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The Mother Teresa article is currently protected so I don't think it is a good idea to edit it right now. I've reverted your change and noted it on the talk page so it may be made once the protection is removed. Angela 16:41, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Lol. They do?? I didn't think I was scary. Angela

Thanks for the protection. I'd hit the three reverts limit. Angela 02:23, 16 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for your note on the pump. -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 04:13, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I just read your user page which entertained me quite a bit. I was fascinated by the origins of your user name. You sound like an extremely interesting and intelligent guy and are an extremely valuable contributer. Keep up the good work and best wishes. Alexandros 00:26, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC) (whose name origins are not quite as interesting)

Hi, Thanks for undeleting Tamil literature. I will just put in whatever I have written by today, my time KRS 10:38, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I would like to express a heartfelt thanks to: Κσυπ Cyp , Cimon Avaro on a pogostick, snoyes, Adam Bishop , Secretlondon, Hephaestos , 207.189.98.44 , Jamesday, Pakaran for nominating me and supporting me. It is encouraging to know that my efforts over the past 6 months have been appreciated. I prize your actions all the more knowing that many of you were not familiar with my work and had to do some research to decide whether to support me or not (because I limit my contributions to the 750 business/economics articles) . Thank you for the time, the effort, and the confidence.

There was a minority that did not support me because of my name. It seems that half have a problem because they read “shat” into it and half because of the word “god”. I find this amazing. The people that read “shat” into the character string had to ignore the commonly used word “hat” and pick out a word that has not been in common use for more than a century. My spell checker is currently telling me that the word dosn’t exist. One complainant insisted on converting “Monad” into “gonads” and “Excrescent” into “excrement”. Another saw “a dog eating a bone” as a sexual act. All I can say to these people is “Get professional help”.

As for changing my name, I have decided not to do that for two reasons. One is a philosophical reason. For an explanation, read The Crucible, particularly where John Proctor declares the importance of your name. The price of adminship is too high. The other reason is a practical one. I find it useful to use the same name on all my online activities. It is interesting that two universities and several commercial sites don’t have a problem with my name. Maybe it is not all that surprising since they are not inhabited by trolls trying to forward their cause.

Hope to see you around the business/economics pages in the future. mydogategodshat 03:05, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Finnish Wikipedia

Thanks for the notice! Jos minulla sattuu olemaan aikaa perjantaina niin tulen kyllä auttamaan. -- Jniemenmaa 19:23, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

It's kind of too bad MyRedDice deleted your attack on me at Wikipedia:Protected page, because I thought it was pretty clever. --The Cunctator 06:28, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Right. Just so you know, I have no problem with you, only with your actions. -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick 08:15, Nov 29, 2003 (UTC)

Hello Cimon. Just to know, why did you not respond to my question ? Anthère 08:23, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Um. It might help if you told me which question. In a more general manner, without wishing to offend; there is a Finnish proverb, which I have added to wikiquote, which states that "One fool asks more questions than ten wise men can spare time answering." Again, this is not against you, but I am genuinely puzzled which question, and where do you mean? -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick 09:14, Nov 29, 2003 (UTC)

that is a nice proverb :-)

It is in Wikipedia:Requests for adminship.

No need to go, I copy it here

It came from a comment from Heph It is worth pointing out also that when questions were raised about The Cunctator's behavior in the edit war, the main reasoning behind his remarks in his own defense were along the lines that different rules should apply to administrators than apply to other users.

My question was Out of curiosity, where is that proposition that sysops and non sysops should follow different rules Cimon ? What does it consist in ? Is it just in a talk page or is there a meta page mentionning it ? ant

I think (please forgive me if I am in error) this is out of context. I think I will place some words in the original page. -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick 18:12, Nov 29, 2003 (UTC)

ok

Since you have been following the debate, I thought you could tell me. That is...on the fr wiki, we are rather currently following different patterns as regard making people sysop. We try to favor a rather small number of sysops, rather than what is done on en, which is trying to favor the sysoping quite quickly. We have numerous very trusted people who are not sysops. And I trust all sysops because I know them. There are so many sysops on en, noone can know all of them, and trust all of them. It really looks like there are two populations; so the idea of different rules does not appear so strange to me. I felt different things applied to me when I was not, even if I nearly never use them here. Sysops are certainly requested to behave more strictly than non sysops, so that is a rule in itself. If there was a discussion about this, i would be interested by reading people opinion.

