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Luke Littler in 2024
Luke Littler

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Ehud Olmert in W.Commons
Ehud Olmert in W.Commons
Benjamin Netanyahu in a {fairuse} (?) photo.
Benjamin Netanyahu in a {fairuse} (?) photo.
I've found and put up a PD photo of Netanyahu.--Pharos 03:56, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Jewish Israeli terrorist kills 4 Arab-Israeli citizens, which include two muslim girls and two Christian Arabs men. here is one of numerous links in the news.
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  • Currently on the MainPage: The death in a helicopter crash of Sudanese Vice-President John Garang, a central figure in the recent peace deal ending the Second Sudanese Civil War, sparks deadly rioting in Khartoum.
Do we know if it's really a helicopter ? The John Garang article says "The statements by Uganda that Garang was traveling in a helicopter and by Sudan that he was in a plane could not be immediately reconciled." Perhaps we should only post "The death of Sudanese Vice-President John Garang ...", removing the words "in a helicopter crash". -- 199.71.174.100 21:57, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Removed as suggested. Thanks. -- PFHLai 07:53, 2005 August 2 (UTC)
  • George Bush forces through the appointment of John Bolton as US ambassador to the United Nations. Bolton was put up for nomination five months ago, but argument and debate prevented Bolton from winning the job. Critics say Bolton verbally abused employees, and modified intelligence to fit his conservative agenda. Bolton also came under fire for comments he made about the UN, saying that US national interest is the only interest that matters in the world, and that the UN works only when the US wants it to. BBC News T-mccool
    • If we put this up, I think something like: "U.S. President George W. Bush uses a recess appointment to install John Bolton as Ambassador to the UN until January 2007." would be more appropriate. The details, of course, go in the article.--Pharos 19:43, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm not yet an expert at submitting news stories, obviously your judgement would be better. I wanted to submit this article, however, because it seemed like a significant development to a somewhat long-term argument that may have wide-reaching consequences. T-mccool
        • Maybe the Bolton story should replace the trans-Neptunian object story? That's getting to be a little bit old right now, and besides, the Bolton appointment is going to spark quite a controversy on this side of the pond. --Titoxd 23:08, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
          • On this side of the pond ? Hmmm... how did the Bolton appointment affect Greenland, Iceland, Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Jamaica ..... ? Would the UN ambassadors from other countries care ? IMO, this appointment seems a little too much of a local/domestic news item to me. If something shocking develops, such as Congress "retaliates" with some unprecedented moves, this may be ITN-worthy. Nothing like that yet. I'd wait. -- PFHLai 07:53, 2005 August 2 (UTC)
  • Rafael Palmeiro, who had categorically denied ever having used steroids at a U.S. House hearing in March 2005, receives a 10-day suspension for violating Major League Baseball's steroids policy. (Source: AP/Yahoo!)–Dale Arnett 18:46, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • An American baseball player gets a ten day vacation with pay. This is not news. --Golbez 18:50, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
      • Actually, Golbez, it's not a vacation with pay. Palmeiro stands to lose $163,934.42 of salary during the 10-day suspension. This is news indeed, as he was one of the high profile baseball players who went to the US Congress to discuss the steroid issue a few months ago. His anti-steroid stance is well known. However, I'd only suggest this for ITN on a slow news day. Ditto for the Bolton story. -- 199.71.174.100 20:07, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
        • Bolton is actual news (though perhaps not actual enough to bump any of the stories currently there). Palmeiro is not. OK, so someone gets an unpaid 10 day vacation for taking steroids. What a tremendous punishment. This is not important news, even if it does contradict congressional testimony. If he were indicted for lying to Congress, maybe, and even then. --Golbez 20:22, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
File:Crown Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, April 25, 2002.jpg
King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia (2002 photo)
I'm also unsure about what is new about this as ice is well documented on Mars. Given that there is already an extraplanetary item on ITN, the newsworthiness of a second should be obvious. - BanyanTree 04:45, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Map showing Maharashtra (purple) in India.
Map showing Maharashtra (purple) in India.


