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Regions-Ulus

Посмотрите. Вы ОКАТО больше верите здесь XLS-Перечень кодов ОКАТО, действующих с 1 января 2006 года (16.03.2007 )] --213.148.170.162 18:42, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ну, во-первых, зачем посылать меня на производные сайты, когда можно посмотреть оригинал. А во-вторых, как следует из того, что я только что написал на Talk:Aldansky Ulus, дело не в ОКАТО, а в законах Республики Саха, которые термины "улус" и "район" используют pretty much как попало вообще, и в применении к Алданскому улусу/району в частности. И делают они это в полном соответствии с процитированным вами законом РС "Об административно-территориальном устройстве Республики Саха (Якутия)". Из чего следует, что разницы, как мы назовём статью тут, нет никакой. Термин "улус" используется, чтобы все статьи назывались по одной схеме, только и всего.

P.S. Вы бы, может быть, представились? Судя по ремарке об ОКАТО мы с вами уже раньше что-то обсуждали?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

К названию статьи в en:Wiki претензий нет, кроме может одной, указан герб муниципального образования "Алданский район", просто по русски принято называть часть улусов (районов) Якутии (причём это закреплено в муниципальных законах) либо районами либо улусами, а для некоторых из них это равнозначно (вот такое странное явление). В en-Wiki я не регистрировался в ru-Wiki ru:Участник:Ss_novgorod —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.148.170.162 (talk) 19:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

В английской вике статьи создаются об административных районах; муниципальные же должны упоминаться в тексте (см., например, Giaginsky District). Насчёт герба подмечено верно; надо будет, наверное, немного подправить инфобокс, чтобы было понятно, что герб является символом муниципального, а не административного образования. Статистика по адм. и мун. образованиям в инфобоксе уже и так разделена (опять же, см. Гиагинский район Адыгеи для иллюстрации), просто для Алданского района муниципальная секция не заполнена.

Что касается названия, то обзор ситуации следующий: к административным улусам (районам) могут с равным правом применяться и термин "улус", и термин "район". К муниципальным же районам термин "улус" не применяется никогда (поскольку это противоречило бы федеральному закону №131-ФЗ); однако термин может служить составной частью собственного названия муниципального района. Так, предмет нашей дискуссии (административная единица) может упоминаться либо как "Алданский улус", либо как "Алданский район" (собственное название — "Алданский"). Муниципальная единица упоминается только как "муниципальный район" и имеет собственное название "Алданский район" (т.е. полностью: муниципальный район "Алданский район", муниципальный район "Амгинский улус (район)", муниципальный район "Кобяйский улус" и т.д. согласно закону от 30 ноября 2004 года 172-З №351-III "Об установлении границ и о наделении статусом муниципального района муниципальных образований Республики Саха (Якутия)").

Ничего не упустил? Всё логично и верно?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:56, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Да наверное так всё логично, просто в ru-Wiki аноним внёс правки в статью называвшиюся в то время Алданский улус Якутии, попытался разобраться - действительно он прав, а вопрос действительно видимо важный [cм. например Улус переименовали в район через суд]--213.148.170.162 20:14, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Понятно. Спасибо за ссылку, довольно интересно. Не похоже только, чтобы эта инициатива с 2003 года куда-либо продвинулась.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Если смотреть периодически на сайт правительства Якутии, тот там заметны перемены в части конкретизации, что улус а что район. Видно, что то там меняется последнее время... Ну всё наверное...--213.148.170.162 20:33, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

За сайтами, вообще, следить очень часто бесполезно, поскольку на сайтах обычно творится бардак. Гораздо надёжнее следить за изменениями в законодательстве (которое, помимо всего прочего, всегда можно процитировать как надёжный источник). За последние же несколько месяцев в законодательстве РС(Я) по поводу терминологии ничего не менялось. Вам сообщить если появится что-либо интересное?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:37, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Novopetrovsk

Ezhiki, can you look into the article? Should we make a Disambig out of it? Alex Bakharev 06:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Alex! Don't worry, when your bot catches a geo-article, it gets on my to-do list automatically, and this particular one I am hoping to sort out today, as it is a complete mess. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 11:50, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As i understood you are Russian so...

Could you please help with the Russian martial arts thing?

I will tell you the problems:

1. Russian martial arts article needs referencing, and i couldn't find thise.

2. There are articles about martial arts in Russian that need to be translated to English. After translated to English, they also need to be referenced and expanded (the demends on the English Wikipedia are higher). Those articles are: [1], [2], [3].