Right. No sysop should fail to be worthy of my trust. But when they do, I would not be doing right by ignoring it! -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick 18:12, Nov 29, 2003 (UTC)

Aside from that, be careful to write my name anthere or anthère or ant as you prefer, but not anthére. Not to be a pain, but there are some anthére on other wikipedia, who are not me, but anti-me. So... :-)

have a good day Cimon

Too <expletive> late. It is not your fault, or anyones, but I have just had the worst day of at least this year. (Foggy, hungover, received and signed eviction notice etc.) -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick 18:12, Nov 29, 2003 (UTC)

I am deeply sorry for you. Perhaps you will also have a hangover today as well. :-( Anthère 11:58, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Would it be worth someone nominating Mydogategodshat again? I was thinking of writing something along the lines of "Excellent contributions, and this user has now shown that he will not give up his ideals (submission to seemingly irrational orders to change username) in order to gain more power (adminship). This demonstrates that he is unlikely to abuse or be corrupted by admin powers.". But I decided a potential second nomination would probably be better by someone other than me, though. (Asking a few people this.) Κσυπ Cyp 13:11, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Have you ever started to consider that maybe I may not know all Monthy Python jokes in english ? And that what is a joke for you, does not represent anything to me ? That instead of trying to lighten the atmosphere by making a joke to indicate to me I must not take your comments personnaly (which was very nice of you to do), I could read the so-called joke just as an attack (hence reading all your comments as criticism) ?

I know not Monthy Python english jokes Cimon. I am open to humour, only when I understand it was meant to be humour. Please next time, be heavy in your writting, and place the comment unto

<joke>Funny comment</joke> <-----eh, Anthere, watch out, this a joke, right, laugh Anthere (or ask me where is the fun ?)

thanks and sorry

out of interest, is it you who suggested that we wrote about monty python in starting something on Michael Palin on fr yesterday ? :-)

Sorry, no, must be someone else with a sick sense of humor :-)

Washoe (chimpanzee)

Thanks, it's nice to be appreciated! Yes, dire, wasn't it? I've been meaning to fix it for a while, and finally got drawn into doing it by trying to sort out the equally ghastly Irene Pepperberg (the article, I mean - Irene's ok herself, just a bit fierce in her response to any criticism of Alex). The whole comparative psychology and animal cognition area in wiki is pretty awful, but I don't have time to do more than tinker with it... it would help if we actually had an animal cognition page in the first place. seglea 09:02, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my request for adminship. Bmills 08:55, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)

You understand of course that we all have an ulterior motive in wanting to have as many sysops as possible. Less work all around. Speaking of which, I haven't really excercised my own sysop power nearly at all in the last few days, not even deleting a "asdfjkl" test. I fear the Finnish Wikipedia is starting to exert some pull on me. In any case, congratulations! -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen 09:24, Dec 18, 2003 (UTC)

again another wikipedian wearing hat... :-)

Mother Teresa

Just a quick note that I'm withdrawing from the article for a month. I don't have all day to deal with the likes of Gbog and Jtdirl. I have some long term plans to address this problem, so I don't care much about the temporary state of the article. If you want to continue the fight against evil, you know where to go.—Eloquence

Dear Cimon Avaro. I am the Evil. And the Evil is humbly askking you to explain your unexplained revert. Thanks gbog 17:30, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Well, since you have deigned to notice my existence...

I am really sorry sorry if I have been rude to you. I didn't see many comments from you on talk page. Once, you said something to me and I answered. Have I deigned you? In those long pages, I have surely missed your appeals to me.

