles. Make specific points on the talk pages of the article concerned if you feel there is a problem. Woodym555 00:18, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

notoriety requirements

I have searched everywhere for Wiki's guidelines to notoriety requirements or notability requirements. This is in regards to Famous Business - of a particular city. Can someone point me to the correct article or information regarding these requirements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.63.105.152 (talk) 00:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:BUSINESS. Mistake, try WP:CORP instead. -Icewedge 00:14, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Script error/lost connection while trying to view Wikipedia

Over the last three weeks or so, most everytime I have tried to view a Wikipedia entry, the screen freezes and I have recieved a script error message from Internet Explorer. I have never had these problems before with this site.

Sometimes I would automatically lose my internet connection.

Over the past few days I have not recieved the script error message, but it is still freezing and I am still losing my connection.

This only happens when I use wikipedia.

My ISP is AOL. Thank you very much for any help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.22.199 (talk) 02:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

AOL is a proxy (I think), it may have been blocked. Try https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Special:Userlogin. —Ignatzmice^talk_contribs 03:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, AOL is a proxy when it's used as an ISP (I, for instance, have AOL, but use a local cable provider as my ISP). Could be blocked. Probably best to create an account, in any event. I strongly suggest against using AOL's internal browser. For Wikipedia, Firefox is my browser of choice, but Internet Explorer works well (outside of AOL) too. If you use IE and you still get script errors, you might consider disabling scripts in it. Into The Fray ^T/C 04:55, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

how to change "in other languages box" ?

there is a misstake in the page http://eng.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adage —Preceding unsigned comment added by Otij (talk • contribs) 03:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

If you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adage -- it's fine, technologically speaking. If there's something wrong with the article... Be bold. Fix it. Into The Fray ^T/C 04:50, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

The French link is right. See [5] and Help:Interwiki linking#Interlanguage link. PrimeHunter 09:06, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I have a question about notability

I just got a Wiki account and I'd like to create a page, but I have a question about notability. I'd like to begin an article on my high school. It is Gilmer County High School, a division A high school in West Virginia. I know enough about it to start an article, but I'm not sure if it's notable enough, I need some guidelines on notabliity. Christianmetalcore 04:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I believe that all high schools are considered notable, but am sure that someone will correct me if I'm wrong about that. I seem to remember reading where primary schools were perhaps not notable. Certainly, Wikipedia has a lot of high school pages. I would suggest you start by creating the page User:Christianmetalcore/sandbox there first, bring it up to snuff, then putting it in the article space. Cheers. Into The Fray ^T/C 04:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

THANK YOU for asking here instead of just creating it and getting mad if someone does somthing to it. For that I think you should be "allowed" to create it. —Ignatzmice^talk_contribs 04:47, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

(ec) You might want to look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools for information about how to format a school article. WODUP 04:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Although the Proposed Policy is now defunct, you may want to take a look at this old school policy proposal. Perfect Proposal ^{Speak out loud!} 16:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Elephant Intelligence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_intelligence This page seems to contain very suspicious information with no reference to credible sources. How do I flag it/report for check?

Quote: "In the 1970’s at Marine World Africa, U.S.A, there lived an Asian elephant named Bandula"

Senya —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.98.200.2 (talk) 07:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

First, check the history of the article to make sure that the article hasn't been vandalized recently. If it doesn't seem to be vandalism, and you want to mark that there are no references in the entire article, put {{Unreferenced}} at the top and explain your concerns on the article discussion page. If you wish to challenge particular assertions, add {{fact}} after each assertion. If no one has sourced or otherwise addressed challenged assertions after a reasonable amount of time (a week would be more than sufficient), they may simply be removed. - BanyanTree 10:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

The article has some references although they are not formatted as they should be. Suspicious information with no reference can be tagged with {{fact}} or another template in Category:Citation and verifiability maintenance templates. In some cases it should be removed right away. PrimeHunter 14:20, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

• In my time at Wikipedia I've seen a lot of suspicious looking info turn out to be true. Have you tried to find a source yourself? - Mgm|^(talk) 11:08, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

A suggestion for re-titling an entry

There's an entry for 'The British School' on Wikipedia. I don't want to undo any good work that people have been doing on this particular page but I've written the following in the 'talk' section of the above page suggesting the entry might be better titled.

