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May 29

Computers

(moved to Computing reference desk) — QuantumEleven 08:31, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How to start a blog

How do you start a blog of your own?? Without having your own domain, and no cash to spend at all?? Aanusha Ghosh (talk) 08:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Use a free blog hosting service like Wordpress or Blogger. I prefer Wordpress. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 08:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Movie release dates

These days it seems that movies are released at pretty the same time worldwide, and I think this is forced by the increased risk of piracy if the movie is available in one national market but not in another, with the risk being far higher now due to internet distribution. However, in the past, it was very common for movies to be released in one national market (usually the US) quite a while before other markets.

My question is, why did there used to be this gap in release dates? I can't see any direct sales benefit in segmenting the market in this way, because it is already naturally segmented (few people would fly from the UK to the US to see a movie). I wonder if it was simply a prestige issue with an expectation that if the movie was made in the US, that it should be shown there first, whether there was a logistical issue with a delay in shipping the released reels to other countries, or whether there was some other reason. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Scorpion Question Man (talk) 22:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Basically in a lot of cases it was because the cost of making copies of the movie was fairly expensive so they didn't want to make more copies of a movie than was absolutely necessary .So they would make for example 100O copies of the movie ,let it play out in the US for whatever time they wanted and then ship most of those prints of the movie over to Europe etc .

The prestige issue for the most part still occurs but sometimes distributors in Europe will show it first when there is a problem with distrubtion in the US .A recent example of that is All the Boys love Mandy Lane .Garda40 (talk) 23:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's also the added issue of translation for markets which have a different language than the one in which a film is originally released. Translation takes time, especially if you want a good translation, so this can add lead time onto when a film can be shown outside its original market. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 02:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Along with translation is editing. It is common for movies to be edited differently for different audiences. For example, a 3-hour movie in China normal. In the U.S., it is ridiculously long. Also, content may be edited. As much violence as possible is packed into movies for U.S. audiences, but many other countries have limits on the amount of the violence that may be shown. So, the crashing, explosions, gunfights, and whatnot are edited down. -- kainaw ™ 13:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And along with translation and editing is distribution rights (which I think is far more influential for release date delays than the former two). Each country has their own movie licensing companies or branches that need to achieve the rights to distribute and exhibit the movies. Even when a film company has an official branch in a certain country, it takes time for that branch to acquire the rights to exhibit the movie regionally due to local laws and company paperwork. Plus the local companies need to do the local logistics (advertising, shipping etc.) themselves before theaters get the chance to show a film. I guess the Internet age has made this process faster and less cumbersome to a certain extent (but down here in South America, for example, we still have to wait several months before being able to see a movie already in theaters in the US and elsewhere). Kreachure (talk) 15:32, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another issue is that the first run is a test to see if wider distribution is warranted. If the movie tanks in the first market, they may not try to distribute it elsewhere. StuRat (talk) 13:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requests

A, is there a section for requests? ie, I'd like a page for Ronald Jenkees. If there's not a section for requests, I request that there be one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.243.70 (talk) 22:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is, it's at Wikipedia:Requested articles. Dismas|^(talk) 01:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WEIGHT LIFTING

Could someone tell me why three (3) Judges are used in weight lifting ? Also The winner of the heaviest weight category is considered by many to be the strongest person in the competition because he/she has lifted the heaviest weight, but others disagree. Why do you think they have this opinion ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiddyanpykey (talk • contribs) 22:53, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They have that opinion because that person is the strongest. They have lifted the heaviest weight. If it were a ratio based on body weight vs weight lifted then you would have your way. Dismas|^(talk) 01:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are lots of ways to measure strength, just as there are many ways to measure anything else. Is the guys who finishes first in the 100m the fastest person or the guy who finishes first in the 200m? It's not talked about much outside of track circles, but the champion 200m guy actually runs at a faster rate. For strength, there are really two contenders: the dead lift and the clean and jerk (but see also The Snatch. The dead lift is simply lifting something off the surface; in World's Strongest Man competitions, they like using bins of coins. The winners of that event are usually billed as having "lifted the most mass from the face of the earth", but not many people really think of them as being the strongest person because a dead lift of four inches just doesn't have the same visual appeal as a guy hoisting something over his head, as in a C&J. Matt Deres (talk) 20:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

