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May 20
Template:Infobox image
With Template:Infobox afl player you can choose how big or small you wish the image to be. I've created Template:Infobox Victorian Football League season and implemented it at 1930 VFL season but I am unable to adjust the size of the picture. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers. Crickettragic (talk) 02:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Mm. The problem could be that the Template:Infobox Victorian Football League season is not formatted properly or that the image itself cannot be resized. I will take a closer look.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 02:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- You must specify the size unit: px, em or %. For 1930 VFL season, you set it to 150px. ----— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 09:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, Gadget. I tried changing the 150px but for some odd reason it stayed the same size.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 09:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)- I was thinking something else. :) Never mind.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 09:20, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks guys that's exactly what I was after! Cheers Crickettragic (talk) 10:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- You must specify the size unit: px, em or %. For 1930 VFL season, you set it to 150px. ----— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 09:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Resetting "left" alignment
In the Cockapoo article it seems that the Height/Weight table near the bottom of the page is causing the subsequent sections to align to it rather than to the left of the page as would be typical. I've tried to reset using <br clear='all'> but it didn't help. Any ideas? --hydnjo talk 03:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hehe, fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 03:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well then, thanks for the "|}". You must be pretty good at this s*** to spot that so quickly. --hydnjo talk 03:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Your welcome, and it is more knowing where to look than any special knowledge about formatting :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 03:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well then, thanks for the "|}". You must be pretty good at this s*** to spot that so quickly. --hydnjo talk 03:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Losing the "References" index
Well then, do you think that a similar defect (re the previous posting) might be causing the loss of reference indexing at #173 in the Mike Huckabee article? --hydnjo talk 04:09, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Are you pointing at ref #140? There seems to be an invalid ref there. I'll try to fix it.RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 04:17, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Eek, that too (I missed that one)! But #141 seems OK whereas all starting at #173 don't seem to sync. --hydnjo talk 04:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Wow, #140 seems impossible to fix. I tried about 6 times and nothing seems to work. Do you think I should remove that ref? In the meantime, I'll see your other problem with the article.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 04:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, remove #140 and let someone else restore it properly. The #173 problem is more serious in that it screws up all of the subsequent refs. Thanks for your efforts - like I said on the talk page, it's way above my pay grade. --hydnjo talk 04:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'll go head and do that. I'll try to see the problem with #173. Actually, I have to be offline now. I'm a busy person. Someone else will probably find the problem. Regards, RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 04:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- With #140 gone the subsequent refs get reassigned so that the previous #173 problem is now the #172 problem (just in case someone else is trying to follow along). --hydnjo talk 04:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
This was a good one:
- When you hover over the ^ that begins the ref, it should popup with the backlink; the number at the end is one less than the ref number (it starts with 0). Look at ref 165— it pops up with 189.
- Ref 164: the cite template was malformed- it does not end with }}
- Ref 189, under "Controversial public comments" had a malformed citation template that began with one "{".
- So- everything between 164 and 189 was being eaten by the template.
- Also: Looking at 165 inline, it is <ref name="abcaids" />. The problem is that this named ref was defined two paragraphs down. It should have given an error, but I think it was suppressed by the malformed template.
- You really need to work all of the cites into templates. The reference section looks awful with all of those long URLs cutting across the columns.
- You should run the article through LinkChecker and weed out any dead links.
--— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 09:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks Gaget for your fixes and your suggestions which I'll post on the article's talk page. --hydnjo talk 15:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- You are welcome. This was a nice little puzzle: one template was not closed properly, the other not opened properly causing the content in between to be nested. I will have to play with some variations to see what else might break. ----— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 15:29, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
making Javascript click on "edit this page"
Using Javascript, how do you "click" on the "edit this page" button? J.delanoygabsadds 04:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- What? Could you clarify a bit? I don't really get what you're asking... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- To open the editpage in a new window/tab:
window.open(wgServer + wgScript + "?title=" + wgPageName + "&action=edit");
- Or to open it in the same window/tab:
window.location.href = wgServer + wgScript + "?title=" + wgPageName + "&action=edit";
-- Mr.Z-man 05:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps what you are tying to do is follow the instructions for adding javascript to your wikipedia to perform some function, such as installing WP:TWINKLE or something similar. What you need to go is go to User:YourUsernameHere/monobook.js and from there you should see an "edit this page" at the top... Tiggerjay (talk) 06:33, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- What I want to do is make it so that when I click on a button, it opens the "edit this page" link and executes this code.
- Perhaps what you are tying to do is follow the instructions for adding javascript to your wikipedia to perform some function, such as installing WP:TWINKLE or something similar. What you need to go is go to User:YourUsernameHere/monobook.js and from there you should see an "edit this page" at the top... Tiggerjay (talk) 06:33, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
/* <pre> */
function welcome() {
// Find the edit box
var txt = document.editform.wpTextbox1;
//The welcome template you are wanting to use
var welcome_msg = 'User:J.delanoy/welcome'
// The code to be added to the page
var tag = '{{'+'subst'+':'+ welcome_msg +'}}';
// If the edit box doesn't already have this tag...
if (txt.value.indexOf(tag) == -1) {
// Append the tag
txt.value += tag;
// Add an edit summary
document.editform.wpSummary.value = 'Welcome to Wikipedia!';
// Press the Save page button
document.editform.submit();
}
// If the tag was already there, turn the tab background red to indicate
// that the script is functioning properly, but that there is no action
// to do. This doesn't interrupt the user's work like an alert() would.
else {
document.getElementById('ca-unverified').firstChild.style.backgroundColor = "#ff4444";
document.getElementById('ca-unverified').style.backgroundColor = "#ff4444";
}
}
// Code used if not editing page
/* <pre> */
// THIS PART HERE IS ME TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT
function welcome2() {
//THIS HERE IS MY ATTEMPT. I WANT TO INSERT CODE HERE THAT OPENS THE "EDIT THIS PAGE" LINK...
var form = this.responseXML.getElementById( 'editform' );
var tag = form.wpTextbox1.value;
var tag = '{{'+'subst'+':'+ welcome_msg +'}}';
//AND THEN EXECUTES THE CODE BELOW....
// Find the edit box
var txt = document.editform.wpTextbox1;
//The welcome template you are wanting to use
var welcome_msg = 'User:J.delanoy/welcome'
// The code to be added to the page
var tag = '{{'+'subst'+':'+ welcome_msg +'}}';
// If the edit box doesn't already have this tag...
if (txt.value.indexOf(form) == -1) {
// Append the tag
txt.value += form;
// Add an edit summary
document.editform.wpSummary.value = 'Welcome to Wikipedia!';
// Press the Save page button
document.editform.submit();
}
// If the tag was already there, turn the tab background red to indicate
// that the script is functioning properly, but that there is no action
// to do. This doesn't interrupt the user's work like an alert() would.
else {
document.getElementById('ca-unverified').firstChild.style.backgroundColor = "#ff4444";
document.getElementById('ca-unverified').style.backgroundColor = "#ff4444";
}
}
// Create a tab that calls this function when pressed
addOnloadHook(function () {
if(document.title.indexOf("User talk:") == 0) {
addPortletLink('p-cactions', 'javascript:welcome2()', 'welcome', 'ca-welcome', 'Adds a welcome note to a new user', '', '');
}
if(document.title.indexOf("Editing User talk:") == 0) {
addPortletLink('p-cactions', 'javascript:welcome()', 'welcome', 'ca-welcome', 'Adds a welcome note to a new user', '', '');
}
});
- Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I was asleep... J.delanoygabsadds 13:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
complaining for nagercoil town secretery
Dear sir
<post removed>
Thank you for your action —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.93.129.107 (talk) 06:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- This page is only for questions about USING Wikipedia. It seems your question is non-wikipedia related. Thank you.
--RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 06:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not the place to bring your complaint. Sometimes people see one of our over two million articles and make an assumption that the site is connected with the subject of the article, which is I think what happened here. However, please undestand that Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia with over 2 million articles, written by a huge number of volunteers; we have no direct connection with the entity you are writing about. I have removed the text of your post as we do not allow personal attacks on persons and entities to remain. Thanks for understanding.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:33, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Signature
Is it ok for me to have a colorful signature like this? Bed-Head-HairUser:BedHeadHairGirl12:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- It's fine, unless it causes problems for people with color blindness. The signature guidelines are here. Epbr123 (talk) 12:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you :) I will go and read that now. Bed-Head-HairUser:BedHeadHairGirlBed-Head-Hair 12:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Generally, signatures are encourages not to contain text which is taller than the standard line height, therefore I would encourage you to remove the <big></big> tags and perhaps consider using <small></small> tags if you want contrasting text size. The colours are fine, though! haz (talk) 12:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- I would say, though, that I find the yellow a little hard to read. Epbr123 (talk) 12:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Generally, signatures are encourages not to contain text which is taller than the standard line height, therefore I would encourage you to remove the <big></big> tags and perhaps consider using <small></small> tags if you want contrasting text size. The colours are fine, though! haz (talk) 12:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Is now ok? Bed-Head-HairUser:BedHeadHairGirl12:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
I've changed it to this Bed-Head-HairUser:BedHeadHairGirl12:31, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- I think that's fine. Epbr123 (talk) 12:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
how do you look up the meaning of a word in wikipedia?
does your site have a dictionary facility such as an oxford dictionary? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.240.117.96 (talk) 13:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject South America template banner
At Talk:María del Luján Telpuk, I am having trouble with the {{WikiProject South America}}. It is missing a space after the name of the project as it appears on the talk page. More importantly, it is transcluding from either {{WP Venezuela}}, or {{WikiProject Argentina}}, but in the transclusion it does not nest when necessary.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- If you have a look at {{WP Venezuela}}, it is a soft redirect to {{WikiProject South America}}. There is a provision in the South America template to include
Venezuela=yes
andVenezuela-importance=
. I have removed the Venezuela one and replaced it with the provisions. I haven't filled out the importance rating, I leave to that someone from the project. Regards. Woody (talk) 14:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Username
I would like to create the account: Sir Monty. Will this username be allowed? or will it be deleted? 92.5.36.7 (talk) 15:23, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- That should be fine. The username policy is located at WP:U, and since the name isn't misleading, offensive, promotional or similar to another established user, you should be good to go. You can either create the account yourself, or request it if you are unable to create the account for some reason. haz (talk) 15:28, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- It doesn't yet exist, according to Special:Listusers...... Dendodge .. TalkHelp 15:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- I can't. Sirmonty exists. 92.5.36.7 (talk) 15:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Request an account; you can request the account via email if you like. Otherwise, select a different name. --ais523 15:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- But I have created King Monty IV (King Monty IV (talk)). I have another question (see below). King Monty IV (talk) 15:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Request an account; you can request the account via email if you like. Otherwise, select a different name. --ais523 15:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- I can't. Sirmonty exists. 92.5.36.7 (talk) 15:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- It doesn't yet exist, according to Special:Listusers...... Dendodge .. TalkHelp 15:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Userpage
I ran a wiki where under my policies, I discouraged userpages and changes in signatures. I know how to edit, but how do you get them cool personalised sigs and userpages. Who makes them or can I make one (if I can, how?) King Monty IV (talk) 15:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, you can make them. Your userpage is linked from your signature, and you can edit it just like any other page; your signature's accessible via Special:Preferences, and if you uncheck 'Use raw signature' you can write your signature in wikimarkup (although make sure you give a link to your userpage and/or talkpage). For more information: Wikipedia:Userpage, Wikipedia:Signatures, Wikipedia:How to fix your signature. --ais523 15:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. But is there any guides on making the boxes and stuff in a userpage. King Monty IV (talk) 15:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- (ec x2) ais523 is right, but you need to make sure it conforms to the signature guidelines at Wikipedia:Signatures. If your signature is too extravagant or if its raw source is too long, you may be asked to change it – just use common sense and the guidelines on the above page. See Wikipedia:User page for information on what you can and cannot do with it. Hope that helps. haz (talk) 15:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Userboxes are explained and listed at Wikipedia:Userboxes. Olaf Davis | Talk 16:15, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- You should get to know the Editor's index, where you can look up all these instructions. For example, see: WP:EIW#Userbox, WP:EIW#UserPage, and the cross-reference links from those entries. --Teratornis (talk) 20:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- You can look at the Wikipedia:User Page Design Center and WP:UBX for more info on creating userboxes, designing user pages, etc.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 03:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- For users who design user pages (like me), you can request as Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help. --RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 03:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- You can look at the Wikipedia:User Page Design Center and WP:UBX for more info on creating userboxes, designing user pages, etc.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 03:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- You should get to know the Editor's index, where you can look up all these instructions. For example, see: WP:EIW#Userbox, WP:EIW#UserPage, and the cross-reference links from those entries. --Teratornis (talk) 20:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. But is there any guides on making the boxes and stuff in a userpage. King Monty IV (talk) 15:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Talk page GA icon
I just noticed a GA icon at the top of Talk:María del Luján Telpuk. I have never noticed such an icon on any of my GAs before. How can I get it on all my GAs? Is it possible for such an icon to appear on the article page?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 16:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- This has been discussed before, and it's apparently not a good idea. The discussion (at WT:GA?) had consensus against doing so, I believe...... Dendodge .. TalkHelp 16:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Move along, nothing to see. This was just discussed a few weeks ago, and I really don't want to see another excessive debate. You can put the GA symbol on your userpage to signify your GAs. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 16:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- But where's it coming from? I don't see a source (template? part of a template?) for it. PeterSymonds (talk) 16:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Something to do with this edit to the Template:GA? If it is, I don't understand why it's not showing up on every GA talk page. PeterSymonds (talk) 16:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Because {{GA}} is only transcluded on two article talk pages? Algebraist 16:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- I seem to have missed the debate about GA icons on article pages that Juliancolton refers to. Can someone show me the debate.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if it was archived, but it was a large discussion at WT:GA that took place for a couple weeks. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 12:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Move along, nothing to see. This was just discussed a few weeks ago, and I really don't want to see another excessive debate. You can put the GA symbol on your userpage to signify your GAs. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 16:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Image Upload from Commons
I've put an image on the next DYK template, and need to protect it for when it appears on the Main Page. Or rather, since the image is on Commons, I need to C-upload it and protect that. However, the uploader won't let me save an image with the same name as one on Commons. Is there a convention for naming the second copy, or a way to circumvent that?