Me again. I'm wondering if didn't miss one of your contrib to talk:MT. seeing this [1], I see a (to gbog) line, but it is not very easy to find in the long page. I would like a (diff) tool here on user contrib pages. Does this exist? gbog

Eloquence may well be more evil than you. His hopes of me defending his views about MT are laughable...

I know.

I only defend truth. I will not defend good even if I knew what it was...

That is great. How lucky you are to know what is truth. Would you explain me where you did find it? I personnally have many difficulties to know what is truth, with the debatable exception of 1+1=2. (I know what is real, and that suffice to my daily life, don't worry for me.)

Thanks for spotting Use talk:Angela! I've deleted it now. Angela . 19:34, Jan 12, 2004 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed your vote against Gene for brilliant prose. If you find it systemically deficient, I guess I won't try to make any changes, because I think it's quite good overall, but if there were specific areas for improvement you could name, I might be able to do something about them. Care to make any suggestions? 168... 01:07, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

It was Israel in my case. I suppose I'll be mentioned on the mailing list soon. Fame at last.:) Of course, I also put in quotes from the Road Map which used the word terrorism, so I suppose someone on the Palestinian side will condemn me as well, eventually.:) Jamesday 14:50, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for mediation

Hi. Look what I did! Don't be mad, k? I figured it was better than nothing, and Ed told me to take my problems there, so... let me know what you think? JackLynch 12:30, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Thanks! JackLynch 21:23, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hello :-) please read this [2] if you are not registered to the ml. Thanks Anthere

The trouble with "conflict between..." is that it just degenerates into a circular bitchfest, and so rarely reaches a conclusion. I think most of the folks listed there are convinced that a small clique of activist loonies are hounding them, and that the corpus-wikipediae would be right behind them, if only it knew of the situation (sometimes they're right, most times they're wrong). Only a vote clarifies matters, and the only "who's good/who's bad" voting pages we have are bans and admin/deadmin. We also seem to have lots of mechanisms for chastising bad wikipedians (of whom there really are never more than a handful at any given time) but very little means of praising the ongoing good work of the selfless many. Frankly, Wik's nomination of "notorious problem user" Angela turned out to be really very touching. Boils need to be lanced. -- Finlay McWalter 01:46, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

You've got mail!

I have agreed to arbitration in Wikipedia:Requests for mediation. -- Mr-Natural-Health 05:11, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hello Cimon. I think there is a problem with the email adress you provided. The mails are being delayed. Anthere

switch to yahoo :-) ant

You've got mail!

As I have a life, I obviously have a limited amount of time available to spend on this process. Beyond a job, running a 75 page health accredited web site, I run a Yahoo Mailing list where I comment on the latest health research, or about 2 studies a day, 365 days of the year.

I have already stated my position on numerous occasions, in numerous different places. And, my editing activities have been well documented in page history. Likewise, the editing tactics of RK and the others are well documented with the exception that RK, or somebody else, has selectively deleted some of their editing activities from page history.

I originally declined because of my perception that it would only be another structured way to waste more of my limited time. On my mailing list and website, I can actually get work done. In this place, everyone is editing the same stuff over and over again in a never ending circle.

If Theresa Knott can demonstrate that something tangible will come out of the process that wont be deleted 100% the first opportunity that these people get, I would be happy to cooperate in the mediation process.

From my viewpoint, alternative medicine is a meaningless place holder top node article that should contain a minimal amount of text. If we can place the links to the branches of alternative medicine in a separate article so that others can add links to new branches as they please the text portion of alternative medicine can then be permanently protected. The problem is that these people have a perverse need to add baseless POV criticism on virtually every line of text in alternative medicine. All the attacks and support should be placed individually in the respective articles that deal with each specific branch of alternative medicine rather than in the place holder top node article called Alternative medicine.

If something tangible like this can be accomplished then, I would be happy to cooperate in the mediation process. -- Mr-Natural-Health 14:40, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

You've got mail!

As far as problems with wikipedia as a community and the individuals there of goes, I wish to proceed directly to arbitration so that the wrong doers can be identified and reprimanded. -- Mr-Natural-Health 01:05, 23 Jan 2004 (UTC)