May 30

Charles Whitman/Texas Clock Tower Massacre

I have researched your entry on Charles Whitman and the Texas Clock Tower massacre. In your References to Popular Culture section, you have no reference to a book that was written prior to the massacre by Ford Clark. The book, (I don't remember the name) detailed a similar fictional attack and Whitman (as I recall) mentioned this in his interrogation. I would appreciate your assistance in finding the correct reference and in correcting this and other links (e.g. Ottumwa High School Celebrities) as appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki1211 (talk • contribs) 00:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would assume it's not in the popular culture section because, as you said, it was written before the event, and not about the event. I don't know what you mean by "Ottumwa High School Celebrities". Somno (talk) 03:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is true that it happened before the event, but it was aledged that it was instrumental in his actions. As for the celebrities section, I believe Ford Clark was a high school graduate there and therefore, as an author, regardless of the Charles Whitman connection, he should be noted. Wiki1211 (talk) 14:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

chisel

how do you get a rock chisel in the sims 2 castaway? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.95.128.206 (talk) 05:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Craft it on a crafting bench, if you have a rock in your inventory. Somno (talk) 11:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Music Software Titles And Music Making Software

Does anyone know anywhere you can get music software titles or music making softare except these places?

I'm not sure if this is the best place to post this, so I'll post it at Computing as well. Thanks.68.148.164.166 (talk) 07:50, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

you may find Category:Free audio editors interesting. Audacity is a popular freeware music editing program. If you don't want to download any software, the Beaterator is an award winning music maker that works in-browser. --Shaggorama (talk) 07:07, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What All Is On Jim Brown's Criminal Record

I know Jim Brown has been arrested a few times but what were they about? 71.231.121.77 (talk) 12:46, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Does this page help?--droptone (talk) 19:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nathan Fillion

Does wikipedia have a list of all the tv shows and films Nathan Fillion has been in. Thanx! N Fillion's biggest fan (talk) 14:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dunno if it's really ALL of them, but Nathan Fillion certainly has a list. Friday (talk) 14:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

imdb is the preferred reference for this sort of thing. — Lomn 15:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

hollywood drug world whistle blowers

I was watching True Romance (my favourite film ever btw) and it got to the bit where they talk about how actors do drugs, especially coke, on the set and so forth, and it got me thinking. We're supposed to believe in all these movies that the drug pushers are the bad guys, and deserve what they get in the end, yet the actors themselves were quite possibly high on their stuff when shooting. Have any actors actually had a wakeup call and turned whistleblower, and given the identities of the actual people they get their drugs from? Have very many actors done time themselves for drug use (I know quite a few must have, but I'd be curious if anyone can point to a list)? Regards, 203.221.127.63 (talk) 21:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Carroll O'Connor turned whistle-blower against his son's dealer. -- kainaw ™ 15:40, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Kainaw. Remarkably short answer though, for wikipedia. Does this mean there simply aren't any others? I surely hope not. 203.221.126.29 (talk) 14:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Betraying your friends and associates doesn't do wonders for your reputation, so I conjecture not many people do this, unless they are trying to deflect prosecution away from themselves. I'm sure many actors have done time themselves, but I don't know of any list, or what the purpose of such a list would be, other than to serve as some kind of drug war propaganda. As Wikipedia is not a propaganda outlet, it's likely not here. --Fletcher (talk) 00:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

