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Voltairine de Cleyre
Voltairine de Cleyre

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on June 8

Articles created/expanded on June 7

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I shortened it. Daniel Case (talk) 02:58, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 6

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(alt) ... that the Embassy of Uzbekistan in Washington, D.C. was originally used as an embassy by the Canadian government? APK yada yada 21:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Whichever.--Bedford Pray 15:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Catholic Church of St. Catherine
Catholic Church of St. Catherine

Articles created/expanded on June 5

Should there be a link to the "tourist attraction"? --74.14.16.84 (talk) 02:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
November 1997 Luxor massacre says 59 tourists died. Tourism in Egypt says 57. The two articles need to be consistent. And a picture of the site of the attack (pictured right) may be more relevant than the pyramid pic. --74.13.130.34 (talk) 04:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now the articles are consistant. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 00:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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I'd drop the PEACOCK-ish word "prominent", too. --74.13.126.126 (talk) 05:44, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hillsboro Central
Hillsboro Central

Articles created/expanded on June 4

Please mention the country in the hook. --74.13.126.126 (talk) 05:47, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the original hot dog on a stick to be served at Cozy Dog Drive-in was called a Crusty Cur?
  • Alt Hook... that Ed Waldmire, creator of Cozy Dog Drive-in, is considered to be one of the earliest people to invent the corn dog?
Self-nom <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 21:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
User:IvoShandor should be recognized as a co-contributor for helping out and also finding the image. :)<3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 08:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is an erroneous fact, the invention should be qualified as it is a corn dog on a stick, not too mention the fact that this is far from accepted as fact. See Chicago Trib article (link is dead but its available at ProQuest) from Aug. 16, 2006, titled "Birthplace (maybe) of the corn dog and Edwin Aldmire memoir. Given this I would say that saying he is one of the first people to invent it probably wouldn't even be correct, as this is based solely on his claim alone. I would be more comfortable with a different hook altogether, thoughts?IvoShandor (talk) 07:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I changed the hook, but it still means the same thing. I will do a little more research on the corn dog maybe tomorrow. <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 08:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This issue is being addressed by myself and the creator, the article will be ready for DYK so please don't ignore it based on this discussion. See Talk:Cozy Dog Drive-in if you would like to assist in research on the corn dog (now that just sounds hilarious).--IvoShandor (talk) 09:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've tried to fix that, by supporting both key statements. It is, alas, difficult to find sources on the topic online. That in itself should raise the merit of its inclusion, as the wikipedia article is virtually all there is out there in English. athinaios | Talk 14:30, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

*... that the National Prison Rape Elimination Commission is mandated with studying prison rape in the United States? Article written and suggested by (this is my first attempt at Did you know?): --Aujourd'hui, maman est morte (talk) 07:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The second one is better because it incorporates two articles. Go with it! BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 21:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Embassy of Colombia in Washington, D.C. a more relevant page to link to than ambassador? --74.13.130.34 (talk) 04:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Anyways, someone has already renamed the article.--Bedford Pray 17:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... our article on the naming issue suggests otherwise: Naming the American Civil War. I think it was the right move to fix it. Thanks! --JayHenry (talk) 00:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Long before the German Empire was proclaimed in 1870? --74.13.126.77 (talk) 05:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the attempt to unify Germany during the revolutions of 1848/49 did not succeed, but important progress was made anyway, kind of symbolic though. The parliament could not command an army, but they founded and funded the first German Reichsflotte Navy, they adopted the black-red-gold Flag of Germany, and proclaimed the constitution. -- Matthead  Discuß   15:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length and ref verified. A suggestion for improvement would be to add what the bolded words in the article mean in English. Thingg 18:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded accordingly. -- Matthead  Discuß   14:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
To accommodate Superman's wardrobe needs? :) --74.13.130.34 (talk) 04:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 3