"I suggest that editors take a look at the titling, 'The British School', of this entry. There is no umbrella organisation that I'm aware of that links the schools listed under this entry together, nor have they a common policy or common examination system. There are various associations of international schools in existence but they are commercial rather than governmental in nature.

As this entry stands it implies that there is semi-official or even official British government recognition of any institution with 'The British School...' somewhere in its name and accordingly that it enjoys some kind of special government-approved status. This is simply not the case.

A better title might be 'British Schools Abroad' and qualification for listing might be that any school listed teaches the National Curriculum of England and Wales but outside the UK, AND is registered with the DCSF (Department for Children, Schools and Families) in the UK.''

I'd like to know what moderators think about the suggestion.

Artdesigns2006 08:10, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

You can go to Wikipedia:Requested moves to get more input on the requested renaming of an article from people experienced with article renames. (Note that wikipedia doesn't have 'moderators', by the way; anyone can edit anything with only a few exceptions. There are 'administrators' who can do things like delete articles, but it's a different sort of role.) --ais523 17:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, ais523, for your help.

Artdesigns2006 04:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

query

how to make a search —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.190.148.3 (talk) 08:20, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

To search Wikipedia, write something in the search box to the left and click Search. See more at Wikipedia:Searching. PrimeHunter 08:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

log in

wikipedia tells me that I have an account but I cannot log in. What do I do ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.213.142.245 (talk) 09:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

What is your user name? And see Help:Logging in. PrimeHunter 09:50, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Moving the references

Has there been a proposal about moving references (which takes up more than half of the page in some articles) into their own place or module, much like any comment or question about the article is located in the "discussion" module? Could someone point me to a discussion of this sort? Thank you. CG 11:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Not that I'm aware of. You could always hide them in a collapsible box, but I don't know whether that would conform to the MoS. Recommend that you ask your question here: Wikipedia talk:Citing sources. Into The Fray ^T/C 14:04, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

• That would make linking to the correct sentence to the correct source a pain, and accidentally deleting sources without people noticing too easy. What is wrong with putting them near the bottom? - Mgm|^(talk) 11:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Spamming user

User:EmmaPJs is a new accout that has created a spam article and added spam links as the user's only edits. I do not wish to deal with this myself right now. Where is the correct place to ask for someone to engage this user in a dialogue? -Arch dude 11:54, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

You can probably start at WP:ANI. Dismas|^(talk) 12:06, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, I've put a deletion tag on the one article that they created and reverted the rest of their changes. Dismas|^(talk) 12:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Who is this boy?

I need to know who this boy is.

File:Color good- enhanced.jpg

--Rooedstuurdel 13:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

The Help Desk is for questions about editing Wikipedia, not for identification of random photos that you upload. Into The Fray ^T/C 13:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

So much for your help desk, not very helpful indeed. Sod ya then! --Rooedstuurdel 13:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

In accordance with Wikipedia's policy of protecting living people, I have deleted this photograph of an underage person you uploaded but don't know the identity of and which you now, here, have displayed on a public forum for identification for unknown purposes.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:45, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeh whatever fuck off --Rooedstuurdel 13:54, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't think you applied this policy entirely correctly. It is a copyright issue. If this kid was likely to be famous, he could've uploaded the picture temporarily to ask a refdesk question despite BLP. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:02, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Wow are you not not contextualizing. When you find a mysterious package in a sensitive area, you remove it assuming it is a bomb. Under different circumstances where such concerns aren't raised it might just be a litter law issue. Must I spell it out?--Fuhghettaboutit 15:41, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

tamadum islam

bincangkan maksud politik menurut perspektif islam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.26.136.5 (talk) 15:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

please speak english on the english wikipedia.--Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 15:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