Also, the licence tag on the original image is "public domain in the United States, and those countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 80 years or less." But as far as I can make out none of the licenses available on the Wikipedia upload page are exactly equivalent to this - why is that? Olaf Davis | Talk 16:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I've uploaded the image and placed the {{C-uploaded}} template. I'm pretty sure the license is life of the author plus eighty years. PeterSymonds (talk) 17:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks Peter. Could you explain why I was having trouble with the name for next time? Also, the "author plus eighty years" license wasn't listed in the uploader; indeed, Template:PD-old-80 which you've placed there is redlinked. Olaf Davis | Talk 17:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well I've only updated the DYK once, and that was the only occasion I had to upload a duplicate image. Maybe it's an admin thing? I'm not sure. Oh, the license is {{PD-US}}, so I'll correct that! PeterSymonds (talk) 17:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Problems with new account
Okay, I created a new account because of privacy concerns. Only, I can't get the Gadgets in my preferences to activate. I've flushed my cache, even told Firefox (3rc1) to clear all my offline data, and Twinkle & the clock won't load. Any suggestions? — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 16:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Twinkle only works for autoconfirmed users, accounts that are four days old. Not sure about the clock though... I assume you mean the "purge" clock? That should work for all registered users. PeterSymonds (talk) 16:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, duh, I forgot about the autoconfirm. So I won't get Twinkle until the weekend... nuts. But yes, the "purge" clock in Gadgets isn't coming up either. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 17:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Try pasting this into your monobook.js. PeterSymonds (talk) 17:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- That's not working either. And now I see that User:Ais523/votesymbols.js & User:Ais523/adminrights.js aren't loading either. And I've tried in another Firefox-based browser, and Safari, so it's still not working. The only thing I can figure is that scripts are disabled entirely until an account is auto-confirmed, which kinda sucks. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 17:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe you could try disabling all gadgets, wiping your monobook.js, and then installing a simple script to see if it works? Also, remember that you have to bypass your cache after script changes. --ais523 20:48, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- No go. In fact, I logged out of this account and into my old (retired) account, and all of its scripts are working just fine. Logged back here, flushed my cache (again) and still nothing. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 20:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, scripts don't work on Special:Preferences, so maybe cache-flushing there doesn't work. Otherwise, I can't really think of anything. (I'm not aware of a scripts-to-autoconfirmed restriction, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist). --ais523 21:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I meant scripts in my monobook.js file, but yeah. I opened a thread on Village pump Techincal to see if anyone knows what's going on there. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 21:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, scripts don't work on Special:Preferences, so maybe cache-flushing there doesn't work. Otherwise, I can't really think of anything. (I'm not aware of a scripts-to-autoconfirmed restriction, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist). --ais523 21:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- No go. In fact, I logged out of this account and into my old (retired) account, and all of its scripts are working just fine. Logged back here, flushed my cache (again) and still nothing. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 20:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe you could try disabling all gadgets, wiping your monobook.js, and then installing a simple script to see if it works? Also, remember that you have to bypass your cache after script changes. --ais523 20:48, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- That's not working either. And now I see that User:Ais523/votesymbols.js & User:Ais523/adminrights.js aren't loading either. And I've tried in another Firefox-based browser, and Safari, so it's still not working. The only thing I can figure is that scripts are disabled entirely until an account is auto-confirmed, which kinda sucks. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 17:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Try pasting this into your monobook.js. PeterSymonds (talk) 17:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, duh, I forgot about the autoconfirm. So I won't get Twinkle until the weekend... nuts. But yes, the "purge" clock in Gadgets isn't coming up either. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 17:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Exporting images
I'm in the process of making another wiki (Based on MediaWiki of course), and so would want to export some Wikipedia's images (No copyright problems as I know of) to that wiki. Is the only way I can do saving those images on my system and re-importing them to that wiki...? Are there easier methods?--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 17:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- If the images are not copyrighted and have been released under a free use license, then you can move them to Commons. Otherwise, the method you described is probably your best option. See Wikipedia:Image use policy for more information. Hope that helps. haz (talk) 17:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- See also: WP:DUMP#Images and uploaded files and WP:DUMP#Currently Wikipedia does not allow or provide facilities to download all Images. --Teratornis (talk) 19:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Haz: I'm not using Wikia, so putting pics to commons are of no use to me. --Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 01:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
how to publish an article? The Speaker's House (talk) 18:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia,
I could not find an answer to this question in your FAQ's section, so i am asking it here. I am writing an article on a historical house known as The Speaker's House. When I am done writing this article on Wikipedia, and after i have fully edited it and put all the citations in, how do i make it appear as a searchable topic on wikipeida, in the words how do i publish it on wikipedia, thus making it a legitimate page for people to visit and read.
Thanks,
David Muir —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Speaker's House (talk • contribs)
- You created the article in your userpage. Do you want me to move it to the article space? J.delanoygabsadds 18:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Once a page is created it can be searched. See Help:Starting a new pageGtstrickyTalk or C 18:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Secure login incompatible with editng?
I've been trying to edit the page Talk:Unit_of_selection. I find that when I preview the result, my signature shows my IP address, instead of my Wikipedia ID. So I go to login through the secure server. Then I end up at https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page . So I navigate to the talk page in that server.
Everything looks good until I "Click here to start a new topic" (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Unit_of_selection&action=edit§ion=new). Presto! I'm anonymous, and my 4 tilde signature shows my IP address.
I don't know if the problem is local to that page, that project, Wikipedia, or the MediaWiki software. I've already burned way too much time on a simple citation-needed. I gotta go.
--RickJS (talk) 18:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Intersting, when I used your link - it kicked me out -- but when I went there on my own, it worked fine... Ah, I think the problem IS your link -- see that your link is http://en.wiki.... instead of https://secure.wiki.... -- make sure that you're logged in, and the go to the page by searching "Unit of selection" and then talk, then new section... Give that a try. Tiggerjay (talk) 19:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, see I'd suggest the opposite. If you're signed into the secure server, you should edit the secure version of the page. It looks like you signed into the secure serve then tried to edit a "normal" page. I'm supposing that you'd need to be signed in "normally" to edit a "normal" page and so on. Seraphim♥Whipp 19:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
If you're using Firefox (or some other browser that supports Greasemonkey scripts), may I suggest a couple that I've written: secure Wikimedia links and prevent anon editing. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 22:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
log-in issue...
hello dear contributors,
wow this is a big massage box for a simple question i'm going to ask...
question:
i have a wiki username, when i already logged in to the english language page, on the chinese language page it seemed i am still out or non exist. is that normal? i would not want to register again to the chinese page, and i hope it has nothing to do with some exclusive chinese rules other than those of wiki's, it's a free encyclopedia no? i'm on mac, browsers tried are safari/camino/icab/firefox. thank you and hope to hear from you soon!
Meteque (talk) 21:28, 20 May 2008 (UTC) josie?
(how to really sign my name?)
- First you just need ~~~~, not a name. Unfortunately, yes you do need to sign up separate accounts on each language and on each project. Single account login is on the way, and it's in beta for admins. Paragon12321 (talk) 21:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Infobox Company Error
When i use the following code;
My page says this;
Template loop detected: Template:Infobox Company
"Gaia-Wind" are a company that develop and manufacture small and efficient wind turbines for supplying electricity to properties such as private homes, farms offices, and swimming pools.
History
Established in the mid 1990's in Aarhus, Denmark, the develpoment of the company coincided with a demonstration project by the Danish Wind Energy Association to support and and regenerate a market for small wind turbines.
In October 2006, Gaia-Wind was taken over by a group of investors committed to further improving the product and driving forward the international expansion of the company. Since this acquisition the Gaia-Wind has relocated to Scotland, and from 2007 has operated from its offices in Hillington, Glasgow.