If you can't do that, then please leave that messege to someone who can help here. Thank you. PocketMoon 17:25, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, PocketMoon! Although I am indeed a Russian, I, unfortunately, don't know much about Russian martial arts nor, frankly, am I much interested in this topic. You might have better luck if you post at Portal:Russia/Russia-related Wikipedia notice board; at least more people will see your request for assistance. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Haven't known about that thing. PocketMoon 18:03, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request for article assistance

User:Nightstallion told me you may be able to help.

Lekianoba (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is poorly sourced, and the term has very few Google hits, most of which appear to be either highly partisan or not English. I suspect this is a notable term in Georgia, but am unsure whether it has any currency in English, and what, if anything, to do about the article. Please see if anything occurs to you. Thanks, Cruftbane 20:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I am not an expert on the history of Georgia/Dagestan, and the term "Lekianoba" is completely unfamiliar to me. Why not ask the person who created the article?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:32, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FL Main page proposal

You either nominated a WP:FLC or closed such a nomination this year. As such, you are the type of editor whose opinion I am soliciting. We now have over 400 featured lists and seem to be promoting in excess of 30 per month of late (41 in August and 42 in September). When Today's featured article (TFA) started (2004-02-22), they only had about 200 featured articles and were barely promoting 20 new ones per month. I think the quality of featured lists is at least as good as the quality of featured articles was when they started appearing on the main page. Thus, I am ready to open debate on a proposal to institute a List of the Day on the main page with nominations starting November 1 2007, voting starting December 1 2007 and main page appearances starting January 1 2008. For brevity, the proposal page does not discuss the details of eventual main page content, but since the work has already been done, you should consider this proposal assuming the eventual main page will resemble either an excerpted list format or an abbreviated text format. The proposal page does not debate whether starting with weekly list main page entries would be better than daily entries. However, I suspect persons in favor of weekly lists are really voicing opinions against lists on the main page since neither TFA nor Picture of the day started as weekly endeavors, to the best of my knowledge. Right now debate seems to be among support for the current selective democratic/consensus based proposal, a selective dictatorial approach like that used at WP:TFA or a non-selective first in line/calendar approach like that used at WP:POTD. See the List of the Day proposal and comment at WP:LOTDP and its talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fyodor

I gave it a little scrubbing. If there are any more entries added where Fyodor is just a first name, then they should be moved to Fyodor (give name), leaving the tsars there, as people who simply share a first name do not belong on a dab page. Any other questions, let me know. Happy editing! Chris the speller 23:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Chris! I suspected this is how it should have been done, but I had my doubts on a few points. Your example was most helpful in clearing them up. I am, however, curious why you decided to leave this guy first in the list? Surely he can't be the most well-known Fyodor there's even been? Also, at what point would you say the list of people with the first name of Fyodor would become too long to be left with the rest of the dab?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Не за што. The hacker is apparently best known as just "Fyodor", while many readers will type "Fyodor I" or "Fyodor II" to find a tsar, I'm thinking, so of the hits on this page, a higher percentage might be looking for the hacker. Besides, the natural article title for the hacker would be just "Fyodor" if there were no tsars, and the natural article title for the tsars would be "Fyodor I" and so on, so the hacker has a stronger claim for this page. As for the threshold of entries for just a first name (or last name), another editor mentioned 5 to 10 on the talk page for MoS:DP back in the spring, and that's where I usually draw the line (with a lower threshold if there is a load of onomastic drivel, too, — more incentive to clean up the dab page). Hope this helps. Chris the speller 15:14, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of Tuva

Checked the source, and the correct dates are: The flag was adopted on the 17th and blessed by the Dalai Lama on the 20th. My memory was playing tricks on me. Sorry. Erudil 15:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for checking! Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:17, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nikolay Semyonov

He published nearly all his scientific papers in english journals under the name Semenov, even the noble Prize was given to Semenev not Semyonov. It is clear that the transciption chnged several times and is different in every language, but the name with which he is known in Science might be usefull!--Stone 15:10, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. If you could list a few of his works where this spelling is used on the talk page, that'd be enough to justify inclusion of the "Semenov" spelling in the lead. The only reason why I reverted your addition was because we generally try to stick to WP:RUS unless there are good reasons not to. Publishing works in English under a different spelling is most certainly one of such reasons. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:17, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The lead is not really the best place, but I found no better. I have a biography of him and I will add a little like to all the previous nobel laureats.--134.76.234.75 16:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it is a good place. Alternative spellings are usually listed together with the title as long, of course, as there is a reasonable number of them. One alternative spelling should be no problem at all.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:27, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]