Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion

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This page only deals with the deletion of stub types, which consist of a template and a category, and are intended to be used for sorting stubs. Stub templates that are missing categories and stub categories without associated templates are also appropriate here. All other templates or categories nominated for deletion have to be put on WP:TFD or WP:CFD, respectively.

About this page

Putting a stub type on SfD, and what happens afterwards

Put {{sfd-t}} on the stub template
Put {{sfd-c}} on the stub category
List the new stub and/or category on Template:sfd-current. This will let several relevant pages know of the nomination
List the stub type below in a new subsection at the top of the section which has the current date. If that section does not yet exist, create it.
- Mention the template as well as the category (if it exists), like this:
```
==== {{tl|banana stub}} / [[:Category:Banana stubs]] ====
```
- Also mention how many articles currently use the template, and if it is listed anywhere else.
- Of course, state your reason for nominating the stub type for deletion!
After a voting period of seven days, action will be taken if there is consensus on the fate of the stub type. Please do not act before this period is over.
Archived discussions are logged per the instructions at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log, and are located at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/Deleted and Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/Not deleted.

Possible reasons for the deletion of a stub type

They are not used in any article, and their category is empty
They overlap with other stub categories, or duplicate them outright
Their scope is too limited - As a rule of thumb, there should be at least 50 appropriate stubs in existence
The stub category or template is misnamed. In this case, make this clear when nominating and propose a new category or template name. Note that - in the case of a template but not a category - it may be more appropriate to make it into a redirect

What this page is not for

Patently nonsensical or insulting stub types - they may be speedily deleted
Malformed stub types to which no further deletion reasons apply - fix them or tell the Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting
Stub templates that were not approved by the WikiProject Stub sorting (again, unless other reasons apply) - list those on Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries
Stub categories that are too large - these are not deleted, even if they get subdivided
Stub types that have a limited scope, but where there is a WikiProject on the specific topic

You should, however, notify the WikiProject Stub sorting of all stub types that are problematic but do not match the criteria for listing here.

Typical voting options

Keep (do not delete or modify)
Delete (delete template and category)
Merge with xx-stub (Delete category, redirect template to xx-stub)
Merge with xx-stub without redirect (delete category and template, put xx-stub on all articles that use it)
Change scope (reword the template, typically giving it a larger scope. Usually also means renaming the category)
BJAODN (add to Wikipedia:Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense, then delete)

When voting, please try to give a more substantial reason than simply "I like it/find it useful" or "I dislike it/don't find it useful"

Current listings

According to {{sfd-current}}, the following stub types are being discussed on this page. If you notice a discrepancy, please correct the template. Template:Sfd-current

Listings

August 1st

Category:Central-America-related stubs

You read right. But don't worry, I'm not suggesting deleting the well-used Category:Central America-related stubs - no, this is the empty Category:Central-America-related stubs (with the extra hyphen). Grutness...wha? 03:52, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Only two articles tagged, not counting the template. Would be served better by merging with {{Americas-myth-stub}} (which Is currently expanding) GeeJo 01:20, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

(no vote) Wouldn't it make more sense to have it as a subcategory of {{Americas-myth-stub}}? BTW - I added this to sfd-current, and added the category, since it's silly to nominate one and not the other. Then I added the deletion templates to both. Please follow the instructions at the top of the page! Grutness...wha? 03:37, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Normally I'd agree, but I've parsed through from A to G so far without finding a single Incan stub to add to the two that are in the category. With that small a number, is it worth having an individual template/category when the subjects are also covered under another (non-full) stub type? GeeJo 04:38, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Sorry for the extra work from the listings, new here and still feeling my way around :)

Stub for a user page. User pages don't need stubbing for reasons of going to expand them, or showing that they need expanding, making a stub type useless. Anyone wanting to put a fake stub type on their user page can easily do it with :''This Wikipedia user page is a stub.'', which isn't difficult. This doesn't have any purpose and I doubt it gets much use. Hedley 02:05, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. What's next? "Teenager-user-stub"? "Koala-lover-user-stub"? --Sn0wflake 02:17, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Del (PS - I added this to sfd-current and added the appropriate deletion template to user-stub. Please follow the instructions at the top of the page!). Grutness...wha? 03:52, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

July 31st

Unused redirect. Badly formed name. --TheParanoidOne 10:34, 31 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

July 30th

Used on only two articles. Inconsistently named (nbc for template, NBC for category). Narrow scope (though this one could be argued against by the existence of a {{PBS-stub}}). --TheParanoidOne 10:13, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete
- (User:Circeus forgot to sign - Grutness...wha?)
Keep. I was planning on deleating this template (which I had made), but if we were to put this on articles relating all-and-out to the NBC network, that would be fine; we could put this on all of the many NBC related articles that are stubs. For instance Alexandra Cabot (Law & Order: SVU Character) is one, otherwise delete.

