Hello, Oestrik! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already loving Wikipedia you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Happy editing! Rosiestep (talk) 07:43, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Sacerdote/DavidYork71/whateveryouwannacallyourself. If you continue to whitewash and vandalize the pages associated with the Karmapa controversy, including the claimants thereto, but forceably attempting to assert your opinion, I (or someone else) will undoubtedly continue to undo your activities and report you for multiple account abuse. Changchub (talk) 01:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The key is to have inclusiveness of all views and respect the references provided. For example, there no justification for suppressing knowledge of the 14th Sharmapa's recognition of two 17th Karmapas in succession. It comes with a reference citing his own words.Oestrik (talk) 01:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
'Tis dishonest to try to claim that that was all you were trying to do. The "reference accompanied" change you refer to above was accompanied with a host of other changes all meant to reflect your "whitewashing" as Sylvain referred to it, of the whole Karmapa controversy. You are a persistent and disruptive user who displays no evidence of interest in inclusiveness of all views other than your own. Go concentrate on your legal job or the Koran or something else for awhile! Changchub (talk) 01:54, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
