User talk:MDP23/Archive10

MartinBot Question

Hello,

I have a question about your bot. I am asking about the edit summary. It used to have an edit summary of this: BOT-rv edits by vandal to last version by wikipedian. And now, it's reverted edits by vandal to last version by wikipedian (automatic bot revert). So why did it change? Please reply on my talk page. Thank you.--Willy, your mate 09:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Someone asked me to do it, with good reasons which I can't remember now. Martinp23 23:03, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

About My last edit- Royal Central College Polonnaruwa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Central_College and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonnaruwa_Royal_Central_College

are refering to a same place. I tried to delete the latter and keep the former since it has beein linked to the "Schools in Sri Lanka" and in the page "pollonnaruwa" under present situation " Royal central collge". Appriciate if one experence user could fix this duplication. I tried by deleting the later but was blocked. Saman SL(Saman SL 13:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC))

Ahh - only administrators can delete pages. The best recourse in this situation would have been to redirect the pages together, which has now been done. Thanks, Martinp23 23:05, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Email

You got mail. ~ Wikihermit 21:31, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, 1514 unread at the last count. Martinp23 23:05, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Intro/sandbox bot reset

Howdy, I was wondering whether it was possible to get MartinBotIV back in action?

(I'm not sure if you're back or not (per the tags at the top of this talkpage), but I've left a query at Wikipedia:Bot requests#Wikipedia:Introduction in case you're not :) Much thanks. --Quiddity 21:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

There was a problem with the code - I know the problem, and will be able to fix it tomorrow. Sorry for the delay - I have been completely away from the internet for the past week, otherwise the problem (the solution to which I knew just before I left) would have been long fixed... Martinp23 22:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Polite reminder nudge :)

Let me know if I can help in any way (I played around with an eggdrop bot years ago, but that's about all the bot background I have...) --Quiddity 17:45, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

MartinBotIV

MartinBotIV planned on being brought back to action? If not I have a bot ready to go that I can BRFA.

Q ^{T C} 22:24, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to both of you - an awful lot of stuff has come up in Real Life recently. I'll do what I can - progress report on Friday. Martinp23 17:22, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

No problem at all! RealLife tends to do that. *mutterrealitykeepsinterferingwithplansforworlddominationmutter* As long as we're not forgotten, then we're fine :) --Quiddity 17:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Will sort this out soon! Martinp23 23:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Surprise!

Newt Gingrich has visited you! Newt "somehow" promotes WikiLove and wants you to be happy today, and hopefully he has managed to make your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving something friendly to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Come on now, go and make someone happy today, or Newt will hug you till you choke, dear Martin! (eewwww!) :) Happy editing! - Phaedriel - 12:40, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Yay! Martinp23 23:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

NPWatcher

Approvals havent moved for about 10 days ;) ACBestAutograph Book 15:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Approvals havent moved for about 14 days now, and 6 people are now waiting, including me, and some who has asked you recently, on the bottom of this page ACBest 05:21, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Any admin can process them - as it was at the time you posted this message, I was going away for two weeks the following day, so had to think about that! As of now, I have several things to do that only I can do, so can I ask you to take advantage of the vast resources available to you in terms of admins? Thanks :) Martinp23 23:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

PHU

Partyhatunicorn

• Partyhatunicorn (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• Read8910 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

• Code letter: F
• Both like to edit Boot
• On Read8910's userpage they claim they go by Partyhatunicorn SLSB talk ER 01:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

•  Delisted - A community ban or ArbCom ban has not been instituted - merely a block. That said, the sockpuppetry is blatant and admitted, so a checkuser shouldn't really be needed. I've blocked Read8910 indefinitely. If you wish to go ahead with a checkuser regardless, feel free to correct the error I noted above. Otherwise, please make a note that you would like the request to be withdrawn. Thanks, and well done for spotting the socks! Martinp23 02:01, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

---

With that said what code letter should it have been? Thanks- SLSB talk ER 20:28, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

You could probably just have taken it to WP:AIV, or ANI. Martinp23 23:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Template:From Encyclopédie, ou Dictionnaire raisonné des sciences, des métiers et des arts, Denis Diderot (1713-1784) and Jean Le Rond d'Alembert