Why. This makes no sense —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.127.199.234 (talk) 21:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Did you read the template documentation? Some fields are mandatory. Astronaut (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Javascript question
On the code below, why does it not execute the code after the first step? ("Open the 'edit this page' link") J.delanoygabsadds 23:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
function welcome2() {
// Open the "edit this page" link
window.location.href = wgServer + wgScript + "?title=" + wgPageName + "&action=edit"
// Find the edit box
var txt = document.editform.wpTextbox1;
//The welcome template you are wanting to use
var welcome_msg = 'User:J.delanoy/welcome';
// The code to be added to the page
var tag = '{{'+'subst'+':'+ welcome_msg +'}}';
// If the edit box doesn't already have this tag...
if (txt.value.indexOf(tag) == -1) {
// Append the tag
txt.value += tag;
// Add an edit summary
document.editform.wpSummary.value = 'Welcome to Wikipedia!';
// Press the Save page button
document.editform.submit();
}
// If the tag was already there, turn the tab background red to indicate
// that the script is functioning properly, but that there is no action
// to do. This doesn't interrupt the user's work like an alert() would.
else {
document.getElementById('ca-unverified').firstChild.style.backgroundColor = "#ff4444";
document.getElementById('ca-unverified').style.backgroundColor = "#ff4444";
}
}
// Create a tab that calls this function when pressed
addOnloadHook(function () {
if(document.title.indexOf("User talk:") == 0) {
addPortletLink('p-cactions', 'javascript:welcome2()', 'welcome', 'ca-welcome', 'Adds a welcome note to a new user', '', '');
}
if(document.title.indexOf("Editing User talk:") == 0) {
addPortletLink('p-cactions', 'javascript:welcome()', 'welcome', 'ca-welcome', 'Adds a welcome note to a new user', '', '');
}
});
- Because as soon as you change
window.location.href
, your browser load the new URL and any scripts on the old page stop running. There are various ways to work around that problem, but in your case, the simplest way might be to remove that line and only insert the tab when you're already editing a page. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 00:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)- I already had the code to do that(that's what
function welcome()
is, I just wanted to make it so that it would work either way. J.delanoygabsadds 02:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I already had the code to do that(that's what
Tagging or reporting HTML/CSS errors
I can't figure out how to tag an article which does not format correctly with specific browsers. I noticed that the V-Twin article has the edit links for sections 1-8 all rendered in the middle of section 8 when using Opera or Firefox. A quick look at the Wiki source left me clueless as to the cause, but I wanted to tag it for attention somehow. After fumbling around in the documentation for a bit I ended up here.
What is the correct way to tag flaws like this so that someone with more wiki-fu will notice?
Real Deuce (talk) 23:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- The problem is that the code that produces the pictures is all grouped at the top. I'll see if I can fix it, but I don't know how well I'll do. J.delanoygabsadds 23:44, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- This is called edit bunching and is an unfortunate artifact of WikiMarkup. See WP:BUNCH for further explanation and a fix. ----— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 23:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- I fixed it... J.delanoygabsadds 23:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- This is called edit bunching and is an unfortunate artifact of WikiMarkup. See WP:BUNCH for further explanation and a fix. ----— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 23:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks... but what is the correct way to tag flaws like this so that someone with more wiki-fu will notice?
- If you see this particular problem again, you should be able to fix it yourself with the instructions at WP:BUNCH. J.delanoy resolved this particular problem by wrapping the images in a table. WP:BUNCH will shou you how to do it using a template called {{FixBunching}} which effectively does the same thing. If you need more help, ask here. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, in the future, I should be able to fix this specific flaw, I was wondering if there's a general way of saying "This is broken and I don't know how to fix it." A simple "yes, use <whatever>" or "no, if you can't fix it, bring it here" would resolve this one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Real Deuce (talk • contribs) 22:44, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
May 21
Registered name not appearing after edition
Hi! I had registered my name on wikipedia.For two days my name did appear after editions,but now only I P No. appears.How to get my regd. name again.My registered name was sudhirbhargava
--117.198.128.108 (talk) 01:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Are you logging in? Wisdom89 (T / C) 01:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- You're not stating quite enough for us to tell what's going on so here's a bunch of answers to possible scenarios your post suggests to me. First, as Wisdom suggests, have you logged in? If you're having trouble doing that because you forgot your password, then you can request Wikipedia email you it (there's a button for this on the page I just linked). However, this will only work if you supplied your email address when you signed up. If you didn't, and can't remember your password, then you pretty much have to sign up for a new account; you password is unretrievable. If you're successfully logging in, but then soon afterwards it switches back to your ip address, make sure your have your computer set to allow cookies. If none of this addresses your issue, please add some detail about exactly what is going on.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
conflict of interest: neutral editor sought to make correction
An article about a different company wrongly attributes one of my company's features to them. To avoid conflict of interest I don't want to correct things myself, and no one took notice of a notice I posted on their discussion page a year ago.
In the article "Annals of Improbable Research", the third paragraph, "AIR received attention ..." actually refers to the magazine I now own, The Journal of Irreproducible Results, which also has a Wikipedia article. The article that paragraph is about was published in JIR's volume 25, #4, 1979. That was years before AIR even existed.
If you took that paragraph whole, and changed AIR to JIR, and transplanted it into the article about JIR, everything would be factually correct.
The owner-editor of AIR used to be editor of JIR. He had a big disagreement with the then-owner, and went off and set up his own magazine, AIR. He also had a big disagreement with the next owner of JIR. Then I bought JIR in 2004. Now, AIR and JIR are at peace, and no one is saying or doing anything bad to or about the other. I don't want to violate any conflict-of-interest principles, nor cause a hassle. I just want to correct a long-standing error that misleads readers about which famous articles appeared in which magazines.
I will be happy to supply whatever supplementary information you wish.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by StarryEye (talk • contribs) 01:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Please do not add personal info in your message. Thank you. --RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 01:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- You may want to post this on the article's talk page to bring this to the attention of other editors who are involved with that article. You can reach this page by clicking the "discussion" tab that appears at the top of the page when viewing the article. Hersfold (t/a/c) 02:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I've looked into the issue, and agree that the paragraph was in the wrong article, so I've moved the paragraph over and added a rationale on the discussion page. Hopefully I haven't been too bold. - Bilby (talk) 02:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
How to allow only Wikipedia editors to edit an article
Hi. How do you allow only wikipedia editors to edit an article and block non-editors with I.P. addresses from editing an article? Sonic99 (talk) 03:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, you would have to be an administrator or request at WP:RFPP. Hope that helps. :) --RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 03:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- But note that there has to be a good reason for it, like recent heavy vandalism. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, and it's called protection, and the relevant policy page is here. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Also, what you are talking about "preventing IPs from editing articles", that is called semi-protection. Admins can actually block wikipedia users also from editing fully protected pages so that IPs and users can't edit them and only admins can.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 03:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- But note that there has to be a good reason for it, like recent heavy vandalism. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- What exactly are you attempting to accomplish here. Just a reminder about ownership of all wikipedia content. Tiggerjay (talk) 05:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Effectively it's only technically possible in response to an incident, usually high levels of vandalism. The rest of the criteria for semi-protection is in the protection policy. Your page will not be protected if it doesn't meet those criteria. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 06:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Also note that everyone who edits Wikipedia is an "editor" whether they have created an account or not. The correct terms are "registered editors" and "unregistered editors." A registered editor can also edit as an unregistered editor by not logging in before editing, so one might also speak of "logged-in editors" and "non-logged-in editors." At the moment, the English Wikipedia has 48,231,441 registered editors, not all of whom are active, distinct, or even necessarily alive (may they rest in peace). --Teratornis (talk) 15:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Since unregistered editors account for about 97% of vandalism on Wikipedia, perhaps your question is really a question about your "step" rather than your "goal" (see How to ask questions the smart way for an explanation of "step" and "goal"). If your goal is to fight vandalism, see WP:EIW#Vandal. --Teratornis (talk) 16:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
is Kerala land ecsclamated from the sea?
