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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Delirium (talk | contribs) at 10:28, 4 December 2003. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

I'm not sure I agree with you that the boiler is not part of the steam engine. In my view, the 'steam engine' is the whole apparatus including steam generator (otherwise, we're just talking about a set of pistons or a turbine driven by high-pressure gases, which doesn't have to be steam).

--Morven 00:20, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Re boiler I know what you mean but while that is true from a "system perspective" it needs separating because for example in the nuclear power station it is a heat source then a heat exchanger. And it is not physically in the same building in some cases.

That section about condensers reducing efficiency need fixing!

The steam generator is certainly part of the total steam engine system, whatever it is. And yes, agreed about the condenser -- since normally the point is to INCREASE efficiency. Use of condensers on mobile steam-engine driven vehicles have generally been for water conservation, though, not efficiency -- it's very hard to produce an efficient condenser that's small and light enough, plus the complexity kills.
--Morven 00:50, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)

While we agree that the boiler is in the "system" it is not "in" the engine ( except for Hero's) which is what I was changing. It is a popular misconception for example that a steam locomotive is a steam engine where it is really an engine and boiler etc. We see these problems when explaining at the local museum ( Claymills pumping engines www.claymills.org.uk) What the system is has perhaps changed over time. I come from the side where a beam engine is an entity itself. 2.06 am in the UK time I left work!

There's also the changing meaning of 'engine', which it seems used to have a less specific meaning historically than it now does, being more along the lines of a device that does something.
I'm more versed with the steam engine in its locomotive form (and to a lesser degree other mobile steam engines, powering cars, ships etc) than the stationary kind, meaning that I'd be interested in seeing what you can bring to those articles!
--Morven 02:16, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)

The 6502 clock information comes from the "great microprocessor" article. I have noticed mistakes in it before, so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if this is one too. However the 6502 really is about the same speed as a Z80, so that's a mystery to solve if there's no divider.


Hi, Cliff Edwards was indeed known as "Ukelele Ike"; that was a varient spelling of ukulele common at the time. See Perfect Records for an example of a record spelling it that way. I just wanted to mention why I changed it back. Thanks though, more often than not something like that would be a spelling error on my part, but not that time. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 22:40, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)


Applause for undertaking publically! Makes my eyeballs bleed, that one does. Hjr 22:55, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Well, publically is permitted by Merriam-Webster. --Naddy 15:46, 23 Nov 2003 (UTC)
I, too, would prefer not changing accepted spellings of words to ones you personally prefer. When editing other people's writing, only completely wrong spellings should be changed. --Delirium 10:28, Dec 4, 2003 (UTC)