A template you created, Template:From Encyclopédie, ou Dictionnaire raisonné des sciences, des métiers et des arts, Denis Diderot (1713-1784) and Jean Le Rond d'Alembert, has been marked for deletion as a deprecated and orphaned template. If, after 14 days, there has been no objection, the template will be deleted. If you wish to object to its deletion, please list your objection here and feel free to remove the {{deprecated}} tag from the template. If you feel the deletion is appropriate, no further action is necessary. Cheers. --MZMcBride 20:06, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:RFD would have been better, as I had only redirected that page.... Martinp23 23:10, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

NPW

I am approved for NPW. I used it earlier today and now when I just tried it it says "Log in failed please check to see if your username and password are correct" and they are but it keeps saying that. Please respond on my talk page. SLSB talk 16:08, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Is the problem persisting? Martinp23 23:10, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Tiny little additions caused Martin to see vandalism

My dear MartinBot. I love your work. You've saved me personally tons of time, getting to the page before I did. However, today while I was just watching AIV, I noticed users being repeatedly reported by another editor, and it was always invalid. So I went to look into the issue, and discovered that this editor was just seeing your previous reverts, and not checking the actual edit in question, and reverting valid edits as vandalism. I will illustrate several differences:

MartinBot reverted this edit. This was a valid edit, the user was adding an "N/A" (not applicable) notation to tables, using a dash. It not only is not vandalism, but it helps the overall appearance of the table.

Then, another user just saw you had reverted, didn't bother to check, and reverted, warning the editor yet again of vandalism.

Then, again on this page. Again the user was warned he was vandalizing, but he was simply adding the dash into tables for readability.

A third example can be found here. By now, the poor editor in question has three warnings, and threats of being blocked, all for his helpful additions. This concerns me as, as I truly hate to see users be chastised. I accept that the bot is not infallible, and I also realize that the other editor did not take the time to look through and see if the bot made a mistake before warning, but I'd like to bring it to your attention so perhaps you can look into the issue.

Now, I did take the time to go through the user's edit history, examine each edit, and each different revision, and earlier on, it seemed he'd accidentally put his dashes in the wrong column, and it removed formatting from the table, which you removed. Granted, that's a valid reversion, but it seems then he was placed perhaps on some "blacklist" of yours, and you've reverted all his subsequent edits. He's genuinely trying, and indeed, he seems to have a pretty advanced grasp of table script, and Wikipedia, I believe he just made a simple error. If you indeed have a "blacklist" of some sort, I'd request that you remove this editor, as he does genuinely seem to be helping, as well as know what he's doing.

Most respectfully, with gratitude, ^Ariel♥Gold 19:30, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Just FYI, there is a "whitelist" rather than a blacklist... Cant find the info for it atm tho Reedy Boy 20:24, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Ahh, well, I'm sure white listed editors are registered, and this is an IP, so it probably wouldn't apply. No biggie. If there's a way that MartinBot can improve through little issues like this, and reports, that's cool, if not, we'll just have to hope that RC folks are more careful and remember, MartinBot is only 98% right. Hee hee. ^Ariel♥Gold 20:31, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, it has both black and white lists :). Sometimes massive repetition can trigger the bot - often this catches vandalism, but there is the occasional false positive. Thanks for reporting, Martinp23 23:11, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

Your bot found and reverted some vandalism that originated in my home. When I received the warning, I was shocked, embarrassed and dismayed. Looking through the edits, I saw some coarse, vulgar verbiage that I would not want to see or have published on wikipedia.

We believe that the source of the vandalism was a vistor in our home, and we have instructed the person whose guest it was not to allow this individual to use the computers when visiting our home any more.

I appreciate the wikipedia community and respect the guidelines. I am sorry that this vandalism occurred and I do not believe that it will happen again.