Added, see if you can find a graphic (the one the BBC has might work). --Dante Alighieri | Talk 18:08, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

Space Shuttle Discovery lifts off at 10:39 EDT from Kennedy Space Center on mission STS-114, the first space shuttle mission since the Columbia disaster on February 1, 2003. --Jpo 15:08, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

Shucks, I was beaten. :) --Golbez 15:15, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

the first spaceflight since the Columbia disaster in 2003

This is wrong and should be removed ASAP. There have been several other spaceflights since then (e.g. Soyuz TMA-5 in October 2004). Ben Arnold 16:36, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've found a whole bunch of other spaceflights since Columbia:

  • 26 April 2003 Soyuz TMA-2
  • 15 October 2003 Shenzhou 5
  • 18 October 2003 Soyuz TMA-3
  • 19 April 2004 Soyuz TMA-4
  • 14 October 2004 Soyuz TMA-5
  • 15 April 2005 Soyuz TMA-6

It's frustrating that false information has been put in the News section and the page is protected. Ben Arnold 16:51, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Can we have "... the first U.S. spaceflight since ..." changed to "... the first NASA spaceflight since ...", please ? -- 64.229.206.3 18:00, 26 July 2005 (UTC) And I don't think we need a hyphen in "lifts-off". -- 64.229.32.127 18:52, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The setting of a date for the election is not of sufficient importance for ITN. Maybe it would be if it was a snap election, but this is one of the most expected dates. We should certainly have the election itself here on September 17, and the results on September 18.-gadfium 03:18, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that it's not a surprise, but we haven't had much from that part of the world lately. Let's not leave them out. This was apparently the top news item there yesterday, as it is now on the ITN at Wikipedia:Wikiportal/New Zealand. Also, I would suggest an update of ITN with something for the sake of an update. I'd rather have the earthquake, or the Philippine electoral crisis, 2005, but we need well updated articles. An alternative would be the Guinea-Bissau presidential election, 2005, but I'd wait for the pending results in a few days. This suggestion was made in response to a complaint at Talk:Main Page#Update the news section regularly. Please re-consider. Thanks. -- 199.71.174.100 04:56, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's updated with something! -- 199.71.174.100 21:45, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Lance Armstrong, 2004
Lance Armstrong, 2004
Is Lance moving on to other (non-road) bicycle racing ? -- 64.229.32.127 18:55, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A plane crashed close to the German parliament (Bundestag) and Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's office. See http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-germany-plane-crash,1,7523308.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true


The current In the News says "following yesterday's abortive bombing attempts..." Didn't the bombs actually go off? (ie they were not attempts, nor abortive). The section should read "following yesterday's bombings on the London Underground..." Kaisershatner 18:18, 22 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Only the detonators, not the devices themselves, exploded with the bombers then fleeing the scene. I think that qualifies as an abortive attempt. Ddye 20:28, 22 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
President Horst Köhler of Germany
President Horst Köhler of Germany
Map of Mexico, shaded area indicating the state of Quintana Roo
Map of Mexico, shaded area indicating the state of Quintana Roo
Flag of the Kuomintang
Flag of the Kuomintang

pamri 04:41, July 16, 2005 (UTC)

Time to do a Karl Rove story. The latest news [2] is that an undisclosed New York times source claims that Rove admitted to investigators to have talked to columnist Robert Novak, shortly before Novak publicized the name of Valerie Plame. In the past weeks, it was revealed that Rove told Times reporter Matthew Cooper that "Wilson's wife" was a CIA agent, but until today it was not clear if Rove had ever talked directly to Novak. The report, if confirmed will substantiate both the claims of Rove's misconduct, accidental or deliberate, and further implicate the White House and perhaps even its appointed investigator. -SV|t 01:28, 16 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is a U.S. story with somewhat limited international interest, so we probably wouldn't want to put it up more than once. I think it might be best to wait a few days on this one, as events are movingly rapidly and it seems likely there will be at least some sort of a "confession" (if not resignation) on Rove's part soon.--Pharos 02:02, 16 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
We have too much room on the right side of the Main Page, how about sticking this in somewhere on ITN ? -- 199.71.174.100 06:50, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • While I do enjoy hockey, and this is important, what with everything it affects, they still have not officialy ended the lockout. After its ratified would be a better time to announce it, which should happen sometime next week. Kaiser Matias 18:05 15 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Fair enough. Fits my own criteria for elections and voting I suppose. But I'm sure someone will revert me sans reason rather quickly. --Golbez 18:19, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Awesome.The deal has rammifications within hockey and the other NA pro sports... like the MLB... now the only one w/o a (long overdue) salary cap. --Madchester 20:51, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Flag of Monaco
Flag of Monaco
Coat of arms of Monaco
Coat of arms of Monaco