May 31

Identify a documentary series about plants

Hello, around 1985-1992 (when I was a child) there was a documentary series on television about plants (about 12 parts I think). The distinctive feature, why I remember it, was its animated introduction, where a bulldozer driver is looking at the seed growing into a tree. I really liked the introduction, so I wonder, does anyone knows the name of these series? Thank you. Samohyl Jan (talk) 05:25, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What country? --76.111.32.200 (talk) 06:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My country is Czech Republic, but the series was foreign. My colleague also remembers it, and thinks it was French series, but I am not sure. It may as well be English or American. I think it was called something like "Life of Plants", but it isn't the BBC documentary of the same name. Oh, and I was looking for it on Wikipedia and IMDB some time ago, so I think it's not described there (but it's kinda difficult to search for something by animated introduction, you know). Samohyl Jan (talk) 06:27, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Got Lost In One Of The Questions (I'll Post This On Science, As I'm Not Sure Which Desk Is Most Appropriate)

3 media of amplitude can be expressed in keyboards, per Keyboard_expression. I am assuming different instruments, such as Brass instruments, or instruments that use water, have different ways of changing dynamics, or the amplitude of the sound that can be normally produced by them, or not, say banging a saxphone against a wall. Are there any others, and if so, could you list them all? Also, please list all theoretical, possible and/or probable ways of changing dynamics (or, in other words, the amplitude of a sound).

So what I'm saying is that for different Keyboard instruments, as per the article Keyboard_expression, there are 3 ways to express dynamics.68.148.164.166 (talk) 07:31, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Take me on a trip, I'd like to go some day

In American Gods, who is the guy with the wine Shadow meets on the tree? Is it Jesus? Vitriol (talk) 14:23, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find any such guy. Can you give more details of when he appears? Algebraist 09:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have the book to hand, but it's near the end, in the last couple of chapters, and I always assumed it was Jesus. Neıl 龱 10:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've searched an illegal online version for the word 'wine', and I've still got nothing. Can you give me page number in that pdf? Algebraist 13:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pic Or Name?

Does anyone have the name or a pic of the guy who asked "Why did you kiss me?" and I believe in response, the bachelorette said "I felt it!" on The Bachelorette Season 1. It's on Cosmo all the time (I think that's a canadian channel).68.148.164.166 (talk) 21:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

June 1

Porn industry gross?

How much does a typical good-quality pornographic film gross?--Sonjaaa (talk) 03:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Depends on the actors involved. Most only gain a minimal 50-100k u.s. dollars, but, like I said, it depends on the actors. (Jenna Jameson, for example, would gross a lot more). Undeath (talk) 03:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would the gross be considered gross sales, gross revenue, gross profit or gross income for the film? --Sonjaaa (talk) 03:36, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gross profit. Gross sales is from selling items.(i.e. walmart has gross sales) Undeath (talk) 06:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Going slightly off track, I think that gross sales/revenue/profit and income are all the same. They are how much money you take before you deduct any costs. Is that right? Scorpion Question Man (talk) 06:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gross is all income, and profit (revenue) is what's left after costs are deducted. Julia Rossi (talk) 08:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that is quite right. The pre-fix Gross basically means without any deductions and Net means something has been deducated (e.g. "Net of tax", means after tax has been deducted). This is why I think that Gross Profit, Gross Revenue, Gross Income and Gross Sales are all the same. So if you sell $10 worth of goods/services but they cost you $2, then your Gross Profit is $10 but your Net Profit is $8. Is there something wrong in this understanding? Scorpion Question Man (talk) 08:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Gross profit, Net income, Gross income (not very well explained) and Revenue. Gross profit is Revenue (turnover/sales/gross revenue) less Cost of goods sold. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 10:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Person who trains the actors?

