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Some time ago I found a wrong(ly translated) term on several Austria-related pages (and, as the same official expression is used in Austria's NNW neighbor country, on Germany-related pages). A more experienced Wikipedia user (don't remember who), living ... in the USA, I think, replied something like "ok, thank you". Feeling encouraged, I searched for en.wikipedia.org-pages containing the wrong term and corrected the word on all pages listed in the results.

Now I find the wrong term again - without a single exception on each and every Austria-related page. What can I do? -- joeditt 18:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image Copyright problem
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E-mail problem workaround

As an alternative solution, you might get a separate e-mail account just for Wikipedia-related e-mails, at a free server such as Googlemail, Yahoo, etc. I've never had any trouble with getting Wikipedia mails at my gmail.com account. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As described, I also did not experience this problem on de.wikipedia.org, on commons.wikimedia.org, and now on bar.wikipedia.org - it happens only here. And no, I won't get me another e-mail account for this. Because (a) if this were a proper solution, this would mean to basically accept such a solution, potentially ending up having to create 30+ e-mail accounts for my community accounts. And because (b) it's absurd this does't work here of all Wikimedia Foundation projects. And because (c) I'm fed up reading on one hand explanations from my e-mail provider that it's the non-matching sender and reply-to adresses which, because typical for spam, is unexceptionally treated as criterion for blocking - and on the other, hints from webmasters of sites whose verification messages fail to reach me, and who tell me to do this or that.
What about e-mail accounts where the same problem occurs? Accepting this and seeing it as a user's duty to solve could mean to end up with - accidentially - no account at all. Why do those responsible for sites with programs/settings/... that cause this problem systematically regard themselves not the least responsible for finding a solution? Why the bug is it never, never possible to get both groups of admins (failing senders and rigid blockers) to communicate directly and solve those inconsistencies instead of dumpig in on the users between and leaving them alone with it? How do they spell usability?
In this case, it's even simpler: en.wikipedia webmasters/admins simply can ask their colleagues from other Wikimedia sites. And it's part of their very job to do this. So, if you want to help, thanks a lot - but please do it properly: not by instructing me, but by assisting in telling en.wikipedia webmasters/admins to attend to their duty. -- joeditt (talk) 15:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry this is such a problem, but like I said on the help desk, it's hard to say exactly what the cause is. Presumably the message is being sent, but it never turns up in your email inbox. So it must be the email provider blocking it.
I have looked at the headers of the e-mail authentication I got from Wikipedia. There is no separate "Reply-to" header, or anything of that sort. Perhaps what your email provider is actually doing is blocking messages with what it thinks are a mismatched sender email address and sender IP address. This is commonly used for spam blocking, but there's not much we can do about it from this end. You're going to have to ask them to not block your messages or to fix the incorrect analysis that the messages are spam. Or get a less problematic email provider.
One other possible cause has popped into my head – are there any special characters in your email address; accented letters, or ß, etc, that might be getting mangled by the server? If it works on Commons it should work here, but maybe the servers are configured differently with regard to language codes, etc. • Anakin (talk) 16:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to you, too. Well ...
Getting me another e-mail account additionally is something I do not see as a solution (see above).
And one from a different provider instead also won't solve the problem.
You wanted to know: "Could you not ask your e-mail provider to stop blocking messages, if that might be the problem?" No, unfortunately I can't. I did try so - repeatedly -, each time being told these rules are "necessary" (which means they don't intend to "fix" anything as they are convinced everything is and works perfect). And my - also repeated - questions if it wouldn't be possible to not block messages from one certain site for one day or a few hours (or perhaps between two phone calls, as the provider's office is in my town) remained unanswered. It was and is just that way for the last seven years.
Unfortunately, I have to stick to this provider, as my employer chose this for my and my colleagues' official addresses. These are free accounts
(and I refuse to start paying for anything - except for (a) my basical internet access, reserving the related e-mail account for a few selected purposes, and (b) only one possible additional account connected to a web domain I may get me one day)
- not allowing to forward messages from there (to an account which I then could use as the one to be checked regularly - I tend to frequently forget about other mailboxes). On the other hand, messages forwarded to this account always have to overcome the same hurdles - which, in most cases, is no problem: it's mainly an issue with a few verification/authentication messages. Having no clue how a domain, a server and all that works, I can only speculate why, what lead me to an assumption close to the one you mention: "Perhaps what your email provider is actually doing is blocking messages with what it thinks are a mismatched ..." - whatever: e-mail/e-mail, or e-mail/IP (in their poor answers, the provider's support folks didn't mention IP addresses explicitly).
But if you really, really have too much time and very much feel like telling my e-mail provider there's something that ought to be changed (um ... from helpful experts to experts open for suggestions), it's www.reflex.at - have fun! -- joeditt (talk) 18:01, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]