• We're always happy to help, but it can take quite some time for someone to come by who understands the language. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:57, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Meningitis

Is Menengitis a reoccuring disease? Can a person contact this more than one time ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.2.66.212 (talk) 18:04, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Meningitis. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that does not solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They will be glad to try and answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. --Moonriddengirl 18:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Note however that Wikipedia does not give medical advice. PrimeHunter 21:29, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

• Meningitis can have many underlying causes, including a variety of viruses. So I would expect it to be possible for someone to contract two different bacteria that cause meningitis on different occasions. Your immune system would be no good because it would recognize the virus, not the disease. In short: yes, quite possible. P.S. THis is a reference desk question. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Red links

sometimes when am using wikipedia books i find some lines written by red colour .how could i reach those texts and read them ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Damnedchou (talk • contribs) 18:07, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

When a link to a page is red, it means that the page has not been created yet, or it has been deleted; in short, red-linked pages don't exist. However, if you wish to create it, you can make that red link turn blue :) Happy editing, ( arky ) 19:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

See more at Wikipedia:Red link. PrimeHunter 21:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Coloured Tables

hi,

basically: how do make the various 'bits' of a (wiki)table coloured eg like here? i tried to go and pretend edit the table but its something stupid that i dont understand so i cant find out that way

thanks, --Plague of Death 19:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Table#Color; scope of parameters. PrimeHunter 21:25, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Transistor History

There is an error (an understandable one) in the Wikipedia Transistor History. It states there that Gordon Teal made the first silicon transistor. I first came across this error in "Crystal Fire" (Riordan and Hoddeson). I contacted Riordan and provided him evidence that the first silicon transistor was made BY Tanenbaum et al at Bell Labs. (This work was published in the Journal of Applied Physics but overlooked.) Riordan corrected that error in his article "The Lost History of the Tansistor" (Spectrum, 41, pp. 48-49 2004) but it has found its way into Wikipedia.

While these two events were significant, the event that started the Silicon Age was the invention of the diffused base silicon transistor by Tanenbaum and Fuller in 1955. The use of diffusion technology greatly simplified manufacture and was the technology later used by Noyce and Little in their invention of integrated circuitry

How can I contact the person repsonsible for the Transistor History artcle and clarify these matter.

Morris Tanenbaum —Preceding unsigned comment added by Morristanenbaum (talk • contribs) 21:24, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to change it. You can edit almost any article on Wikipedia by just following the Edit link at the top of the page. We encourage you to be bold in updating pages, because wikis like ours develop faster when everybody edits. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. You can always preview your edits before you publish them or test them out in the sandbox. If you need additional help, check out our getting started page or ask the friendly folks at the Teahouse. Dismas|^(talk) 21:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Linking an article with the one in the other language

How can I link an article with the one in other language? The article about the same thing, that while reading the article, down there in the languages menu on the left would be the link to the same article in another language. Thanx —Preceding unsigned comment added by BohaVasho (talk • contribs) 22:26, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Just use the language prefix, e.g. [[de:article name]] for the German Wikipedia. Which article do you want to link? Richard001 23:42, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

The Beatmen - with the one in Slovak wikipedia. But I was probably misunderstood, I mean, when an article is available in more languages, there is a menu on the left, where the other languages are possible - espanol, deutch, cesky.... I mean that by my article "The Beatmen", there would be a link "Slovak" (Slovensky). - and as well on the slovak one there would be a link "English".

