Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 June 27
June 27
Category:Women scientists, Category:Women biologists, Category:Women chemists, Category:Women mathematicians, Category:Women physicists
Wikipedia should not enforce gender inequality by subdividing scientists into male and female sections. Radiant_>|< June 28, 2005 10:39 (UTC)
- Strong oppose because of entrenched inequality within society, being a female scientist is inherently notable and should be categorised as such. Dunc|☺ 28 June 2005 14:44 (UTC)
- Rename - Replace Women with Female. Andros 1337 28 June 2005 15:20 (UTC)
- Rename - agree that Female is preferable to Women, but I cite my post under for Deleting Female Nazis - There is no bias inherent in saying a person is female, would you strip all gender-specific pronouns from articles as well? To claim that designating this category is "Gender Bias" is as ridiculous as claiming Murdered children enforces an age-bias, or that African-American actors enforces racism...quite simply, this is how categories work, they take groups of people sharing a common ethnicity, age, occupation, interest or life-event, and list them together -Sherurcij June 28, 2005 15:48 (UTC)
- Rename per Sherurcij. Note that there have been other categories deleted in this anti-gender-bias spurr (For instance Category:Women composers). Shouldn't policy be global - either all female categories go or stay? Karol June 28, 2005 16:23 (UTC)
Wikipedia should not enforce gender inequality by subdividing historical figures into male and female sections. Radiant_>|< June 28, 2005 10:39 (UTC)
- Keep - There is no bias inherent in saying a person is female, would you strip all gender-specific pronouns from articles as well? The fact is that Magda Goebbels *was* female - and much of the female hierarchy were given their own trials alongside other females, and served together with other females during the war at the same concentration camps. To claim that designating this category is "Gender Bias" is as ridiculous as claiming Murdered children enforces an age-bias, or that Category:African American actors enforces racism...quite simply, this is how categories work, they take groups of people sharing a common ethnicity, age, occupation, interest or life-event, and list them together. Sherurcij June 28, 2005 15:35 (UTC)
Wikipedia should not enforce gender inequality by subdividing pilots into male and female sections. Radiant_>|< June 28, 2005 10:39 (UTC)
- Rename - agree that Female is preferable to Women, but I cite my post under for Deleting Female Nazis - There is no bias inherent in saying a person is female, would you strip all gender-specific pronouns from articles as well? To claim that designating this category is "Gender Bias" is as ridiculous as claiming Murdered children enforces an age-bias, or that African-American actors enforces racism...quite simply, this is how categories work, they take groups of people sharing a common ethnicity, age, occupation, interest or life-event, and list them together -Sherurcij June 28, 2005 15:36 (UTC)
That this category, now unused, existed separately from Category:Character sets was, I believe, based on the notion that "character sets" and "text encodings" were distinct concepts. Someone was trying to enforce the idea that a character set or encoding was specific to computing, whereas there were examples of other text-code applications such as Morse Code and early, non-computer uses of ASCII. This distinction was established by the presence of a text encoding article that was separate from character encoding. However, this definition was nonstandard; it just reflected the views of one Wikipedian, I believe, and more importantly, it quickly proved to be too confusing for people, as noted in the recent discussion on Talk:Character encoding. The text encoding article had a number of errors corrected by Tim Bray, but ended up turning into a redundant summary of the character encoding article. Meanwhile, the character encoding article expanded its scope to include Morse Code and text encodings from other non-computing contexts. Character (computing) also acknowledges that a character is a grapheme or comparable unit from a writing system as represented in "computers and communication equipment," further underscoring the case against "text encoding" being unique.
Therefore I have recently made text encoding just redirect to character encoding (but took care to merge some useful content in the intro paragraphs), and I removed from the ill-defined Category:Text encodings the handful of articles that were in it. The articles mostly belonged under Category:Character sets, and several of them were already there. See also the new descriptive text in Category:Text encodings as well as Talk:Text encoding. — mjb 28 June 2005 04:07 (UTC)
To be consistent with all of the other categories regarding sports teams. I feel that "franchise" is unneccesary. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:36, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- agree - what Zzyzx11 said :) - Sherurcij June 28, 2005 16:30 (UTC)
I do not feel this deserves to be a category, as it is first a person and secondly part of a larger scope of topics which would better be suited in other categories.
- To be clear, I am NOT bias against John Kerry.
- What appalls me, are the articles included and decluded, such as; Bob Shrum (Ted Kennedy doesn't have his own cat),
Colin Powell would probably need his own category as well. Of course only examples of other very notable figures, w/o their own cat. - I found it while deciding on the Category:Veterans proposed rename, under Category:Vietnam War veterans, are we to say that the rest of them do not deserve their own cat? Sorry for the overload of reasons, but I wanted to be clear that I feel this is a POV category, as I see no other reason for its existance. <>Who?¿? 04:04, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Absolute keep I don't understand the reason for the nomination. These articles are obviously related to John Kerry. SchmuckyTheCat 28 June 2005 06:19 (UTC)
- Comment I dont feel that any person should have their own category, all relevent info about them should be wikilinked on the page. However, I was wrong about Colin Powell,as he as a fairly empty cat as well. Some of those articles that relate to him dont justify them being categorized "under" him. If anything rename to Category:Kerry family and remove articles that are not in that family. <>Who?¿? 28 June 2005 06:36 (UTC)
- Weak delete, I think WHO has a point. This is also a rather strange name for a category (a better name would be 'articles related to John Kerry' or something). I think the Kerry family category would be more useful. Radiant_>|< June 28, 2005 06:57 (UTC)
- Keep, although not all of the articles seem appropriate for the category. That said, where else would we file John Kerry military service controversy, Sponsorship of legislation by John Kerry, John Kerry VVAW controversy, etc. etc.? -- Visviva 28 June 2005 15:28 (UTC)