Flag of Kyrgyzstan

G8 logo
G8 logo
Official G8 2005 portrait.
Official G8 2005 portrait.
Map marking Scotland within the United Kingdom
Map marking Scotland within the United Kingdom
  • Item was added to main page. Mgm|(talk) 08:22, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
    • Please fix ALT text. The red area in the map now on ITN is not Southern Scotland, but the entire Scotland. Perhaps [[Image:Map_of_Scotland_within_the_United_Kingdom.png|none|100px|Map marking southern Scotland]] should be changed to [[Image:Map of_Scotland within the United Kingdom.png|100px|Map marking Scotland within the United Kingdom]] ? Thanks. -- 64.229.220.38 14:06, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

that's true i think the main image should be replace with the one of the world leaders instead of the map of scotland. after all, it's them pledging the aid, not scotland

I agree. But right now, the Flag of Kyrgyzstan would be even better. :-) -- 64.229.227.66 04:04, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Florida Panhandle
Florida Panhandle


Potential path of Hurricane Dennis as of 11am EDT 8 July 05
Potential path of Hurricane Dennis as of 11am EDT 8 July 05

Typo, should be: "The attack comes less than 24 hours after the city won the nomination to host the 2012 Summer Olympics." – Smyth\talk 7 July 2005 19:30 (UTC)

"The attack comes less than 24 hours after London's winning the contract" - Typo? No, it's just a different (and equally correct) wording. — Dan | Talk 7 July 2005 19:47 (UTC)
I was referring to the previous wording. It's fine now. – Smyth\talk 7 July 2005 19:51 (UTC)

The European Parliament rejects the proposed Directive on the patentability of computer-implemented inventions by a 648-14 vote with 18 abstentions, ending four years of intense debate and lobbying.

Why the hell not, posted. It's also a rather good article, which helps. --Golbez July 6, 2005 14:23 (UTC)
Logo of The Wimbledon Championships
Logo of The Wimbledon Championships


  • Cooper Documents reveal that one of the two sources in the Valerie Plame exposure scandal was Karl Rove, president George W. Bush's chief political advisor. (Wikinews) (TIME Magazine) (Editor & Publisher) (The Huffington Post) posted here by Kevin Baastalk: new July 3, 2005 16:14 (UTC)
    • It's not something that is widely known in the world. Here in Canada, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who even knew what this is about, myself included. And I spend a lot of time looking up international news. Kaiser Matias 23:39 3 July 2005 (UTC)
      • No proper article update: Cooper Documents is a red link, Valerie Plame has a single mention from Larry O'Donnell of MSNBC (All other mentions of Rove are two years old), Matthew Cooper has no mention of it, and Karl Rove has no mention of it. Try again please. --Golbez July 4, 2005 01:18 (UTC)
        • FWIW, I have shifted my focus to wikinews, so i'm primarily relying on others on wikipedias to stay on top of things like this. If I update Valerie Plame or an article on the Supreme Court case (if there is one, which there should be) will this item be reconsidered, and if not, why not? Kevin Baastalk: new July 4, 2005 13:44 (UTC)
          • I suppose it would be reconsidered (that Wikinews article looks quite good, btw), I'd think the best place would be to have an article on the documents themselves, or update Plame. Is this public record yet, though, or is this just Larry O'Donnell's raving? --Golbez July 4, 2005 20:11 (UTC)
  • Live 8 concerts are taking place in each of the G8 countries around the world with the message calling for an end to world poverty.
    • Biggest musical event ever, might deserve to be on the Main Page I guess... Dan100 (Talk) July 2, 2005 15:47 (UTC)
      • It's a shame not to see Live 8 not on the Main Page yet. Never before has there been something this big happening, with an estimated audience of 5 billion. Kaiser Matias 15:57 2 July (UTC)
        • 83% of the whole world population is going to this concert? That deserves to be on the Main Page without a doubt! ;-) — Timwi 2 July 2005 18:22 (UTC)
  • American R&B singer Luther Vandross dies at the age of 54, from complications of a stroke.
    • Very popular musician over the course of a two-decade career in music. Currently confirmed breaking news at cnn.com [3]. --FuriousFreddy 1 July 2005 23:01 (UTC)
    • Support this one. This is a name known around the world, is covered well in the article, and the news item could take very little space if necessary. Deco 2 July 2005 21:40 (UTC)
    • See yesterday's furor over Sandra Day O'Connor. Today's the wrong day for "dead U.S. musician" to try and make the front page. Hajor 2 July 2005 21:51 (UTC)
  • Sandra Day O'Connor submits her letter of resignation from the U.S. Supreme Court, the first resignation in over ten years, effective when her successor is confirmed.
    • I offer this because I feel the post there now is inadequately worded. --Kitch 1 July 2005 15:02 (UTC)