There are foklores and stories that God has created Kerala, or the land has ecsclamated from the sea millions ofyears ago when main land of india joined with the northern land. Please give some insight to this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.96.105.117 (talk) 07:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- The help desk is only for help needed for USING wikipedia. It seems your question is non-wikipedia related. --RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 07:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
invisible spans
Hi !
I just removed 3 span visibility="hidden" from Elderly Instruments (the current frontpage FA), to me it looked like pure vandalism. I just wanted to make sure I was doing the right thing, since this is a high-visibility article currently.
Is there in general any reason to have sections in articles that are invisible ? Or are these always vandalism, except perhaps when they contain information meant for other editors ? Eivind Kjørstad (talk) 08:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Okay, let me have a look. Give me a minute. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 08:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Yep, seems to be vandalism to me, no doubt. Generally, I can't see any reason that something should be hidden in an article. Glad I could help out. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 08:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I thougth so. If something was removed for being somehow inapropriate it'd make more sense to simply delete it -- seeing as we've got version-control and thus the ability to reinstate deleted text if needed anyway. Thank you for your help ! Eivind Kjørstad (talk) 09:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Uploading Images - size and method question
Two questions both quite simple but I cannot find a definitive answer:
- A 10MP camera will grab a 5MB JPG file, should I downsample the images first or just upload them 'as-is'? I am guessing you want them verbatim but thought I would check
- Is there an interactive utility for uploading images? On an ADSL line it takes some minutes with the browser doing nothing. If there is a problem it can take five minutes to find out :) I am using Windows.
RobChafer (talk) 09:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Depends on what you are doing with the image and the article. Should it be cropped to better illustrate the subject? If the images are not copyrighted, consider uploading them to Wikimedia Commons.
- The upload file page is it. Even on a faster connection, it can sometimes sit in dumb and happy mode for a bit.
--— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 10:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Need help archiving my talk page.
I have been trying for a long time now to archive my talk page using Mizabot. I tried almost all options given by this bot like, limiting size of the talkpage, archiving the threads based on some days, archiving the talk page based on the days, etc...but none seem to work. These are current settings-
{{User:MiszaBot/config
|counter = 1
|algo = old(5d)
|maxarchivesize = 10K
|archive = User talk:gppande/Archive %(counter)d
}}
{{archivebox|auto=yes}}
Can someone have a look at it and help me. My talkpage is getting too big to handle. --gppande «talk» 10:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I think the archive page needs to be created before the bot will start to archive. Should work now. You can always cut and paste too. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 15:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Your user name needs to be capitalized. User talk:Gppande/Archive That is an easy thing to miss. GtstrickyTalk or C 15:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I tried to capitalize my username completely - GPPANDE and didn't work. So I have modified to below - let's see if this works today. I appreciate your help here. --gppande «talk» 15:47, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
{{User:MiszaBot/config
|counter = 1
|algo = old(5d)
|maxarchivesize = 10K
|archive = User talk:Gppande/Archive %(counter)d
}}
{{archivebox|auto=yes}}
Infobox_road map size
Is it possible to scale the map size in {{Infobox_road}} to match the width of the main image at Historic Michigan Boulevard District?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 15:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- If you set the infobox parameter
map_custom = yes
then you can use a standard image link ([[Image:Example.jpg|parameters]]
) instead of just entering the image name and having the template set the standard image options. Hope that helps. haz (talk) 15:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)- And if you haven't memorized the standard image options, see: Help:Images and other uploaded files. Incidentally, Template:Infobox road/doc could do a better job of explaining how to use the
map_custom
option in conjunction with themap
option. At the moment one pretty much has to read the template code to figure out how that works. --Teratornis (talk) 16:13, 21 May 2008 (UTC)- Indeed, that's how I had to work it out... the {{infobox road}} documentation mentions the map_custom field, but doesn't give any tips on how to use it. haz (talk) 16:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I remember this template from a previous question. The parameter map_notes is not documented at all. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, if we see an internal document on Wikipedia that is missing some needed information, and the missing information generates questions on the Help desk, that situation is crying out for someone to fix it. There is a tendency for people to figure something out, and then once they know the information they need, they don't think about the next unlucky user who will have to reinvent the same wheel. I'm as guilty of that as anyone, but for Wikipedia to advance at maximum efficiency, we should try to feed back our improvements into the manuals as we find deficiencies. On the Help desk we should not only answer questions, but try to figure out why the answer wasn't obvious to the questioner, and then see if we can make it more obvious to the next user who stumbles into the same situation. So I tried. --Teratornis (talk) 23:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I remember this template from a previous question. The parameter map_notes is not documented at all. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Indeed, that's how I had to work it out... the {{infobox road}} documentation mentions the map_custom field, but doesn't give any tips on how to use it. haz (talk) 16:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- And if you haven't memorized the standard image options, see: Help:Images and other uploaded files. Incidentally, Template:Infobox road/doc could do a better job of explaining how to use the
Wikilinks
I don't know how to link Peter Tork's name to his page. Someone please explain . . . Hmichele (talk) 16:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject
I've worked on other wikis without WikiProjects. How do you join. Do I add my name to a list or something? Could you give me some links. Its the Simpsons WikiProject I want to join, as I did some work on Pray Anything. Doughnuts...Mmm! (talk) 17:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- The Simpsons WikiProject has instructions at Wikipedia:WikiProject The Simpsons#Participants. Follow those instructions; if you need help, fire away. x42bn6 Talk Mess 17:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- General information about WikiProjects is at WP:PROJ and WP:PROJGUIDE. More technical details: WP:EIW#WikiProject. --Teratornis (talk) 01:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Howto link a definition?
It seems that the only allowed internal link targets are pages, and sections within a page. I would like to link to a definition term (as in a definition list used as a glossary). Is there any way to do this?
If not, might I suggest that the list of internal link targets be expanded to include definition terms, in addition to sections and pages.
jonb (talk) 19:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- What exact term are you trying to link to, and in what context? haz (talk) 19:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Any definition term that I or others might define using the definition list formatting convention ";Definition Term: Definition Text". I would like to be able to link to such a definition, whether from within a nother definition, or from within another page.
jonb (talk) 19:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- You have to create an anchor and link to it— the template {{anchor}} can do that. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- (ec)You can also link to our sister project Wiktionary by using the following format: [[wikt:WORD|WORD]] replacing the 2 instances of WORD with the term you want to define. So say I wanted to define chicken, I could do this: Chicken. We usually only links terms to Wiktionary when the terms are technical, or not easily understood without defining it. This means that every word should not be linked to a definition, just a select few. Hope that helps. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 19:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I was hoping for something less formal for internal use than having to add our terms to Wiktionary.
jonb (talk) 19:58, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I tried your suggestion, but the text "Template:Anchor" shows up in the page as a page link. And, linking to anchor does not make the page jump to it. Do I have to enable templates or something? (I've never used them).