What do you call the person who coordinates training for the actors, in a film production? Is there a title like training director or training coordinator or something? I'm wondering about the porn industry, but it could be any film, really. --Sonjaaa (talk) 03:38, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Training for what? I would doubt that there's much professional training in porn as the story takes a back seat to the porn in the film. Do you mean like stunt training when the actors do their own stunts? That could be done by the stunt coordinator. Or did you mean training for something else like handling weapons or trying to accurately portray a policeman, soldier, sniper, or something like that? In that case, the film company sometimes hires an (ex-)policeman or soldier to show the actor how to move, how to hold the weapon, etc. I remember watching the bonus features of the movie Shooter with Mark Wahlberg and in them they filmed the trainer that M.W. had for the shooting of that film. As I recall, he was a Marine sniper. Dismas|^(talk) 03:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I imagine that at least some porn movies involve special techniques, which the cast would need to learn ... —Tamfang (talk) 23:14, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, we have an article for stunt coordinator... okay... Anyway, I just skimmed through the credits for Shooter and it seems there were a few advisors and such. They had titles like "technical advisor: military" and "key military advisor". And the drivers, besides just being called stunt men, are also referred to as "precision driver". Hope this helps... Dismas|^(talk) 04:08, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would there be a person in charge of coordinating and hiring the accent coach, the stunt trainers, weapon trainors, etc.? Some sort of training manager? --Sonjaaa (talk) 04:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If I'm not mistaken, that would fall onto the shoulders of one of the producers who would likely assign it to one of their "production assistants" or "production coordinators". Dismas|^(talk) 04:09, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

coordinates the rehearsals?

Thanks, guys!! Yet another question.

Who coordinates the rehearsals? I know it's stage manager in drama. What about in film? Or are they not called "rehearsals" in film?

Maybe assistant director?

--Sonjaaa (talk) 04:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The director normally does. Afterall, it's the director who knows who he wants in the film. Undeath (talk) 06:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In big productions a "script" (Used to be "script girl" :-) may set up a "reading" or a "trial take". Those are not that common, though. More so for scenes where timing is of the essence for e.g. for effects. (You don't want to have to blow up the building twice.) Usually they just get everyone together and roll. That's why some scenes then require 50 takes. --Lisa4edit (talk) 11:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Our article Take surveys multiple takes way over that number. Julia Rossi (talk) 09:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How to set up Sonar 6 (music production software)

Hi, I bought the Sonar 6 music program a little while ago, and kind of gave up on it after hours of trying to figure out how to work the program. I have my roland synthesizer connected to it, with speakers connected to it. I installed the preamp and set up the midi-cables like it says in the instructions, but I can't get the program to play from the PC (thought it plays through speakers connected to my synthesizer) and can't even get vocals to get recorded into it at all! There is nothing wrong with the mic or the cables...was wondering if there was anything else I can check. The people at customer support weren't very supportive, so I have turned here for some advice. Can anyone help?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.22.57.231 (talk) 07:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I answered on the Computer Desk, where you double posted this question. StuRat (talk) 13:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pal Games -vs- NTSC games : release dates.

Why are games released much later in PAL regions than in NTSC regions? Interactive Fiction Expert/Talk to me 10:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First, look at these sales numbers : VGChartz North America is the largest market for video games by a wide margin.
Second, consider that many games are created or published by USA based companies.
Third, consider that if you're releasing an NTSC game you can get away with English-only. (Though Spanish and French are occasionally included.) PAL releases need to be internationalized to work with a whole bunch of languages.

Basically, if you're trying to get your game to market, and get the money you desperately need to keep your studio alive, then you rush to get it out as soon as possible. That means targeting a single market and worrying about the others later. North America is the biggest market and requires only one language. If that's also the language that you developed the game in, then the choice is a no-brainer.

Staggering the release dates for titles that are less than a sure-hit may also give them a chance to cut their losses and give up. (ie: If it doesn't sell in USA, don't bother going through the rather significant work it takes to sell to the rest of the world.) APL (talk) 16:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which one

Out of Super Mario 64 and The Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time, which one is more popular? Interactive Fiction Expert/Talk to me 10:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to this, Super Mario 64 is the 7th best selling video game in the United States, while Zelda didn't make the list. Think outside the box 16:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See List of best-selling video games#Nintendo 64.

Also, if you're going to ask a zillion questions, please try to give them descriptive subject names. "Which one" is worthless as a heading APL (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 16:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While we're at it, this question could have been answered if you'd simply read the article that you linked to. From the Mario 64 article : "Super Mario 64 has been commercially successful; it was the best-selling Nintendo 64 game."