Comment: Law and order:SVU is only shown on NBC in the U.S. - does it also get a stub category for each station it's shown on in other countries? I would have thought it more effective to split TV shows up by genre, the same way that books are split. Grutness...wha? 03:52, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ent-stub (links, talk)

Walking trees? Entomology? No, entertainment. This stub has no category attached (not even a non-stub category), is an orphan, and is covered by a wide array of more precise stub types. I say delete. Grutness...wha? 08:29, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Ambiguous. Vague. Not a walking tree in sight. It has nothing going for it. --TheParanoidOne 09:45, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, I would have never guessed this one, even if I were trying quite hard. --Sn0wflake 15:44, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

July 29th

Created by an anon in May 2005. Used in zero articles. Redlink category. --TheParanoidOne 22:40, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Make the template a redlink too. Grutness...wha? 11:27, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, narrow scope. --Sn0wflake 15:46, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Circeus 21:40, July 30, 2005 (UTC)

Peacegroup-stub

Extremely narrow stub group; almost inherently POV. --Scimitar ^parley 16:39, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per above. Not even a "real" stub type as it has no associated category. Only used on one article. --TheParanoidOne 19:33, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Replace the template on the article with org-stub. Grutness...wha? 01:17, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

July 28th

Category:Accounting-related stubs

the following has been moved from CFD Grutness...wha? 11:22, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant with Category: Accounting stubs which follows the format of all the other stub categories. I am in process of adding accounting stubs to the later category. Please be patient :) Renata3 18:42, 24 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There is no stub-template asosiated with this category, it's empty and un-used as far as I can tell. ~~Delete~~, unless SfD also deals with orphanded stub categories. --Sherool 19:26, 25 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- It does, and should be taken there. If it's a template or category relating to stubs, orphaned or not, it gets dealt with by sfd. Grutness...wha? 23:30, 25 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - In that case I withdraw my previous vote, and agree it should be sent to SfD. --Sherool 23:42, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Deprecated and orphaned. Grutness...wha? 11:22, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per above. --TheParanoidOne 19:27, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:News trade stubs

the following has been moved from CFD Grutness...wha? 11:22, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"News trade" is a little-used term at best. The general "News trade" category and template have already been deleted. The article has been redirected, I think to "News media". Maurreen 07:32, 25 July 2005 (UTC) (Forgot to sign here earlier.)[reply]

Delete. Maurreen 18:04, 24 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
To SfD I think. If not then delete. -Splash 15:57, 25 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This one is an odd one. This was presumably a previous target of the deleted jornalism-stub AND news-stub, which has long been associated with Category:Newspaper stubs. There are still 19 un-re-edited stubs lurking in here, though. (empty it and delete it) Grutness...wha? 11:22, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

unused, badly-worded redirect to {{Canada-stub}}. Not needed. Grutness...wha? 04:25, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete ambiguous redirect. --TheParanoidOne 05:32, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Can it as ambiguous. Susvolans (pigs can fly) 11:45, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Created in mid-May, and an orphan (has been used on one or two articles, tops, in that time, but currently unused). Cuts across the stubbing of living organisms by kingdom and/or order (e.g., plant-stub, invertebrate-stub, bacteria-stub). Not particularly useful - delete. Grutness...wha? 03:40, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per above. --TheParanoidOne 05:32, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Get rid of it, to complex Circeus 21:39, July 30, 2005 (UTC)

July 27th

On 24th July, User:Renata3 moved {{accounting-stub}} to {{acc-stub}} because "Accounting is just too long." (See my talk page for the complete reasoning). I have reversed this and acc-stub now remains as a redirect. It is not used by any articles, so can/should be deleted. I have not added sfd-t to the template as it will screw up redirecting, if used. --TheParanoidOne 21:51, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That can be fixed - simply turn it into a "faux-redirect" - have a look at the way I've altered can-stub. Either that or put sfd-t on the talk page. Oh, and I agree - delete it. (If anyone is wondering about its potential for ambiguity, an accident/disaster stub is listed in the current proposals at WP:WSS/C) Grutness...wha? 02:53, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that's good. I took the first route. --TheParanoidOne 05:30, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Created by User:Tedius Zanarukando in June 2005. Feeds into Nintendo stubs (which has its own stub). "What links here" says it's used by 7 articles, some of which (eg James McCloud) don't appear to be stubs.

