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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Sephiroth BCR (talk | contribs) at 09:14, 2 June 2008 (→Your edits: comment). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

I prefer to reply to comments on the page they were left, so if I left a comment on your page, reply there it is on my watch list. If you leave a comment here, watch this page until the discussion is done as I will only leave replies here. Comments which I find to be uncivil, full of vulgarities, an attempt flame baiting, or that are are excessively rude may be deleted without response. If I choose not to answer, that's my right, don't keep putting it back. I'll just delete and get annoyed at you.

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Could you help with Greek (TV show)?

An editor Thelegendofvix keeps adding a "Name of show" section in, though many editors, myself included, belive it is unnecesary. Since there are (not that I can tell, anyways) coordinators for Wikiproject TV, and though you are a Wikiproject film editor, could you help in determining weather or not it is due weight? I'm going to ask other editors to. Yojimbo501 (talk) 23:55, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed, along with some other. Not even going to ask why an article that is really just a stub has a standalone character list. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 00:16, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. I admire the speed in your response and edits, something I probably wont be able to do. Do you think the issue is over? No offense, but basically we are all just restating the same reasons why it should be taken out. Thelegondofvix will probably try to find some way to worm it back in. Yojimbo501 (talk) 21:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Should be. I filed an AN/I against him, and if he continues, he'll just get himself blocked. I'm keeping the pages on my watchlist just in case he tries anything. Good luck expanding it out, hopefully at a better base start :) -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 22:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I've had to put up with some very unreasonable editors in the past and decided I wasn't going to put up with another, or let others be offended by rude editors. I saw your response to the guys talk page, and, while I had the smallest suspicion that he was, indeed, a sockpuppeteer, where did you get evidence that he/she was a suspect? Oh, and another editor suggested that we just have a link to a website stating that the whole "Greek" thing was a joke, and explains that they didn't use the correct letter. I have no real intention of editing the article much more, lest a sockpuppet comes up. I am to concerned with current Japanese cinema articles to do that. I also wish to find mor information for the articles Osamu Takizawa and Mickey Curtis, which I started (though, unlike Thelegendofvix, am keenly aware that they are wikipedia's and not mine, though I still post on my userpage that I created them, a fact I am actually rather proud of ;)). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yojimbo501 (talk • contribs) 18:02, May 29, 2008 (UTC)

No prob. He's still ranting away over at ANI. I don't know if he is a sockpuppeteer or not, but having a non-editing account wake up after over a year to put back his edits after he got a 3RR warning was suspicious enough to warrant a report. The admins haven't closed the case one way or another yet. Nothing wrong with being proud of our creations or our work, so long as we don't get like him (who, of course, decides to bash me and my pride and joy, Meerkat Manor, because I *gasp* won't let unsourced crap go into a featured article! Gee...wonder why I should want the article to maintain its featured status? :P -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 05:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I hope this will end soon. I saw he tried to make a sockpuppeting case against you. That was unnecesary, and if you ask me, he is unconstructive enough to be banned. Thelegendofvix has really pushed the limits. Do you think the people who said that they thought the name of show section was usefull were his sockpuppets?

I let others the articles I created, besides, if anyone could find info for those articles, I'd be greatfull. I think the main reason with trivia sections being a problem is that they are often unnsourced. Yojimbo501 (talk) 21:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No idea. If he keeps it up with the false sockpuppet case, he will likely be blocked because he pretty much admits he is only filing it because I filed one against him. Its pointy and disruptive. Combined with his slow edit war over the name (seems like its really been going on for months), he doesn't seem likely to stay an active editor much longer. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 21:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I think it goes back to April 2007, making the conflict a year and 1 month long... That is a pretty long time. It seems that this editor is very repetitive. can we view this editors contribs to see if they are good faith or constructive? Yojimbo501 (talk) 21:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I already checked them. Pretty much the only editing he's every done, beyond he current ranting and false sockpuppet cases, has been to Greek TV and its talk page, with 2 posts each on two other talk pages[1]. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 22:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Just checked that to. I've put in some comments for the ANI case, and the sockpuppet case. I'd like to suggest that Preshuzz is not a sock, as only one edit suggests a connection. Yojimbo501 (talk) 22:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
He may not be, but it was suspicious enough to warrant a report and investigation. If its shown its not, then the case will be closed. Not a big deal. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 22:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Gatchaman

Delete the One piece anime article if you wish since Democracy has spoken but surely you must see sense in this. I have made some addition Gatchaman pages to distinguish them from one one another I feel a template needs to be made also.

