Talk:Lord Voldemort

Template:HP-project To be "theft of a dead body" wouldn't it have to be "vol d'un mort"? Basil Fawlty

My French is rusty, but if you're right, wouldn't that make "vol de mort" "theft of death"? -- Jim Regan 01:30 4 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The Czech anagram is actually in Spanish! It should be "Já" not "Soy"... -- Arwel 19:48 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I don't know who of you wrote this article, but in the German site, it doesn't exist. Would it be possible if I could take out pieces out of it and translate it for the germans? Thanks User:Jaanalohff

On the bottom of every page, it says "If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, do not submit it." So that means you can redistribute this material, and redisributing includes translating and putting on another part of a site. User:bobguy7

The Horcruxes

One thing I never understood about the number of horcruxes was this: If Voldemort had six and lost two (The diary and the ring), he should have four left, as stated in the book. However, he lost a horcrux when he failed to kill Harry, right? Wouldn't that leave him in three pieces?

Dumbledore theorized that the sixth Horcrux was created later with the murder of Frank Bryce, and that it was Nagini. Sinistro 09:40, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Voldemort's House

Is it ever explicitly stated that Riddle was in Slytherin? I know it seems logical, but I don't remember them saying it outright. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 12:30, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)

Hagrid said Voldemort was in Slytherin, and since Riddle is Voldemort, than Riddle was in Slytherin.

Which book does Hagrid say that in? Are you refering to the line that "there never was a bad wizard who wasn't in Slytherin"? Because, that line has proven itself to be hyperbole (Peter Pettigrew, etc.) - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 04:41, Jul 9, 2004 (UTC)

Just after that line about Slytherin and Dark Wizards, Harry asks Hagrid "You-Know-Who was one? [Slytherin]" and Hagrid answers "Years n' years ago". Sinistro 07:36, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Much about the nature of Voldemort was revealed in The Half-Blood Prince. Should we wait for the book to settle into existence before updating the article appropriately?

That's what I was wondering, I just finished the book, and I'm bursting to write about it.

Why not write in the HPB info and just use a spoiler warning? How about {{spoiler-about|Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince}} ? WhyBeNormal 07:32, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

Birthday?

Tom Riddle and Voldemort have different birthdays in these articles. It says Tom was born 12-31-26, and Voldemort was born 12-31-25. Voldemort couldn't be younger than Tom Riddle? ;)

lol, your right. There are two different schools of thought here. The Chamber of secrets was opened fifty years from 1993 at which time Tom Riddle was sixteen so minus 66 years and he was born on New Years Eve 1927. But according to the "official timeline" from some DVD Hagrid was expelled in 1942 so Voldemort being 16 in 1942 would have been born in 1926. I trust the books more so I'm in favor of going with 1927 as the birthdate, which would make both articles wrong. *shrugs* TonyJoe 14:33, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How about we say December 31, 1926 or January 1, 1927? Hermione1980 15:52, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Table

Why is style="white-space:nowrap;" used in the name table?

Furthermore the notes should be put underneath the entry they elaborate on in order to fix the table on the screen. - Roy Boy ⁸⁰⁰ 15:20, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Death

The thing that Voldemort fears most is death. HBP gave me the impression that this is because his mother died while giving birth to him. His remark about her obviously not being a witch because she died in childbirth shows that he sees death as something unnecessary. Does anybody else think this, and if so, should it be included in the article? Benji man 21:28, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

JKR said why his worst fear is death in the MuggleNet/Leaky Cauldron interview. "..He thinks that it's a shameful human weakness..." (from part 2). I think it would be a good idea to include infomation about his worst fear with the infomation about the steps he took to become immortal (the Horcruxes). --WhyBeNormal 07:48, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

Making a horcrux

It appears that Tom Riddle is a separate article, primarily on the theory that this is preferable to a redirect, which would effectively disclose Riddle's identity without warning to someone who has not finished reading Chamber of Secrets. At the same time, that article basically has no content and this one is beginning to get bulky. May I suggest that some of the material here should be moved there, and only summarized more briefly here?

A sensible way to do this is based on his own use of the names; the period in which he was known as Tom Riddle should be discussed primarily at that location, and the period in which he was known as Lord Voldemort should stay here. --Michael Snow 21:31, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Dark Years

Wouldnt that be "the non-dark years" or "the light years" because Voldemort wasn't around? Supersaiyanplough|^(talk) 03:09, 21 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It was the Dark Years as far as Voldemort was concerned! He was as powerless as possible, while staying just alive enough to know it and suffer. That should have been pretty unpleasant. Sinistro 08:58, 21 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible that we could come up with a better name for this section than "The Dark Years"? I don't recall it ever being refered to as such in canon nor is it common in the online fandom. It's a bit foggy as Supersaiyanplough said. Dark for whom? Voldemort? Certainly not Britain. I've always heard him refered to as "Vapormort" perhaps the "Vapormort Years", "Hiding and Exile", "Albania", "Disembodiment", "Disembodiment and Posession", or even simpler, "Post Halloween 1981- the summer of 1994". Maybe not any of these but surely something better and more clear than the dark years? TonyJoe
I changed it to "The Years of Exile". I think it's as close to the previous heading as possible but a lot clearer. How does it look? Sinistro 23:44, 5 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

It's been suggested on the Tom Riddle, Lord Voldemort, and the Wikipedia:WikiProject Harry Potter page that the the Tom Riddle and Lord Voldemort pages be merged and one be made a oft redirect.Sounds like a good idea but no one ever did anything about it so... here I am. Objections? TonyJoe 00:48, 14 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Spoiler problems. If someone does research on Tom Riddle and then gets redirected to Voldemort, and they're reading, say, the second book, they'll be all "AWWH THE BOOK IS RUINED." See Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader for an example of two articles of the same character. MessedRocker 21:20, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

Tom Riddle and Voldemort are two different people. Tom was just a kid at an orphanage until he found out that he is a wizard and he became obsessed with his new-found power. A this point he becomes Voldemort much like Anakin Skywalker becomes Darth Vader.

The Dark Lord

THe Dark Lord will always prevail... Draco Malfoy 18:44, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for sharing.

Referring to Voldemort as "Voldemort"

The introduction mentions that most refer to Voldemort as "He who must not be named." Would it be worth while to add explicit information about who doesn't? As far as I can tell, it's Dumbledore and Harry in books 1-5 and add Hermione and Ginny in book 6. Actually, the latter two are quite jarring as there is no explaination by the characters or the narrator. It's quite possible that I'm not paying close attention to the books, too. --1pezguy 03:18, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

It is mentioned in the page for Ginny, but not for Hermoine or Dumbledore on a not so careful reading. --1pezguy 03:23, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

Quirrel also refers to him as Voldemort in book 1 19:03, 18 August 2005 (UTC)~

hipocracy

if voldemort is Tom Riddle... and Tom Riddle is the son of a which mother and muggle father, then is it not hipocritical for voldemort to hate half-bloods or mudbloods even?? being one himself i mean. as as for his ancestor, salzar slitherin, also one who hates those who are not pure bloods... wouldnt he be ashamed to know that one of his decendants was a muggle lover??

First of all, it has already been adressed in the books that he is disgusted with the fact that his father was a muggle and he refused to keep his father's name and even murdered him and his parents. Second of all, if you are going to ask a question that advertizes your ignorance, you could at least use proper grammar to make it seem just a little bit serious.