Rick Franklin

Gresham, OR —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.108.228.117 (talk)

I answered at the user's talkpage, explaining that IP addresses often change. Hopefully he'll receive it. --Quiddity 06:32, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks hugely. Martinp23 23:12, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

NPWatcher

Hello, I found out about the program and downloaded, but now it says I must ask approval from you to use it. I new page patrol more often then I RC Patrol so I was wondering if I could have access to NPWatcher? Please respond on my talk page. Thanks! Deflagro ^Contribs/_Talk 00:58, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Just found the Checkpage. No clue how I missed that when reading over it. Sorry bout that. Will go ahead and add myself to the list. Sorry to bug you! Deflagro ^Contribs/_Talk 01:00, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

No problem - my fault for not making it clear in the message! Martinp23 23:12, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Vandal

72.225.56.169 Has vandalized three times, and recently added pointless and vague information onto Bjork, which I undid. Why is he still on Wikipedia? --Garzj019 13:49, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Report vandals to WP:AIV Martinp23 23:13, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Usage of MartinBot on other wikis?

Would it be possible for me to use MartinBot on another wiki, and if so, how would I go about that? If not, are you aware of any other anti-vandalism bots out there that I could try? I administer BearWiki[1], and early this morning (while I was still asleep), a vandal hit almost half the pages on the site. Another admin eventually stopped them, but it'd be nice to have a bot there to help protect the site. -- Rei 16:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

It is prohibitively difficult to make MartinBot work on other wikis, unfortunately - sorry I can't help. Martinp23 23:13, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Bot help

Hi Martinp23, could you take a look at User:HermesBot/Source. The source is horrible and not finish because I'm stuck on a few things and was wondering if you could take a look at it. The purpose of the bot is to tag images with no information (text) on the page. If their is any text the bot is suppose to skip the image to avoid any kinds of errors. My first problem is with regexes. The extremely simple [a-z] and [A-Z] regexes could be used and if anything matches, it skips. Right now it's (i.text.Contains("[a-z]")), which doesn't work because it only looks for [a-z], not the actual regex. However I'm not sure how to get it to be a regex. My next problem is i.text = i.text.Replace("", @"{{Di-no source|date={{SUBST:CURRENTDAY}} {{SUBST:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{SUBST:CURRENTYEAR}}}}"); . You can't pass the string "" empty, so I would need to append this. However when I tried to append it I got a bunch of problems. I'm still stuck on that. My third problem is something I haven't tried because I'm not entirely sure how to do it. The {{Di-no source}} has a template on their to notify the uploader with. I don't know how to grab the user's talk page and add the template if it's needed. Hopefully you will be able to help me out :-). Thanks! ~ Wikihermit 17:13, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

            if ((i.text.Contains("[a-z]")) || (i.text.Contains("[A-Z]")))
                pl.Remove(i.text);
            else
                i.text = i.text.Replace("", @"{{Di-no source|date={{SUBST:CURRENTDAY}} {{SUBST:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{SUBST:CURRENTYEAR}}}}");

To

            if (i.text.Trim() != "")
                pl.Remove(i.text);
            else
                i.text = "{{Di-no source|date={{SUBST:CURRENTDAY}} {{SUBST:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{SUBST:CURRENTYEAR}}}}";{{SUBST:CURRENTYEAR}}}}");

That solves the first 2 problems ;) Reedy Boy 21:37, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I've added a way to notify the user, well, the last editor of the page. Chances are, if its been uploaded with no text, the last contributer, would be the only contributer... So you can tell them... Reedy Boy 22:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Two minor problems. One is that it's missing a { bracket on both sides. My simple mind thought to add the two missing brackets on p.text += String.Format(@"{{subst:di-no source-notice|1={0}}} ~~~~", title); and the terminal gave me:

Loading 11 pages...
Page "User talk:Drewster-34" loaded successfully.

Unhandled Exception: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct f
ormat.
   at System.Text.StringBuilder.FormatError()
   at System.Text.StringBuilder.AppendFormat(IFormatProvider provider, String fo
rmat, Object[] args)
   at System.String.Format(IFormatProvider provider, String format, Object[] arg
s)
   at System.String.Format(String format, Object arg0)
   at MyBot.TellUser(String user, String title) in c:\CBot1\image.cs:line 38
   at MyBot.Main() in c:\CBot1\image.cs:line 29

Also, the {{subst:di-no source-notice|1={0}}} doesn't work in another way. It adds the Image prefix when notifying the uploader. So it does Image:Image:Example.jpg instead. Thanks! ~ Wikihermit 01:37, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry...