In any case, it would sure make a lot of sense if definition terms were automatically made link targets -- what is the point of defining a term if you can't link to it?
jonb (talk) 19:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
The definition the OP is referring to is using the definition wikimarkup using ";" and ":" that can be used to build a list of terms and definitions. Example: ;Foo:definition
- Foo
- definition
By using an anchor, a named link can be created. Example: ;Foo:definition {{anchor|foo1}}
- Foo
- definition
You can then link to this with [[pagename#foo1]] --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I tried this and I see "Template:Anchor" where I inserted the anchor in the definition, and I can't link to it. No doubt there is something stupid that I am overlooking.
jonb (talk) 20:04, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- What is the article and what are you doing? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
No article in particle. We're using wikimedia for an in house wiki, but such a feature would be good anywhere a definition is used by anyone.
jonb (talk) 20:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Then this is a MediaWiki software question, not a Wikipedia use question. You need to let us know that- WP has a lot of custom stuff that can make it very different from a vanilla MW install. You need to copy {{anchor}} to your wiki before you can use it. Just to make it more fun, anchor in turn uses other templates that you must also copy, and they might just use another template in turn. Another way you can encode the anchor is to use
<span id="{{anchorencode:foo" />
instead of {{anchor}}, where foo is the name of the anchor. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)- See WP:EIW#Naviga for several methods of making anchors. For example, in the Editor's index to Wikipeda itself, we use plain HTML
<span id="..."/>
tags to create the targets for shortcut links such as WP:EIW#Naviga. --Teratornis (talk) 22:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)- However, since you are editing on your own wiki, presumably you don't have to follow Wikipedia's Manual of style. That means you can use any page layout you like. Therefore, you could make an ordinary page with a list of definitions. Give each definition its own section, and then you can simply link words to their defining sections. You should not need any tricky methods to put invisible name anchors into text. --Teratornis (talk) 23:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- See WP:EIW#Naviga for several methods of making anchors. For example, in the Editor's index to Wikipeda itself, we use plain HTML
Search For User Contributions On A Specific Talk Page, Article Page, Category Page, Etc. Etc.
Is there any way to search for all the contributions by a the same contributor on a specific talk page, article page, category page, etc. etc.? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.164.166 (talk) 20:13, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Not really, however you can restrict the view of their contributions to a single namespace. For example, this shows all my recent contributions to articles only. Hersfold (t/a/c) 20:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- You can do this by the use of external tools such as WikiSense Contributors. Have a look at Wikipedia:Tools#Page histories for any others that you might find useful. haz (talk) 20:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
External Links for blogs
I understand that the External Links for Wikipedia are discouraging blogs from being posted--But I have looked on another Wikipedia artist page and it clearly shows a blog link for that celebrity. What I am trying to do is display a newly developed blog for Leisha Hailey on her page. What are the exceptions for displaying blogs on Wiki? Here is the link to her blog: leishahaileyfans.blogspot.com
Can anyone assist me with this issue?--Leisha12 (talk) 20:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)Leisha12
- Have a look at Wikipedia:External links (and in particular WP:ELNO) for the policy. I would advise against the linking of a blog site, especially if you have a close link with the site in question. haz (talk) 20:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
review new article
Hello,
I was recently advised to create an article at User:N9NE Group/sandbox and then come here to ask an editor to review. I would like to expand on this article, but for now would just like to know if I am on the right track. Thank you N9NE Group (talk) 21:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I have made changes to your sandbox, as requested. Feel free to review and comment on them. Here is probably a good place to make any comments, since your username has been blocked as a violation of username policy. haz (talk) 22:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, in my opinion, it looks good to me. I just suggest adding the topic's history. Some expansion would do to. The references look good but remember to use reliable sources. Regards, RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 00:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- The article is a good start but it has problems. Your first citation (vegas.com) is not a terrible source but it's not great either. It's a commercial site which promotes Vegas. While it is technically a "third party" source it's not wholly independent. I certainly don't think one would describe it as a reliable source with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. All other sources cited are better on the reliability and independence fronts, but all suffer from the same problem: the club is just mentioned peripherally in them as a place where this or that famous person appeared. The base of all notability guideline on Wikipedia is that a topic should only have an autonomous article if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. That would consist of reliable sources substantively discussing the club. This is not to say that those sources should be removed, not at all. But you are going to need sources that actually cover the club itself in order to write a tertiary source encyclopedia article on it. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Request for new entry?
Is there a place where I can request a new entry? I don't know much about the subject at hand, but would like more information about it from others. --70.167.58.6 (talk) 22:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- If you mean making a new page, see Wikipedia:Your first article. If you mean where you can request an article to be made, that's Wikipedia:Requested articles. Hope those pages help. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 22:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
- Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
- If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Paragon12321 (talk) 22:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- You also might wish to consider requesting an article at Wikipedia:Requested articles, although there is a bit of a backlog. (Sorry - I had missed Calvin 1998's post when I added this). - Bilby (talk) 22:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, I think that IPs are supposed to make requests at Articles for Creation, which I believe is backlog-free. Paragon12321 (talk) 03:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Articles for Creation is for ready-written articles where the user doesn't want to register so that they can put the article into article-space straight away themselves, and as such you'd need to have at least a paragraph of text, including an assertion of notability and at least one source. Requested articles, on the other hand, just needs an article title (but then you have to wait for someone who knows enough about the topic to go there, see that it's been requested, and write the article). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 03:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
help
Hello i need help on the steps i need to follow in order to remove a peacock term from an article.
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Alhaji (talk • contribs) 22:48, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Simply click on the "edit this page" tab at top of the article, locate the term you wish to remove in the body of the article (or in the lead) and delete it as you would any text. In the edit summary box provide a rationale as to why, in this case WP:PEACOCK. Then click save. Wisdom89 (T / C) 22:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- When you think all the peacock terms are removed, remove the peacock term template at the top/section of the article.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 00:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- If you tell us the article, and preferably link to it, then we can show you exactly how to remove the first few peacock terms, and you can learn from our diff to see how to remove more of them. --Teratornis (talk) 00:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- You can read WP:PEACOCK for more info. I suggest copy-editing those peacock articles.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 05:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- If you tell us the article, and preferably link to it, then we can show you exactly how to remove the first few peacock terms, and you can learn from our diff to see how to remove more of them. --Teratornis (talk) 00:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- When you think all the peacock terms are removed, remove the peacock term template at the top/section of the article.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 00:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
May 22
Status of a requested translation
How long does one normally have to wait to get a response to a translation request, in this case Wikipedia:Translation/Evidence ?
Or, did I not set the request up correctly ?
If there is no one to do it, should I just get the request speedy deleted ?
Peet Ern (talk) 03:28, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I made new pages for these people and they are now deleted. I checked the deletion log and cannot see why they were eliminated.Can someone please explain why?
Thanks for your help,
firstyearclay —Preceding unsigned comment added by Firstyearclay (talk • contribs) 04:15, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, their not deleted. They were just redirected to a different, appropriate article.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 04:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
IPs cannot create articles?