Please try to put a little effort into finding answers for yourself before asking the reference desk. It's really supposed to be more of a 'last resort' for difficult to find information. APL (talk) 17:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cedric Diggory

In HPPOA, Cedric does appear. He is in a quidditch match against Gryffindor. But on his page, it says that he first appears in Goblet of Fire. There is a hidden comment that says not to put POA as his 1st appearance. Should I do it anyway?

---Nick4404 yada yada yada What have I done? 16:24, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems someone has already changed that. Dismas|^(talk) 19:02, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

---Already? Since this morning?? Gosh, Wikipedia changes quickly. Nick4404 yada yada yada What have I done? 19:24, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Romancing the stone red sports car

Does anyone know what model is the red sports car Joan's sister gets kidnapped in at the start of Romancing the stone? Thank you. 200.127.59.151 (talk) 16:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

music

Who sings the song "Sweet Soul Music" ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.198.235.153 (talk) 19:09, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. You can easily look up this topic yourself. Please see Sweet Soul Music. For future questions, try using the search box at the top left of the screen. It's much quicker, and you will probably find a clearer answer. If you still don't understand, add a further question below by clicking the "edit" button to the right of your question title. .--Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's one possibility. If 76.198 is of a certain age (like me), however, he or she may be referring to the 1967 hit—number 2 on both the pop and R&B charts—sung by Arthur Conley. We don't have an article about it, apparently. Deor (talk) 19:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

June 2

PARADISE LOST THE MOVIE

Hi I just read the paradise lost article and I was wondering why,it hasn`t been adapted in a movie or has there been any attempt to adapt it into a film,personally I think it would make a great motion picture don`t you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.249.145.120 (talk) 02:05, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, but it has been adapted into a film, several times. See John Milton's IMDB entry. I haven't seen any of the films, so I can't say if they're any good, but there they are. In fact, apparently there's a new version in the works, up for release in 2009. -- Captain Disdain (talk) 07:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops, spoke too quickly -- most of those are actually concert recordings, not film adaptations. My bad! Still, the 1912 film appears to be an adaptation, as does the upcoming film. -- Captain Disdain (talk) 07:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The wonderful John Collier wrote a screenplay for a Paradise Lost movie, but it was never filmed. It's been published, though (see "Other works" in the article I linked). Deor (talk) 18:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dracula, Werewolf and Frankenstein

Growing up in the 70's, I owned a book and record that had a chilling story about Dracula, Wolfman and Frankenstein. Th plot line was basically about a couple who is lost while traveling and wind up staying at a castle owned by a man who turns out to be Dracula. He is also doing experiments and winds up creating Frankenstein's monster. There is a side plot where the lady gets bitten by a wolf, and becomes a werewolf herself. The story concludes with Dracula, the Werewolf and Frankenstein all fighting in the castle's lab, and the whole place explodes. I have searched everywhere for a copy of this, (Ebay, etc) with no luck. Does anyone know where I can find a copy of this and what the title is? It used to scare me when I was a child but was so fun to read and listen to. 10draftsdeep (talk) 19:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I did quite a bit of searching on this, but to no avail. I am useless. But I still have to say this: "The story concludes with Dracula, the Werewolf and Frankenstein all fighting in the castle's lab, and the whole place explodes." Holy crap. That's awesome. -- Captain Disdain (talk) 08:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I did alot of looking myself with no luck. I remember the cover art being blue/purple and it had all three on the cover.Thanks for trying, I'll find it someday. cheers,10draftsdeep (talk) 12:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

TV Show about two nerds living together

My aunt was trying to tell me about a sitcom featuring two nerds living together in an apartment. She also said there was a dumb blonde neighbor. She forgot the name of the show, and I want to know what show it was. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.234.5.193 (talk) 20:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Big Bang Theory --LarryMac | Talk 20:38, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Or The Odd Couple (TV series) if she's referring to an "older" show. --76.111.32.200 (talk) 17:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't agree about "The Odd Couple". Felix was certainly a nerd and a neat freak, but not Oscar, he was a slob. StuRat (talk) 13:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Art music