...For vanishing from IRC before. My connection is somewhat temperamental at the moment, I think it is a problem at the ISP's end... See you again. J Milburn 22:28, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Ahh - no problem, I wondered where you'd gone! See you Martinp23 23:14, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Help!

Help! I found Vandalism on Fireman Sam but I can't revert it. So can you revert this vandalism with that bot of yours for me please? Thanks! 86.130.79.107 17:25, 25 August 2007 (UTC) Thank you very much for reverting vandalism. Cheers! 86.130.79.107 17:43, 25 August 2007 (UTC) PS:You know I did it by myself but it was horrible plus thank you for reverting the vandalism and I have reported it okay. Plus here is my new Anti vandalism symbol Thanks for reverting vandalism. Cheers! 86.130.79.107 17:51, 25 August 2007 (UTC) Oh and one more thing! Im proud of you for helping save wikpedia from bad vandaism. Lets forget about it now Im sorry I've disurbed you. Cheers 86.130.79.107 18:37, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Look at CheckPage

You might want to look at the checkpage for NPWatcher. There are 3 new users waiting for approval. :) --  PNiddy  Go!  17:00, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Lunch for MartinBot

If it's not flagging the edits already, you may want to consider adding this to MartinBot. Should be remarkably easy to do with a regex. Shadow1 (talk) 17:35, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

StatusBot

About a week ago, I added the StatusBot category to a few userpages of members of BAG, for the purpose of adding the {{ustatus}} template to the list on WP:BAG. Some users have disagreed with this, so I am going through the user talk pages of people I added the category to. Would you mind keeping the category, or would you prefer it to be removed? If you want it removed, you may either delete your subpage of User:StatusBot/Status, in this case, User:StatusBot/Status/Martinp23, and remove the category from your userpage. This will hide the ustatus template and stop it being re-activated. Thanks! Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 01:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

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Suggestion/Request: Month header

I would love to see MartinBot add the appropriate Month header to his new warnings. What commonly happens is that his warnings for users who have not been here in a while, are placed under the old header (if one is present), and then users assume his warnings were for the month it is under, (granted, they should check, but...) Also, some plug ins such as Twinkle, etc., add the proper month header when it is not present, so those are placed under Martin's warnings, effectively giving the impression that Martin's warnings were previous to that month. ClueBot does the month header, so I would love to see MartinBot be able to implement that feature as well. Thanks for listening! ^Ariel♥Gold 16:29, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

horse article

Why would you revert sourced, relevant, and well written information? Whatever happened to "be bold" and "not censered"? Donny417 20:06, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

no problem :) thank you, Donny417 20:13, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

FYI, Donny has been trolling and edit warring at Talk:Arabian horse over the same issue. Having failed to gain acceptance there, he's branching out. Despite his claim that he's trying to "improve the article", he's entirely focused on the Pinyan incident. Acroterion _(talk) 20:18, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

That is frankly not true. I am simply trying to call attention to a trend that has very much to do with horses. I don't know why I'm getting so much heat over a good faith edit??? Acroterion needs to read about how 'not' to bite the newbies! I compromised and found a more general article than Arabian "breed" horses...what is wrong with that? Donny417 20:21, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Claiming WP:BITE is generally something for other people to do on your behalf - your doing it only shows that you are trying to exploit the policy, at least to an extent. As I have told you already, I feel that the material is irrelevant, and I think it could just go in Zoophilia. It seems that you hav been reverted before voer this issue, so now is the time to stop and pursue dispute resolution, before you exhaust somebody's patience. Thanks, Martinp23 20:31, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Donnie's edit history shows a single focus on the Pinyan incident; having failed to recruit Exploding Boy to get it included in Arabian horse, he appears to be trying here. He's crossed the line a few times on WP:CIVIL, WP:POINT and WP:3RR, and been warned by FisherQueen. The "trend" is simply a personal fascination. Acroterion _(talk) 20:26, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I bet you have a source to verify the "personal fascination right? Btw, I have NEVER reverted more than twice, I'm perfectly civil, and I don't care about making a point, I just wish to edit per wikipedia guidelines which you insist on me being not allowed to do just that. Donny417 20:32, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Your edit history pretty much speaks for itself. As for 3RR, you were editing as an IP, then moved to your account when the Arabian horse page was semi-protected. Using IP's to evade 3RR isn't acceptable. You've edited against consensus, which is not a Wikipedia guideline. Acroterion _(talk) 20:38, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Might I suggest to run a checkuser before you "assume" it was me??? I admit that I have forgot to sign in a couple of times, and had to sign in, go back, and leave a signature. However, I guarantee, if you use a checkuser, my username has never been associated with an IP address that was reverting edits. See, this is what I'm talking about, you have a real problem with accepting and/or producing verifiable information. Donny417 20:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