I was referred to come here about a article I'm trying to create, called GET US OUT! which is about a US organization that wants the US to get out of the UN because it alleges that the UN is corrupt, anti-American, worse, such as that it charges the UN as being part of the World Government, which is denounced AS being Satanic in the Christian religion. Source information is www.getusout.com. I even clicked on the "Start article...." link, only it says Unauthorized, thus that link no longer functions, if any links function at all, because I'm a IP. 65.163.115.254 (talk) 04:52, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- IPs cannot create articles unfortunately. But if you were to create an account, you can then create articles. Do you want to create an account? It's your choice. --RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 04:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- If you do make an account and plan to write an article, you'll want to read Wikipedia:Your first article thoroughly beforehand. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 04:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
E-mail as a Source
What's the rule on using e-mail as a source? I'm almost positive that its not acceptable, but an article I watch just had a fact added based on an e-mail correspondence with a company. Is this a specific Wiki page about using e-mail as a source (ex. a more specific page like WP:NOR)? -Zomic13 (talk) 04:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- To clarify, since I may not be entirely clear, I'm looking for a page that I can cite in an edit summary in regards to using e-mail as a source. -Zomic13 (talk) 05:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- WP:RS maybe? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think there is one. I'm not entirely sure though.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 05:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- WP:RS maybe? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'm fairly certain that in order for something to be reliable, it has to pass the test of solid and consistent fact checking - an email address certainly does not meet this requirement as it is difficult to check the veracity. Wisdom89 (T / C) 05:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- I looked at WP:EIW#Source, WP:RS, and WP:V, thinking that I saw something once upon a time about e-mail as a source. Nothing like that seems to be in there now, except for a footnote in WP:V#Notes and references:
- "Blogs" in this context refers to personal and group blogs. Some newspapers host interactive columns that they call blogs, and these may be acceptable as sources so long as the writers are professionals and the blog is subject to the newspaper's full editorial control. Where a news organization publishes the opinions of a professional but claims no responsibility for the opinions, the writer of the cited piece should be attributed (e.g., "Jane Smith has suggested ..."). Posts left by readers may never be used as sources.
- Notice the last sentence that I italicized. An e-mail message might be in the same class as ephemera, i.e. not a reliable source (certainly, it is not a published source, unless someone included it in a published work). I also checked WP:CITET, and it lists a {{cite mailing list}} template. By itself, that does not imply mailing lists are reliable sources. We can also try searching the Help desk for: e-mail as a source; that finds:
- --Teratornis (talk) 07:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- I looked at WP:EIW#Source, WP:RS, and WP:V, thinking that I saw something once upon a time about e-mail as a source. Nothing like that seems to be in there now, except for a footnote in WP:V#Notes and references:
- Unpublished emails are unacceptable as sources because they fail Wikipedia:Verifiability. A template was deleted for that reason at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 April 19#Template:Cite email, where somebody created {{cite mailing list}} instead for published emails which can be used in certain circumstances where the author and content is considered reliable enough for a given purpose. I wouldn't use it for anything remotely controversial. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
user name - fallrome
i upload a photo and did not provide a copyright. went to unpload a replacement with copyright provided and was blocked. new to wikipedia and didnt know how to do it. figured it out on the other photos. the photes are of my 1973 thunderbird in the article oabout the car. thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fallrome (talk • contribs) 06:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hi. Is the image you're talking about Image:73tbirdfront.jpg? It hasn't actually been deleted yet so you don't need to upload another copy. Just go to the image, click "edit this page", and replace the no license tag ({{di-no license|month=May|day=20|year=2008}}) with the appropriate tag from this list. Hope that helps!
- Oh, and it's helpful if you sign your posts on talk pages using four tildes, like this ~~~~, which produces your signature. Olaf Davis | Talk 10:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
ArticleHistory Template
Is it possible to change the {{ArticleHistory}} template to transclude the GAicon just like the {{GA}} template does?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- File an {{editprotected}} request on Template talk:ArticleHistory...... Dendodge .. TalkHelp 16:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- You would need consensus from the GA project first, or a larger consensu at the village pump. Woody (talk) 16:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Image
A request, can anyone please upload these two images from BBC [1], [2] for the article 2003 Algeria earthquake. I was advised some times, but still I am facing problems regarding image uploading. In this case a {{Non-free historic image}} tag would be appropriate, as it is a unique historic image, and the copyright for it is most likely held by the person who took the image or the agency employing the person. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 11:10, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- I think it is possible that a free alternative could be found so I don't think this image should be used. Anonymous101 (talk) 17:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- You can make your request easier for people to understand by linking to whatever you mean by "I was advised some times". On Wikipedia, everything we do is in writing, specifically so we can share everything we do with other volunteers. Before someone else could help, it would be prudent for them to read the same written record that you have read, up to now, about the problem. --Teratornis (talk) 17:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
KPI/SWITCH GEAR
please give me a brief description about KPI in the field of iso auditing please give me a brief description about switch gear —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhuvanesh2k8 (talk • contribs) 11:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- When you do ask again on the Reference desk, please try to pose your question well, so volunteers do not have to waste time trying to determine what you want. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia about almost everything; therefore, many common words can mean many different things here. Volunteers who answer questions are not mind-readers, so they cannot guess which particular meaning you intend when you use a word with multiple meanings. The phrase "KPI in the field of iso (sic) auditing" is ambiguous with respect to the KPI acronym (for example, "KPI" might mean Key performance indicators, or other things on the KPI disambiguation page), and "iso" looks like it might really be ISO, the International Standards Organization, rather than the chemical prefix relating to isomerism (letter case matters a lot on Wikipedia, so try not to be sloppy). You can also search Wikipedia for: ISO auditing and KPI. As far as switch gear, what type of switches do you mean? There are electrical switches, railroad switches, etc. See Switch (disambiguation) and pick one of the meanings of "switch" to clarify your question. --Teratornis (talk) 17:21, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Display most recent history entry on an article page
Is there a way to transclude the most recent entry from the history tab into an article and have it automatically update? E.g. If I were the most recent person to edit an article I would like to have 08:45, 22 May 2008 imandir (Talk | contribs) (2,343 bytes) (+comments)
display on the the article page. --IMandIR (talk) 12:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Help:Magic words#Page names and related info shows how to display some of this information:
{{REVISIONID}}
and other magic words below it. You might have to find, or write, a MediaWiki extension to display the rest of what you need, and if you are asking about how to display this information on a Wikipedia article, then there would be the bureaucratic/political challenges of getting the extension added to Wikipedia if it isn't already here. The Village pump (technical) might be a better place to ask this question. If you are asking about a wiki other than Wikipedia, try mw:Project:Support desk. You can also search the two wikis that contain technical information about MediaWiki: - If you need to do these kinds of searches routinely (many technically inclined users probably do), add the {{Help desk searches}} template to your user page where it will always be one click away when you have logged in to Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 17:36, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
IP
does wikipedia know your ip and how does it find out (if yes)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.91.181 (talk) 16:24, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- If you do not have an account, your IP is shown, as demonstrated by your signature. If you register for an account, your IP is only available to certain admins under certain circumstances: see WP:CHECK. See WP:REG for other benefits of an account. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 16:47, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Mike Zito
<text of article removed> 76.195.145.106 (talk) 17:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hello. I have removed the text of the article you posted here. This help desk is for asking questions about using Wikipedia. I see that the subject of the article does not currently have an article. The information posted below describes the process for creation.
- You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
- Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
- If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:10, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
86.46.7.34 (talk) 18:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Thierry Roussel
My boss, Mr. Thierry Roussel, feels that the article about him has errors and exaggerations and would like to set the record straight by submitting his cv to be added. I also have a signed scanned version if that would be preferable. I do not really understand how to go about doing this. Can you insert this article for me? Thanks, Glendap (talk) 18:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)glendap
<text of article removed>
- See policies on conflict of interest and autobiography on why this content cannot be added. What particular errors do you feel are present? haz (talk) 18:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- I fixed the references, added a reflist, added persondata template, added a couple of categories and removed some unencyclopedic content. – ukexpat (talk) 21:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Kannst mir die deine setzen aber als der
Es ist sehr stimmt oder grossen hast dir das geschenk oder kremi. Ist das einer grasse nimmen? 86.46.7.34 (talk) 18:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Please post your question at de:Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia. haz (talk) 18:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Es die ersten dritten stock bis zu kremi. Ist das richtig?...86.46.7.34 (talk) 18:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Dies ist die englische Wikipedia. Sie sollten ihn fragen an der deutschen Sprache in Wikipedia de:Hauptseite. Sorry, die Übersetzung erfolgte durch Google. Hersfold (t/a/c) 19:10, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Ancient Egypt
Why can't I find information specifically about one of the Egyptian Kings Amenhemet III on this site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.84.214 (talk) 18:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Either due to a misspelling, or that noone's got round to creating the page yet. If you are certain the spelling is correct:
- Please see Your first article.