Delete because: Too narrow scope. Insufficient number of stub articles to justify its creation. --TheParanoidOne 05:33, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; see also {{Fire Emblem-stub}} Lectonar 06:31, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Replace with {{Nintendo-stub}}.
Delete and replace with Nintendo stub. Thunderbrand 16:16, July 30, 2005 (UTC)

July 26th

Rename of {{MDpolitician-stub}}

This stub has over 100 articles in it so I guess it's a decent child of {{US-politician-stub}}. But the name isn't intuitive. I see "MD" and immediately think "doctor". I propose a rename to {{Maryland-politician-stub}}. --TheParanoidOne 05:40, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: MD is Maryland's AP and postal abbreviation, but if it's that much of a problem then I suppose a renaming wouldn't hurt anyone. --tomf688^<TALK> 15:48, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

Another comment: How many medical doctor politicians are there out there? ;) --tomf688^<TALK> 20:50, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

A surprising number, actually. I can think of at least three current New Zealand MPs (out of 120 MPs), so if that tiny sample's anything to go by, 2.5% of politicians. And MD is also Moldova's ISO code. Which is why we don't use that sort of code for stubs when they can be avoided - too much ambiguity! Grutness...wha? 01:38, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"but if it's that much of a problem". That may indeed be a problem. I only knew that MD was Maryland because of the stub text. I'm sure there are many people like me who know (almost) nothing about US postal codes (or what an "AP" is). So are you now leaning towards a rename as your comment suggests? --TheParanoidOne 05:14, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and it's the car-plate code for Magdeburg :); Rename as per TheParanoidOne's suggestion Lectonar 06:38, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

or what an "AP" is - The Associated Press. --tomf688^<TALK> 14:00, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

I work part time for a different "AP" - Allied Press. (my s.o. is also an A.P., but that's another matter, although, by coincidence, her g-grandfather is redlinked on the page I've just linked!) Grutness...wha? 14:17, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Old BusinessEverything from here on down is old business; the current 7-day review period has ended. Everything from this point on should be dealt with and removed from the workflow. Move this marker up as time passes.

July 23rd

{{VRC-Stub}} / Virtual reality community stubs

Created by Sgeo on 27th Dec 2004. Used by only two articles at time of article creation (27 Dec 04 and 12 Feb 05). --TheParanoidOne 12:01, 23 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

(Late entry, but maybe we don't have to relist it then) Delete, near empty and never was full, and very (too?) specific. -- grm_wnr Esc 22:44, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

July 18th

rename of {{standard-stub}}/Category:Standards stubs

This one's being proposed as the result of a discussion at WP:WSS/C over whether a separate {{unit-stub}} is needed(probably not, it's covered by standard-stub). The ambiguously named standard-stub has needed a rename for a while. Not only does it not refer to stubs that are standard (i.e., ordinary), nor to flags, but what it actually seems to be used for is standard forms of measurement - SI units, testing procedures and the like. As such, I'd like to suggest changing it to {{measurement-stub}} and Category: Measurement stubs, which, at the very least, is a bit more understandable. Grutness...wha? 08:44, 18 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

renaming to {{measurement-stub}} is fine with me. Oleg Alexandrov 01:33, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as is unless you want to remove the various ISO and similar standards? Circeus 21:27, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
- A compromise - measurement-stub as a redirect, and the category changed to "Standards and Measurements stubs"? It does seem that there are two different but connected things in this category, but I doubt it's big enough to split in two yet. Grutness...wha? 04:33, 23 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Unfinished business

To orphan

Stub types in this section have been deemed deletable and have to be removed from all articles using them, so that they can be deleted.

To delete

Stub types in this section have been orphaned and can be deleted.

Listings to log

Stub types with completed discussions which have not yet been logged; remove from this page entirely when logged. Anyone can do this, not just an admin; please see the directions at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log.