See: Help:Interlanguage links. --Teratornis 14:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Name clashes at Commons

The category Category:Images with another image under the same name on Wikimedia Commons doesn't explain what one should do if one can't link to the picture wanted. Is there some additional code I can add to, e.g. thumb, to link to the Commons version? Richard001 23:42, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

It does actually tell you what to do, but it's a rather complicated and annoying process. Basically, you need to save the local version to your computer, upload it to the Commons with the same copyright information under a different name, then tag the local one with {{ShadowsCommons}} so it can be deleted, thus finally freeing up the image you want to use. Unfortunately, that whole process is likely going to take several hours at best, up to a week or so at worst. Sorry, there's really no easy way about it. Using commons:Image:Secale cereale.jpg just produces a link. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:48, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Richard001 03:00, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

art

I am a venezuelan artist,how can I be on the list of venezuelan artist?

eugenio espinoza —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.251.229.161 (talk) 23:55, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

If you meet our notability standards as defined WP:BIO, you can request that someone else write an article about you. It is strongly discouraged to make edits or create pages in reference to yourself, as this creates a conflict of interest that usually isn't very neutral. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. You may give me what you want on the article, and I will tweak it if necessary, if you would like. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathan (talk • contribs) 03:50, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

October 7

Question

are there are no forums in wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.214.97.221 (talk) 05:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

We have forum for development of an article but not on the subject in the article. You may see a discussion tab on each page. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 06:53, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Talk page to learn about how we discuss things on talk pages. (You will see "talk" and "discussion" to mean the same thing - an instance of synonym disease on Wikipedia.) (In addition to talk pages for articles, we have lots of other pages for discussing other things; you can find some by browsing to the Editor's index and doing a ctrl-F search in your browser for "forum", "talk", and "discuss". Also see WP:EIW#News.) Someday our talk pages may get some of the forum features you are probably used to, while maintaining the advantages of wikitext markup; see: mw:Extension:LiquidThreads. --Teratornis 13:57, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Adding button

is there any code which can add some extra buttons like, Support, Oppose, Comment, Done, Not Done, Question . This may help while commenting in FAC, PR and other places. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 06:53, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

• You want Wikipedia:User scripts. I have additional buttons in my edit bar and it is even further customizable. I think the script was made by User:MarkS. Someone also created a script for AFC that might be adapted to other processes. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:50, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Small print

While I was viewing wikipedia, the print suddenly got very small and I can't figure out how to get it back to the way it was. I treid clearing my browser footprints, but it didn't help. Please advise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrickhahn (talk • contribs) 11:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Assuming you're using Internet Explorer, you probably held down the ctrl key and used your mouses' scrol wheel, which will change the text size of every website you visit. Hold down control and move your mousewheel towards you to reverse this effect, or go to view (it's next to "file" and "edit") --> text size --> whatever size you want —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ybbor (talk • contribs) 13:31, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Question from David Brown - Organic Chemist

I am interested in your Wikipedia "list of chemists", which contains an alphabetical listing of several (both living and deceased) chemists. Upon noticing that several famous chemists were missing from your list, I began typing in their names individually into the search box only to find that they do indeed have their biographies already on Wikipedia, but their names are not linked to the list of chemists. How can I edit the list of chemists to add the names of these chemists to their existing biographies, so that their names will appear on and be linked to the list?

Currently I have never signed in with a Wikipedia username and password. Should I do that in order to be able to contribute and to view your response?

Thanks in advance for your help.

David Brown Organic Chemist 72.154.32.91 13:49, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey David! Adding a particular page to any category is simple; on the article, add the following: [[Category:List of chemists]] to the bottom. Of course, you'd change the name of the category for whichever you were doing. As for registering an account, it's definitely not required, but we do encourage it for the benefits it provides, including hiding your IP number, which is much safer. Happy editing! GlassCobra (Review) 13:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the question seems to be about the List of chemists article rather than about adding individual articles about chemists to a category. List pages differ from category pages in that human editors manually edit the list pages, while the MediaWiki software that powers Wikipedia generates category pages from those [[Category:...]] links in individual articles. See: WP:EIW#Lists for everything you could want to know about lists, and WP:EIW#Cat for categories. David, before you dive into editing real articles, you may want to check out the tutorial and cheat sheet. Also, if you do create an account, you will have your very own talk page where we can leave helpful instructions for you. --Teratornis 14:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Also, if you create an account, you can join Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry, and coordinate your editing work on Chemistry-related articles with other chemists. But this is optional. --Teratornis 14:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

