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I don't really do coaching but it strikes me that your anniversary for being unblocked is only a few months away. If you were still interested in adminship, that would be a good date to retest the waters. If so, you probably need to re-involve yourself in things like AFD, DRV and CSD. If you are interested I can run you through a few scenarios to help you test yourself out. If you want to go alone I strongly advise you to keep a close eye on DRV as the deconstruction of deletion decisions there is highly instructive. Spartaz ^Humbug! 18:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, please go vote for our project. iMatthew 20 08 21:53, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AFD Reviews

Hi

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Industrial Systems Research. While this is clearly a deletion I wonder if you can work out which arguments are valid and which should be discarded? Spartaz ^Humbug! 21:57, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The first delete by Smerdis of Tlön seems fair, but the 2nd delete by SFC9394, doesn't say exactly why he thinks it should be deleted. His decision seems more based on the user's reputation rather than the quality of the article. Even if there is some kind of COI, there might still be some outside sources available to help improve the quality of the article. The third one is OK, yet, sources could still be found (if possible). jonathon also says that it "reads like a publishers catalog", suggesting that it is not in encyclopedic tone. So out of the three, I'd probably discard the 2nd one. D.M.N. (talk) 19:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Close. Personally, I'd discard the first and second deletion votes. COI isn't a reason to delete. Most AFDs come down to notability and verifiability and being a publishing house for nn books can still be notable if someone writes about them... Being written in an unencyclopaedic tone doesn't get you deleted either. The fatal point for this article was the lack of sourcing, Fisher Queen had done a very thorough job looking for sources before nominating which is always a very good thing to see in a nom. Spartaz ^Humbug! 19:13, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Thanks, D.M.N. (talk) 19:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also see [[1]]. There is a lot of text here. Which arguments are relevant and which do you think should be discarded? How would you close this one? Spartaz ^Humbug! 22:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From the outset, there is pretty clearly sockpuppetry your dealing with here. In normal circumstances, I would consider the opinions from the original account, but remove all other accounts created by that particular person. "Dogfit" has a pretty clear COI - "I served in the MFO a couple" - saying he served in the MFO is COI as he is/was closely involed in the subject. As "Moondyne" rightly points out, Glanvis, SigsA, Proqa, Crynt1, Dumbelmore have not contributed much outside the topic. Blatant conflict of interest and potentional sockpuppetry by those accounts.
:That leaves us with 2 delete and 1 merge. If I was left with that, I would delete it, as there are clearly no notable outside sources available. This website is the only references in the article, and that appears to be a government website. D.M.N. (talk) 19:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And so it was closed ;). Excellent analysis. Spartaz ^Humbug! 22:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AFD Redux

Should we create a subpage to keep these tidy? What do you think about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Last of The Summer Wine cast members. How would you close this one? Spartaz ^Humbug! 22:11, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Definite delete. Pretty obviously an indiscriminate list. The second option would be to merge into Last of The Summer Wine, but as one of them commented, that would probably not work. D.M.N. (talk) 14:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

and this one [[2]] What should we do with this? Spartaz ^Humbug! 22:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete again. As Phil Bridger shows, sources do exist, but all are from a single book. In my opinion, sources are needed from several different locations to show an articles notability, which this article badly fails. As Chanigo points out, the book sources aren't very reliable. As no one else in the deletion debate has provided different sources, I would say it's a delete. The term in the article seems a little vague, so if it was kept, I suggest that the article should maybe be reworded. D.M.N. (talk) 14:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Both spot on. You seem to have the hang of this. Lets try something different. I'll do it on your coaching page Spartaz ^Humbug! 22:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: Barnstar

Thanks for the barnstar. Its cool, man. I know even if you knew me or not, you had to give your opinion on what my failures would be as Admin. Like you said, maybe in a few months I'll try this again and see if it works out or not. ;) And for the record, we're still pals. ;) -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd give my support to ya. I trust you. ;) -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:20, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Something we have in common. I too, was blocked, see here. But I think your reputation has cooled off. You know, I'm shocked that no one brought up my previous blocks to the discussion. I thought they were going to start with this user is not reliable because she was blocked, etc..... -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:30, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jeez, thanks for having my back. Sarcasm. IDK, cause when I got my name changed, I thought that my Zero history was going to be added with ThinkBlue. I guess not. When do you plan on getting your Rfa? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:37, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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