Ready to go as far as I am concerned. It sounds much better for a hook! Great job. This is what the source speaks on this part (ISBN 0195665422 Oxford University Press): It is a remarkable scene and speech. Haridása refused to recite from Yavana scriptures as he was urged to do and in consequence was sentenced, beaten, and left for dead in the river. His miraculous recovery convinced the populace that he was a pir and prompted, according to our author, the removal of the qazi from office.(Page 414) Wikidās ॐ 05:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neil Hamilton Fairley
Neil Hamilton Fairley
Is there a more catchy hook? Getting laid off like that seems common and unsurprising. --74.13.129.135 (talk) 03:51, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The surprising part, I thought, was that a major U.S. university would terminate a sport like baseball. But if the focus seems too much on the layoff part, an alternate hook could be:
  • ... that Walter Livsey kept wicket so well in his debut cricket match in 1913 that the opposing team only scored three runs from his mistakes? alternative would be "only scored three leg byes" depending on whether you think the average person would know what a leg bye was, up to you. SGGH speak! 15:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Length/date/reference verified (Wisden: "gave an immediate sign of his class, allowing only 3 byes in an innings of 554.") As the match scorecard also shows 3 byes, not leg-byes as the article said, I've fixed the article and taken the liberty of correcting the wikilink in the hook. BencherliteTalk 09:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Can you give a chapter number or something for the quote from cite 11 (the Miller book, I think it is). I don't feel like trying to track that quote down for myself, thanks. Gatoclass (talk) 07:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"despite"? Maybe the "intense media and public attention" drove people away? BTW, "5,000 to" seems unnecessary. --74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agree that this "despite" sounds odd - what does the first part of this sentence have to do at all with the second part? Has this sort of comparison been made in any independent WP:RS/WP:V sources - or is this conclusion being made for the first time in this sentence? Seems to be pushing something. Cirt (talk) 09:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. If I come up with some other way to express it I might give it another try. Steve Dufour (talk) 01:40, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Look, I'm sorry, but you have cherry picked your sources in the article now to claim that the Church has never had more than 5000 members, when in fact you have several sources saying they have tens of thousands of members. Neither the new hook you have submitted nor the article as it currently stands is eligible in my opinion, as you have effectively engaged in original research. It also makes me wonder how accurate the other claims in the article might be. Striking the latter comment as the changes to the article were apparently made by another user rather than Steve. Gatoclass (talk) 08:21, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A DYK hook that works better without a question mark at the very end?! :-) --74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some oppose all multi-sentence hooks, but if there is a multi-sentence hook, then the question mark belongs after the first sentence because of the implied "Did you know...". I put that in the rules a couple months ago. Art LaPella (talk) 20:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I know this is a bit unconventional, but since it's an important book and two famous and important literary figures I thought I'd be bold and see what others thought. --JayHenry (talk) 23:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How about "... that This Side of Paradise, F. Scott Fitzgerald's debut novel, was written in a successful attempt to convince Zelda Sayre to marry him?" Mangoe (talk) 16:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If we can't stomach the break from convention, can we make it active voice at least? "... that F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote his debut novel This Side of Paradise in a successful attempt to convince Zelda Sayre to marry him?" --JayHenry (talk) 00:27, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think that is very good. Steve Dufour (talk) 05:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I crossed out the first "the" as it seems unnecessary. I'd also suggest linking to Secularism in Turkey, but we don't have a wikipage about Modernism in Turkey to link to. --74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good point - I will simply link both to Atatürk's Reforms. Vishnava talk 13:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that Lorin Maazel was 75 years old when his first opera, 1984, had its world premiere in 2005? (self-nom). 14:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
German Empire war ensign 1848–52
Let's make this a 2-in-1 hook with the candidate below. --74.13.126.77 (talk) 05:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Let's make this a 2-in-1 hook with the candidate above. --74.13.126.77 (talk) 05:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that the German Reichsflotte Navy was founded on 14 June 1848 before the German Empire was proclaimed on 28 March 1849, and that it fought only in the Battle of Heligoland (1849) on 4 June against Denmark? (rather long?) -- Matthead  Discuß   16:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