I don't understand how art music could be construed as being higher than any other form or music, and as how music couldn't be art music, as all music is art music; each person is a different listener, they listen to different genres because they like how they sound; for me, for example, I like trance because, when I listen to it, I feel like I'm on drugs, and I love it because I can get into a trance or close to it, without taking drugs. The article says that art music is like literary analysis, that you can break it down into individual parts of a music piece or work, however you want to call it, and analyze, like the novel Ulysses, ″Oh, the composer added this bell ring here because it means that the man will soon die.″, when it is impossible to even presume that a the song is even about a man walking through the woods and coming home to this husband and then having sex with him and then chopping his head off!68.148.164.166 (talk) 23:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In fact it is even racist to think that (traditional (or folk)) Hungarian music never had these same presumptions. How many folk songs have never been the telling of a creation story, let's say. How is that the congo drum beat of some African musics not be analyzed? How is that the First Nations drum NOT represent the heartbeat, when you can ask ANY First Nations person and they would say so???68.148.164.166 (talk) 23:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a question? Julia Rossi (talk) 00:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, can't you see it?68.148.164.166 (talk) 02:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No. I see a rant and a very juvenile need for others to agree with you. You obviously know you are right and everyone else is wrong, so why do you need the encouragement? -- kainaw ™ 02:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

68.148.164.166 (talk) 03:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)The problem is YOU see a rant. If you really need a question here: What makes art music art music? Why is art music art music?68.148.164.166 (talk) 03:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Art music page doesn't say anything about it being "higher", or that other genres cannot contain symbolism or tell stories and so on. The term "art music" is just a name. It shouldn't be taken so literally. It doesn't imply that other genres are not art or music. It is just a label. As for what sorta of music are considered art music, the page seems to describe its characteristics pretty well. Pfly (talk) 04:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is what it says:

The term primarily refers to classical traditions (including contemporary as well as historical classical music forms) which focus on formal styles, invite technical and detailed deconstruction^[1] and criticism, and demand focused attention from the listener.

How is it that nonclassical songs, like electronic, for example, be less likely be art music?68.148.164.166 (talk) 11:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I actually agree with you. "Art music" as a category seems somewhat unhelpful to me. "Art rock", on the other hand, I have no problem with. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 13:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Although, to be honest, I never saw Black Angels or 4'33" to be particularly "serious" or "erudite." Maybe I'm just a Philistine. bibliomaniac 1 5 05:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, Black Angels sounds like fingernails on a blackboard to me. I don't like any of the names for the genre - art, serious, erudite. Are there better ones out there? One that would be broad enough to include, say, JS Bach (as from the page's def, his music should qualify)? Pfly (talk) 05:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that "composition" is the nearest thing to an umbrella term covering non-popular Western music. This term is usually taken to exclude jazz, rock, pop, soul, R&B etc, even though these forms are all, to some extent, composed. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 07:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

June 3

Atonality

Tonality is described as perspective, where, as I know it, perspective is a point of focus, as when you are drawing lines, they all will converge on one point. Is it possible to have atonality, tonality and polytonality, and multitonality?

What I mean is that (I believe), say in the C Major key, have not just the C Major cord the Tonality (or whatever) but have other cords equally tonal (or whatever)? (Of course, this C Major key wouldn't be a C Major key (you know what I mean))

Also, but for multitonality:

The same question, but is it possible to have some chords more tonal (or whatever) than others?68.148.164.166 (talk) 03:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Polytonality, yes. Not quite sure what you mean by multitonality, but in a tonal system (let's call it a key) some other keys are more closely related than others. Like, say, in the key of C it is easy to slip into the key of G. It sounds a little odd to me, but it makes sense to say that in the key of C the G chord has more tonal power of its own than most other chords. If this is something in the direction of what you're asking, perhaps take a look at the pages Tonicization, Closely related key, and Modulation (music). Pfly (talk) 04:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What I meant by multitonality:

Ok, think of how I described polytonality with my first post, but instead of have 2 chords coequal (what I mean is that 2 chords are equally strong), ~~2 chords are equally strong,~~ but a 3 chord is weaker.

