Talk:Electrophilic aromatic substitution

Proposed merger with Electrophilic substitution

I oppose the complete merger of this page with the other. Electrophilic aromatic substitution (EAS) is simply the commonest example of electrophilic substitution, but it is important enough (one of the top ten organic reactions IMHO) to warrant its own page. However I accept that the current page on electrophilic substitution is almost totally concerned with electrophilic aromatic substitution, and that page is in fact a much better page. I would like to see the content from Electrophilic substitution moved here, then new content written on the topic of electrophilic substitution in general. This should cover the 53 electrophilic substitution reactions which are NOT aromatic substitutions, as listed in Jerry March's Advanced Organic Chemistry (5th ed, Wiley), as well as describing EAS. Examples include things like alpha halogenation of carbonyl compounds, nitrosation of active methylene compounds, etc. Walkerma 04:56, 14 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I did propose the merger and I agree with Walkerma that a content switch is the better solution and not the just the merge, do any guidelines exist for this type of edit? If ES officially merges to EAS then EAS is the main article and ES a redirect. EA can then start all over with new content starting with the first two lines of EA or something like that V8rik 16:30, 14 July 2005 (UTC).[reply]

I suppose I also oppose merging the two completely, since EAS is a quite rich topic. The EAS page would be perfect for diagrams that make clear(er) the reasons why certain groups activate the ring and others deactivate it. I do hope I haven't stepped on any toes by substantially updating the EAS article - now that I look at the diagram again, it isn't the best... Ataru 8 August 2005

- we agree on the content switch and not the merge, will try to implement this 48 hours from now, so any suggestions wellcome. the new pics are LARGE. try using a thumb, also see Arene substitution patterns for explanation on ortho, meta, para, do not have to repeat everything 10 times. V8rik 23:02, 2 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

- Well, drat. I looked for ortho/meta/para and didn't see it anywhere. Thanks... I'll let you handle the merge; if you can size the diagrams appropriately, have at it. Ataru 2 August 2005 (How do you get the dang timestamp?)

reshuffle with electrophilic substitution

collected all the material from both pages and merged. tried to keep most of the previous edits in one piece but not always possible. All 5 main reactions have their separate pages so plenty of room there for additions, there is also a page called activating group you might consider. Also try consider downsizing the pics. V8rik 20:14, 4 August 2005 (UTC) (by the way thats 4 tilde signs in a row)[reply]

I like the material, but I'm not sure the diagrams will work off to the right where they are, especially if there are more in the future. Nice job though, thanks... Ataru Ataru 00:33, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]