(expanded > 5x since May 29) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like most of the expansion was done on the 3rd instead of the 29th. So shouldn't it should be listed in June 3rd section, not May 29th?--293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 06:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I guess. Depends where you want to set the start point. I'll have to count it up but I suspect it is over 5x since June 3rd too. I just wanna leave it where it has most chance of gettin' picked is all...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not the one that makes the final cut, but best thing I would say is, move it to the June 3rd section (seeing the bulk of your edits were done on that day compared to your two minor edits on the 29th), that way you have at least a couple of days for it to "settle" abit just in case you need to do some tweaking or someone has a concern about your hook. --293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 21:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Has Batton himself done anything interesting? Why bring up Lee, who is not really famous around the world? --74.13.129.135 (talk) 03:51, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. This is the first time I have ever heard that a mill churns out pianos. :) --74.13.129.135 (talk) 03:51, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on June 2

Reference, date, length verified. Good to go! --Rosiestep (talk) 03:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
An Italian Wall Lizard
An Italian Wall Lizard
added "in 1951".-- Matthead  Discuß   22:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks man. Tymek (talk) 03:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps "Polish" should link to Music of Poland, allowing "Poland" to link to Poland? --74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(alt hook) *... that the bobsled from the 1932 Olympic Games, which had been missing for more than sixty years, was donated to the Lake Placid Winter Olympic Museum in 2002? still self TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 18:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
the bobsled? was there only one used? See Talk:Lake Placid Winter Olympic Museum.-- Matthead  Discuß   22:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 03:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Make sure to cite this in the intro where it is stated ... I had to take stab at the footnotes. Daniel Case (talk) 03:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 03:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Instead of using "nowiki", try ′ (about 2cm below the preview button) --74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was once a great science fiction fan and I've never even heard of this book. Also, one of your refs is entitled "Hubbard hot-author status called illusion", which doesn't sound like they are about to heap the guy with praise. Hubbard is usually regarded as a hack writer in SF, so I am kind of suprised by this claim. Have you actually read these articles yourself? Gatoclass (talk) 06:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, I have, and even that particular article that you refer to does acknowledge that this particular novel is seen as a classic in the Golden Age of Science Fiction genre. Feel free to check the cites - I did use one or two press releases but really only for basic info like publication re-release dates. Every single sentence is backed up to multiple WP:RS/WP:V sources. Cirt (talk) 07:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • On request from Cirt I just took a look, and everything seems fine to me. I don't have access to the offline sources, but I trust him to not make it up—I didn't have any WTF moments while reading over it. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 07:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Assertions of "early" or "late" require dates in order to be meaningful. I inserted the publishing dates from the article. --Wetman (talk) 19:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that's necessary, the Golden Age of Science Fiction article makes clear what the period was. Gatoclass (talk) 04:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agree w/ Gatoclass (talk · contribs) and removed the note of the years. It also made the hook too bulky. Cirt (talk) 10:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Cited source confirms 1963 but says nothing about Khan visit. Daniel Case (talk) 16:44, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Changed and updated the hook to assuage your concerns. Please check now, Vishnava talk 03:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 16:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Rewording hook so that it's clear the highlighted article is the film, not the play. Daniel Case (talk) 16:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified for this one. Daniel Case (talk) 16:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OR
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues I like this one more but it's not mentioned in the article text, much less cited. Daniel Case (talk) 16:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 1

Can we not say "both"? It gives the wrong impression that it was a palace and an elementary school at the same time. --74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I concur, it does sound a little weird. Thingg 13:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay then. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 21:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Length OK; I can verify the palace part but the cited link says nothing as far as I can tell about a school, and it looks to me like it may not even be talking about the same building. Can we clarify this? Daniel Case (talk) 16:18, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. I presume this didn't make it at ITN? ALso, the Euronews link cited as the first footnote redirects to that site's main page. Use one of the other ones. Daniel Case (talk) 16:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Have removed the Euronews reference and replaced it with other ones and no this did not appear in the In the News section. Davewild (talk) 20:25, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length is OK; the citation doesn't make this claim - rather, it states that the bridge is "perhaps the only British-built bridge in the United States" (see this). That's not nearly as definitive. Mindmatrix 03:10, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
how about an alternate hook of "...that the steel beams of Opaekaa Road Bridge, in Kapa'a, Hawaii were forged in 1890 by Alexander Findlay & Company in Motherwell, Scotland?" Mindmatrix 03:23, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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