- Create an account
- Make sure the subject is notable enough to have their own article.
- Find references
- Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box to the left (←) and clicking 'Search'
- Type the page name in the search box to the left (←) and click 'Go'
- Click 'Create this page'
- Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines
- Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are at extra risk of deletion, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones....... Dendodge .. TalkHelp 18:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Names can often be translated to English in different ways. Try Amenemhat III. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:07, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Super/subscripts in verbatim text
In the TUTOR (programming language) wiki page, as in most other programming language web pages <pre> blocks are used to set off source code examples. This works just fine, except in one section of the page, TUTOR (programming language)#Expression Syntax. In that section, superscripts and subscripts are used, because TUTOR (not being confined by the constraints of ASCII) happened to permit super and subscripting in expressions. As a result, it seems impossible to get correct rendering of the subscripting in that example in that section. The content of the cited section contains an in-line gripe showing the problem and inviting a fix.
Someone who understands the strange and wonderful world of HTML style may be required to resolve this. The best possible solution would appear to be a special TUTOR example style that put the grey box and dashed outline used by <pre> in place, but also renders super and subscripts correctly -- which, in this case, should include overriding the font-size change for super and subscripts, since the PLATO System's support for super and subscript didn't do this. If the cost of this includes requiring the user to type explicit <br> line breaks in the examples, that's not a problem. Any help would be appreciated. 128.255.45.57 (talk) 19:10, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- It would appear that you are not the first to come across this because we have {{pre}} to resolve the issue:
ABC123
- Thanks! (I speculate the "gripping hand" position too.) Except for the little "pre" hanging out there in the corner, a very minor wart, this is just fine. 128.255.45.57 (talk) 19:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- I removed that comment as I thought it might be confusing, but it should not be suprising that we have an article on the gripping hand. The little "pre" tag is a backlink to the template. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! (I speculate the "gripping hand" position too.) Except for the little "pre" hanging out there in the corner, a very minor wart, this is just fine. 128.255.45.57 (talk) 19:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Now, I'm confused again -- the wonderful thing Wikiland is that it's all very public. Right after I fixed it, following the above suggestion, Ghettoblaster fixed my fix so the little "pre" went away. His trick was a single leading space on the line. This is discouraged in Wikipedia:How to edit a page by the note that leading spaces wreck the rendering of the entire page in browsers such as IE7, so I'm reverting it.128.255.45.57 (talk) 22:17, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
how safe is floresent twist light bulbs
we bought the twisted light bulbs to save on energy. the other day my husband was at the table when he noticed a burnt smell. he went through the house searching for the corporate. he could not find out where the smell was comming from. the next day he was changing a bulb that had went out when he noticed the bulb had a hole in the base of it about the size of a pencle. the smell was still overwelming. thats where the smell was comming from. the sench made him week and dizzy. he went to the doctor and was found to be ok. but my question is how often have you had bulbs do this before. and is there any longterm effects. if you want pictures of the bulb, i will be glad to send it to you. sam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.20.88.22 (talk) 19:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your question however this help desk is for help using Wikipedia. Please see the reference desk where you may ask your question someone will find the answer for you. Cheers GtstrickyTalk or C 19:38, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Even at the Reference Desk, we cannot offer medical advice per our medical disclaimer. We can only offer general information on compact fluorescent lamps. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds like a defect in the bulb but, yes, you'd probably get better information on the reference desk. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 20:17, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
LOGO
Can I use WikiMedia logos in the user namespace? —Preceding unsigned comment added by CyberThing (talk • contribs) 19:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes...... Dendodge .. TalkHelp 20:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Technically not, because they aren't free, but everyone does it anyhow... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 22:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Reminds me of a Simpsons comic: "Chief Wiggum also tells me to remind you that lynching is technically illegal, but so is cheating on your taxes, and everyone does that anyway." bibliomaniac15 01:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- Technically not, because they aren't free, but everyone does it anyhow... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 22:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
new user needs help, i am a little confused
I added a relevent "related companies" to an article and when i clicked on it i wrote a stub article describing the company i have read about in two outside sources. the item was deleted before i can figure out what happend. something about spam? I am not a spammer and i wished to add relevent information. I attempted to rewrite the article with less words and to the point, but it will not let me. i appreciate the help on this matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gunsource1 (talk • contribs) 20:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Please provide the exact article name. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- That'd be Gunvendor.com. That page has been protected against re-creation by the deleting admin, Bearian. I suggest you write a version in your userspace at e.g. User:Gunsource1/Gunvendor.com showing exactly why this company is notable. Pay particular regard to Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), Wikipedia:Spam, and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. If you have any connection with the website, then you probably ought not to be writing the article anyway - see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Once you've got a version you're happy with, ask Bearian to take another look. If Bearian disagrees and thinks that the article is still not fit for Wikipedia, then have another think about whether the article is good enough before you ask for the page to be unprotected at WP:RFPP. Good luck! BencherliteTalk 20:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
How do I make...
how do I make meters that tell me how angry I am? I tried [[Image:Wikistress3D <<A"1">> v3.jpg|right|thumbnail|]] but that didn't work!--Spittlespat (talk) 22:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
{{wstress3d|1}}
returns the thing on the right. You've got to replace the <<A>> with a number. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 22:35, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Inappropriate? Usernames
I came across a user (was an editor for one or two days a week ago;vandalism), who had "sockpuppet" in their username and whose userpage had "I am a sockpuppet" as it's content (without assertation of legitimate sock use). Is the user a candidate for Inappropriate Username, or is the fact that they havent edited since reason to just ignore? Fribbler (talk) 22:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- It's not a candidate for inappropriate username, I don't think. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 23:04, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thats grand so! Thanks. Fribbler (talk) 23:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Of course, if this user starts acting sockpuppet-y, might want to request a checkuser. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thats grand so! Thanks. Fribbler (talk) 23:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
May 23
Vandalism
Why is it that some vandals get away with the vandalism they start, like the false birthday I found on Lee Eun-ju before I fixed it? This wiki needs something that will automatically detect vandalism, so the vandals are not warned so late, like they are nowadays.Kitty53 (talk) 00:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, it's not like we can catch every vandal. We try our best to revert all vandalism. Even when one is found late, it would be reverted/removed. Also, it could be that a user adds vandalism one edit at a time, one inappropriate word, hidden vandalism, sneaky vandalism, etc. and it's hard to keep up with. But we do try our best. Also, there are many tools like TWINKLE that helps but no tool can find all vandals. Not even our vandal fighting bots can get all of them. Hope this helps. --RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 00:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- There are a lot of bots that do this (like User:Cluebot) but unlike humans, they are not 100% effective.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 00:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- There's really no way a bot can figure out that changing a birthday is vandalism. There are times where an incorrect birthdate is listed for person, and a correct one is added. So it's not as simple as reverting every change of a birthday. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 01:12, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- By the way, bot's are not perfect. Our vandal fighting bots have actually made mistakes. --RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 01:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)