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IPA for language XX

There is some wild growth of special templates for IPA applied to various languages, like IPAEng, IPAHe, IPARus, IPA-pl, IPAes. Even these few are almost all differently constructed: two/three letters, caps/nocaps, dash/no dash. I propose to standardise using the two letters of the wikipedia space (like "en.wikipedia.org") an no caps, no dash. So we would have IPAen, IPAhe, IPAru, IPApl, IPAes. Is it too late to switch? −Woodstone (talk) 09:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, not if we can get a bot to convert IPAEng. There are ten thousand of those! kwami (talk) 17:57, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As long as {{IPAEng}} redirects to {{IPAen}}, it's not a big deal. Irish has {{IPA-ga}}, but that's different: it's a little blue notice appearing in the upper right-hand corner of articles rather than an inline link. I was just about to create a template parallel to these; I guess I'll call it {{IPAga}} to fall into line with Woodstone's proposal. —Angr 15:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was just doing a search on "template:IPA" to find if there are more of these. It turns up IPA-ga and IPA-pl but not IPAEng and IPARus. I guess the dash makes the word IPA searchable. Therefore I would like to change my above proposal to include a dash. So we get IPA-en, IPA-he, IPA-ru, IPA-pl, IPA-es. Sorry to Angr for his compliance above. −Woodstone (talk) 18:33, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the problem is that {{IPA-ga}} already exists and is something completely different. I suppose I could move it to something like {{IPA-ga notice}}, edit the pages where it's transcluded to reflect the new title (there aren't many of them), and then move {{IPAga}} to {{IPA-ga}} to be consistent. —Angr 20:53, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That would be good, if you don't mind. I have created {{IPA-en}} as a redirect to {{IPAEng}} (to be reversed later). We can update the documentation to show the new standardised naming and declare the old ones obsolete. −Woodstone (talk) 21:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, the notice is now at {{IPA-ga notice}} and the inline template for IPA transcriptions is t {{IPA-ga}}. —Angr 07:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IPA generic

I adapted the template names to be more consistent, as proposed above, in the document. I created he new names as redirects to the old ones. Later we can reverse the redirect. Hopefully we can get a bot to clean up the old instances.

I also want to rename the inelegant "IPA2", but don't know what to use as new name. "IPA" is already in use, "IPA-int(ernational)" is a pleonasm. Might it be "IPA-full"? Or "IPA-IPA"? Or "IPA-general"? −Woodstone (talk) 16:00, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why didn't you just move the templates? As for IPA2, why not keep it where it is since there's nothing obvious to move it to? Don't forget what Emerson said about "foolish consistency". —Angr 17:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I did not think a move would adapt all references, as you seem to imply. Not for consistency per se, but IPA2 is so irritatingly non-descriptive. Plain IPA would be good, but that would need the existing IPA to be changed into something like IPA-font and it would become inconsistent with the IPA css class. Too many implications. −Woodstone (talk) 17:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean by "adapt all references"? —Angr 20:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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