We can do that. And I agree with your comment below. Acroterion _(talk) 20:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Martins User:talk page

I apologize for using your talk page in this manner. You weren't even involved in this. This will by my last edit to your page. Thank you :) Donny417 20:42, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MARTIN!!!

THANK YOU for removing the stupid comment done on Mo Twister's Wikipedia article. The words "MO TWISTER IS SO FEELING GWAPO AND MAEPAL SIYA PA SIGURO ANG NAG-EDIT NITONG SARILING WIKIPEDIA PAGE NIYA" is an insult to a person with respect, the icon of Philippine radio, who started out humbly in 1995.

I appreciate that.

Ian Is Lopez 09:43, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Note:I've removed a personal attack from the reverted IP. If you didn't want this, feel free to revert me. --Isis4563 00:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

"Click here"

Hi, in your bot's message on user talk pages, you use the text click here as anchor text. According to the click here article, this is sometimes considered poor design. Just wanted to let you know; feel free to ignore me ;-) Phaunt 14:06, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

NPWatcher

Just a comment to nag you about the backlog at User:Martinp23/NPWatcher/Checkpage. ChrisDHDR 12:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, There seems to be a backlog growing there. I am waiting as well. Wikidudeman ^(talk) 16:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Any admin can approve... Reedy Boy 17:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Will you approve me? Wikidudeman ^(talk) 17:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

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How come its stopped? Nwwaew (Talk Page) (Contribs) (E-mail me) 04:08, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Maybe because he's on wikibreak - see his user page. Walkerma 18:36, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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Bot's broken

Looks like you're not around, so I indef blocked the bot, as it appears to be broken. When you get back, drop me a note. I'm not that thrilled with the idea of bots being left running unsupervised when the owner is off on indefinite wikibreak. A responsible bot owner needs to be available to take care of business if something bad happens. AKRadecki^Speaketh 01:22, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Which bot? Martinp23 15:58, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I was going to say the same thing about MartinBot, but you seem to be on top of the situation. Best, IronGargoyle 16:55, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah - sorry about the revert. I've fixed the bug which caused the bot to be blocked in the first place, but it doesn't seem to want to use its good/bad user lists now, which is a new one to me. I'm trying to recreate the databases now. Martinp23 16:58, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

would it be possible to give it a more friendly revert message? i think a bot should not shout at humans. -- ∂ 17:44, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I was caught out by MartinBot as well. I reverted some vandalism by 82.29.134.14 to Glenn Miller in which text had been deleted - the second time the page has been vandalised by this user today. I then received a message from the bot telling me that my edit had been reverted as possible vandalism. What should I do about this? Can I undo the edit myself or should I leave it for someone else? Paul20070 17:52, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Martinbot malfunction?

I just reverted an article being blanked and replaced with "Bull S***", and Cluebot reverted it back to that edit, and warned me. Is this natural? Yamakiri^T_C 09-30-2007•18:03:02 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 18:03, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Mind if I revert or delete the message? Will it still give me a higher warning since it did this time if the same thing happenes again? Yamakiri^T_C 09-30-2007•18:12:26

MartinBot still borken

[2] [3] [4] [5] [6] -- ∂ 18:06, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Big Red Switch again

Poor old MartinBot seems to have gone off the rails again, so I blocked him. Please unblock him when he's well again. Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

In which case, I am going to revert the vandalism again. Just thought I should say something here first though. Cheers Paul20070 18:18, 30 September 2007 (UTC)