Plus I feel Eagle Riders and Gatchaman II should be redirected to their respective pages rather than Science Ninja Team Gatchaman.


I feel the articles Gatchaman II (TV Series) should be renamed Gatchaman II and Eagle Riders (1996 TV series) renamed Eagle Riders. Dwanyewest (talk) 13:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, both of those need to be put back into the main Gatchaman article. It is not appropriate to go ahead and split them out after making a split proposal without allowing discussion. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 14:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Full Moon o Sagashite

I see that you undid my edits to the Full Moon o Sagashite page. I understand why you did. The reason why I had added that sometimes it is mistranslated as Full Moon wo Sagashite instead of Full Moon o Sagashite is because when you look it up on YouTube, most everyone has it as "Full Moon wo Sagashite." I was confused and looked it up on another website and saw that it is often called "Full Moon wo Sagashite" by mistake. That's why I added it to that page, I was only trying to help, not trying to mess it up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chibi-anime-Girl (talk • contribs) 12:22, May 30, 2008 (UTC)

Fansub transliterations (which is what that is, BTW, not a translation :) ) are not anything we generally bother to note. We would only note something like that if it is covered in third-party reliable sources as being relevant. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 17:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

May 2008

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Cats & Dogs. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 17:33, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

One Piece

Hello. Regarding One Piece, I personally feel I did nothing wrong unless you're talking about the Monkey D. Luffy and Roronoa Zoro article in that case, I must removed some guy's supposed link to the "Eleven Supernovas" article on the account it never existed. I merely bold-sized them. That's all. If anything I should have erased it. Please reply Uglyguy2006 (talk) 19:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, you also added in a "prologue" which doesn't belong and is copyvio (though unless you were the IP not logged in, I think you were mostly restoring the one the IP added). Mostly you kept undoing it after I cleaned it out. Maybe it was by accident, but that sort of thing didn't belong. The plot should be a summary of the manga, not a repeat of the prologue or a teaser. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 21:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Anyways, whatever it was, sorry about that. It was an accident. I just wrote the word "Prologue" to the edit of the plot, as well as the actual plot. My mistake. Uglyguy2006 (talk) 09:15, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No prob :) -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 16:23, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Exorcist

The excorcist (film) seems to be in disscusion on weather or not the imagery is subliminal or not. I think in the talk page where an editor first posted the issue, we can clearly see he/she is ignoring wikipolicy's. I am still don't think the section should be taken out, but I think it needs a look from other editors. Yojimbo501 (talk) 15:53, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Himura Kenshin and other stuff

I added to the main Rurouni Kenshin article videogames and soundtracks info, so I guess some merges could be done. Also, did something happened with the copyeditor that was supposed to help in Himura Kenshin? I remembered he copyedited conception and lead. Well, regards.Tintor2 (talk) 20:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Been wondering that myself. She never finished copyediting Wolf's Rain either, and I finally just dropped its GA nom (the person who put it on hold for GA review also disappeared). -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 20:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
But are you going to nominate it again? And what about the merge of the soundtracks and the videogames?--Tintor2 (talk) 20:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm finishing up the merges now. Probably not on Wolf's Rain, at least not anytime soon. I'm going to wait until I've been able to clean up the character and episode lists, and can fix up the character section more, before trying again. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 20:31, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Do you think somebody may give a little copy edit hand to the Sagara Sanosuke, if I ask that in the Wiki project?Tintor2 (talk) 23:54, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe. Someone somewhere mentioned a new resource for finding copyeditors...let me see if I can find it. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 01:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
So?Tintor2 (talk) 13:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think Fullmetal Alchemist is ready for a peer review? If so, could you create it?Tintor2 (talk) 15:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Should be, but what goal should I note? GA or straight to FA? -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 16:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I cant deal to make a FA due to my English, GA would be easier.--Tintor2 (talk) 18:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, to go for GA or FA, it would need a copy edit. I'll post the peer review. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 18:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Redirects

Just noting that it might be a bit faster if you just tagged unnecessary redirects with CSD R3 and left to administrator, or just give me a list of redirects and I would run through them and delete the unnecessary ones. It's quicker and avoids the clutter at WP:RFD. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 19:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I had CSD tagged tem, but another admin declined them all. Said they weren't new and they were all plausible. :( -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 23:08, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:ANI