And if all the above sounds too complicated and you just want to fix the missing items on the List of chemists article now, you can leave a note on Talk:List of chemists with the names of the chemists you want to add, and someone with more Wikipedia-editing experience will add them for you. It will help if you type the chemists' names as links to their articles, like this: [[Antoine Lavoisier]], so the next person will be sure we do have an article with that exact title, by seeing the link: Antoine Lavoisier. --Teratornis 14:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Finding More Information about References Citations

How do you find out more information abotu references cited in the srticles? For instance, if you search for <Alois Podhajsky> there is an article. At the bottom of the article are references that come from footnotes in the article. How can I find the full name or identification for those references so that I can do further research? billseq Billseq 14:31, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello Billseq! If the editor who added the reference did not use the template format, readers can click on the external link (if there is one), or go to a library to look up the book/periodical/journal/magazine listed as the source. However, Looking at the Alois Podhajsky article, it appears that whoever added the references, never gave the primary source, so you're right, it is impossible for you to refer to another item to either verify the footnote, or to learn more. This is indeed, an issue that should be remedied. For further information about references, you can see how to cite sources and footnotes to learn more about when, how, and what is considered a reliable, third-party source that should be used in citations. Hope that helps, ^Ariel♥Gold 14:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, they did give an example. :P The article seems to cite a work by the subject of the article, but there's no mention of the subject ever publishing anything. Tough call. GlassCobra (Review) 14:42, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Good question. Whoever prepared those references didn't do so in a way that would allow others to confirm the quotations, which doesn't meet the Wikipedia policy for verifiability. You might try doing a Google search for "Alois Podhajsky" and the last name of the reference cited -- that may lead you to a more complete citation. Another thing to do would be to leave a question on the talk page of the "Alois Podhajsky" article, because the person who put the references in may have that page on his/her watchlist and be able to help you. Accounting4Taste 14:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I see now that an example was given, but it wasn't wiki linked so I thought it was a hypothetical name. After reviewing it, I did clarify my response. Sorry for the initial confusion. ^Ariel♥Gold 14:44, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I looked at the Alois Podhajsky article, and on first glance it looks like a person would need extra-sensory perception to decode the references. Whoever edited those references appears to have cited only the last name of an author, and a page number. No links, no title, etc. The references do not follow our guidelines in WP:CITE, WP:FOOT, and WP:CITET. The talk page (Talk:Alois Podhajsky) does mention at least one book title, but the talk page does not follow the talk page guidelines either, suggesting that the people who worked on this article are not very experienced with Wikipedia editing yet. It looks like we need to add some cleanup messageboxes. --Teratornis 14:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

The applicable WikiProject appears to be: Wikipedia:WikiProject horse training. I'm adding a {{talkheader}} template to Talk:Alois Podhajsky and adding topic headings there, to clean up the talk page at least. --Teratornis 14:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll be working on the article, adding tags, and a bibliography, and removing the references, as they are completely not relevant without knowing the primary source. If you look at the very first revision, it was clearly done by someone unfamiliar with Wikipedia or Wikicode, which explains it. Luckily, I'm actually quite familiar with this subject, so I think I can fix it up a bit. Thanks to all others helping, as well! ^Ariel♥Gold 14:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. While you're at it, how about creating a Template:Horse training because WikiProject horse training appears to have no project banner to put on Talk:Alois Podhajsky. --Teratornis 15:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey! Are you a mind reader? I had just reviewed the project, and it needs a lot of attention, but the most important thing is a banner for talk pages, which I plan on making, hee hee. ^Ariel♥Gold 15:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

ECLIPSES

WHY ARE ECLIPSES SOMETIMES TOTAL AND SOMETIMES PARTIAL? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pjcnic (talk • contribs) 15:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

FLOATING OF DEAD BODY

WHY DO DEAD BODY FLOAT IN WATER? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pjcnic (talk • contribs) 15:57, 7 October 2007 (UTC)