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The authorization permits for the monks mound backhoe destruction from the IHPA were requested August 25, 2007. The state policy to respond to the request for public information such as this is 1 month. As of October 2, 2007, the permits have not been received. This is a violation of the freedom of information act.

I finally got a response to my FOIA request. The legal boss said “No permit is required when they are working on their own property.” They are going to send me a letter saying the same thing. Marburg72 20:15, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Walum Olum

Many archaeologists have been convinced it was a hoax for 50 years (Jimmy Griffin and Glenn Black famously addressed this). The recent publications that address this in detail are those by David Oestreicher and Herbert Kraft. The citations are on the Walam Olum page. The debunking is lengthy and I am not truly qualified to summarize it. TriNotch 21:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If Many archaeologists are convinced of something, that does not necessarily mean it is a fact. In support of the evidence of the genuine authenticity of the Walum Olum is the interesting book "Man and Impact in The Americas". For example, the Cahokia Mounds site managment believe that monks mound was in severe threat from permanent rainwater damage and so they ripped it apart with backhoes. I have a loss in faith of archaeologists judgment or qualifications to make decisions about "hoaxes" too. For example, the archaeologists have put forth great effort to discredit all written evidence including petroglyphs, birchbark scrolls, codices, stone engravings, shell engravings, pipes, and other anomalous artifacts that has ever showed up on the north American continent for over 300 years. That is, as long as it was found north of Mexico. Also, simple pottery head that was found with the Kassly-Schaefer tablet was discredited by Cahokia archaeologists. They said that even though it was found by a professional archaeologist and there is no chance that it is fake that it looks too much like "Dr. Spock". All this leads me to conclude that they favor total ignorance, American Indian racism, and take advantage of the human tendency to favor negative opinions about the past. Because it is so easy to say that those dumb savages were stupid, but huge amounts of evidence show otherwise.