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Black Kite 00:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC) (Note:link is here).[reply]

Your Recent Edits

Collectonian, I just wanted to drop you a friendly reminder to remember the 3 Revert Rule. It seems that you and another editor are in violation of this rule. If you would like to have a specific edit made, please take it to 3rd Opinion or try contacting another editor or Admin to voice his/her opinion. Failure to follow the 3RR could get you blocked. If you have any questions, please drop me a message. Thanks and Happy Editing! Dusticomplain/compliment 01:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I know, however in this case I feel it is extremely important to note the history here. Abtract has already been blocked once for his continuing harassement and wikistalking of myself and another editor. His "edits" to Meerkat Manor were just another part of that campaign and, as such, nothing more than vandalism. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 01:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I understand your point of view, but if you disagree with someones edits and violate 3RR in trying to keep the article in the way you want it, your just as guilty. Its better to allow the other user to put it in his/her way and contact another editor or Admin for their point of view on the situation, rather then trying to handle it yourself and get yourself blocked in the process. Remember this, as its not an huge deal if something goes wrong- it took myself to learn that. Dusticomplain/compliment 01:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't a matter of "putting it the way I want it," it is removing false tags. Everything he tagged with {{fact}} is properly sourced within the article text. References should rarely be in the lead, as the lead is intended to summarize the article, not provide new information. He isn't doing anything to aid in the article, only trying to annoy me. Also, please note that the 3RR he filed was done after an AN/I was filed against him due to these very edits. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 01:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
And did you point this out to him? Civily? What was his response? (sorry, too lazy to look myself lol :D) Dusticomplain/compliment 01:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In detail, no, because he doesn't care. He only tagged to tag. In one of the reverts, I noted the article was sourced, he claimed it wasn't because he didn't bother to check (or just wanted to get me to violate 3RR). He continues to harass me for no other purpose than to do so, and to prod me into 3RR violations so he can justify his own harassment and ludicrous proclamations that he is somehow a victim. He admitted as much (as can be seen in the RfC/U), and this is a long term, broader issue (as can be seen on his talk page. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 01:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Let's wait and see if he does anything else here, and if so, I'll support a block on his part. Good for now? Dusticomplain/compliment 01:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's fine. Hopefully he will stop for awhile, though I'll admit, I'm not going to hold out a lot of hope after the extended history and his previous false promises to stop. It would also be appreciated if Abtract would stop throwing around "wikibonk" like its some kind of disorder or disease or intended insult, particularly when he's only throwing it around now when I've removed that from my user page. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 01:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the Meerkat Manor dispute

I read more into it, so, I think the whole Meerkat Manor dispute should be referenced here, don't you agree? Might help our case more. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 02:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I debated expanding again, but the RfC is not getting much attention. I can see now why there was a move to ax RfC/U and just let cases go straight to AN/I or Arb Com: lack of active participation. Still, I'll add an update shortly, after seeing what the AN/I result is and if he is reblocked. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 03:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Your edits

I suggest you change your password, log out and log in again. Black Kite 08:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 08:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
And done. Is there any kind of log showing log ins that can check to see what happened? That was beyond weird, and more than a little disconcerting as I have an insanely secure computer system and am ridiculously careful about where I go online, so I'd hate to think it was hacked. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 08:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I noticed this on my watchlist and indef blocked you to prevent the person that compromised your account from continuing. If you think you're fine, then post a message here and I'll unblock you. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 08:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Much as I hate the idea of being blocked, I'd like to try to find out what happened first before being unblocked. Would a check user show if the edits were done by a different IP? -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 08:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I think it could, but I'm not that familiar with the technical details, and I've never seen a checkuser request being used in this regard. If you want, I can unblock you and you can make the request, or do you want me to file a request for you (I think any request I would file would be substantially more difficult for a checkuser to deal with, as you're probably more familiar with the technical stuff on your computer)? It's up to you, but feel free to send a message to me or any other administrator if I unblock you and your account is compromised again to be blocked once more. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 08:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I changed my password and logged out/in. Hopefully that is enough. Please go ahead and unblock me. I think I will file a checkuser though, to see what happened. I'll also keep an eye out on my contribs for awhile in addition to my watchlist. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 08:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Done. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 09:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks :) -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 09:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Woops...my IP is still autoblocked, so I still can't edit. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 09:04, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Fixed. You should be able to edit now. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 09:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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