Another question, is it possible that:

Chord 5 is 5 times stronger than Chord 1

Chord 4 is 4 times stronger than Chord 1

Chord 3 is 3 times stronger than Chord 1

Chord 2 is 2 times stronger than Chord 1?

And my last question, is it possible that:

Chord 5 is 5 times stronger than Chord 1

Chord 4 is 3.3463634736737 times stronger than Chord 1

Chord 3 is 1+(1/2) times stronger than Chord 1

Chord 2 is

{\sqrt[{12}]{2}}

times stronger than Chord 1?

Thanks!68.148.164.166 (talk) 11:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds a little odd to me, but it makes sense to say that in the key of C the G chord has more tonal power of its own than most other chords.
— Pfly (talk) 04:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and what is tonal power? Thanks.68.148.164.166 (talk) 11:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Unequal"

It is now well-accepted that of the two primary tuning systems in gamelan music, slendro and pelog, only slendro somewhat resembles five-tone equal temperament while pelog is highly unequal; however, Surjodiningrat et al. (1972) has analyzed pelog as a seven-note subset of nine-tone equal temperament.
— http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_temperament#5_and_7_tone_temperaments_in_ethnomusicology

What does "unequal" mean?68.148.164.166 (talk) 11:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As equal temperament is "...a system of tuning in which every pair of adjacent notes has an identical frequency ratio.", I would expect unequal to not include identical ratios between notes. I am not clear on whether this "unequal" refers to the tuning of the notes or simply the way the modes are constructed (using only 5 of the seven possible notes). Since the tuning of gamelans is so variable, I suspect the unequal may refer to the mode construction. Rmhermen (talk) 13:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Simpsons

How many spoof episodes of the Simpsons have there been that include rehashed numbers from musicals - for instance 'see my vest', &c.? -russ (talk) 17:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All Singing, All Dancing is one. Rmhermen (talk) 18:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wheelie bin song

About a year ago on TV I saw an act featuring a line of wheelie bins on stage, music started (sorry I don't know the name of the song), and the performers popped up out of the bins to sing bits of the song. It was hilarious. The song is th same and the effect was similar to this amateur video. Does anyone know the name of the act, or at least the song used? Astronaut (talk) 19:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know the ad, but the song is Mah Nà Mah Nà. It was also seen in Sesame Street, among other things. -- Captain Disdain (talk) 21:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh yes, that's the right song. Just to clarify though, it was not an advert but a stage act - part of some kind of variety performance if I recall correctly. Astronaut (talk) 00:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Helena Bonham Carter

Where can I find pictures of her from the film Where Angels Fear to Tread? David Pro (talk) 22:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here. David Pro (talk) 22:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Final Fight

Where can I find artwork for this game? David Pro (talk) 22:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here. David Pro (talk) 22:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blu-ray

I was just wondering where could I go to find a list of all blu-ray dvds currently available worldwide? Or is there such a website?Jwking (talk) 22:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The list is growing more quickly every day, so I don't know that anyone could keep up. You can search Amazon.com, though, and get a pretty accurate listing. Just go here for a list of all of them available. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 02:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

June 4

Missing credit in the article on: Gael García Bernal

Under the film credits of Gael García Bernal, is missing the movie (Spanish) Mala Educacion and listed in another full Wikipedia article under (English) Bad Education.

I would make changes but I do not know how to do this. Can you write the originator/author to do so? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SirvienteBoricua (talk • contribs) 03:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bad Education is already listed under the "Filmography" section of our Gael García Bernal article. Is your complaint that the Spanish translation of the title isn't included ? StuRat (talk) 13:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

shortest

Who is the shortest man, woman? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.131.186.19 (talk) 04:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How this falls under "Entertainment", I don't know but you may be interested in List of shortest people. Dismas|^(talk) 05:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if they are setting up a dwarf bowling contest, that would fall under entertainment. :-) StuRat (talk) 12:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

^ Siron, Jacques "Musique Savante (Serious music)", Dictionnaire des mots de la musique, Outre Mesure, Paris, p. 242. ISBN 2-907891-22-7

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