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Welcome!

Hello, Tm93, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! ➨ ЯEDVEЯS used to be a sweet boy 09:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your speedy deletion question

Totally no biggie. What that phrase means, essentially, is that the article is on one of those given topics, and, to make it short and sweet, doesn't demonstrate why the heck anyone should care. Well, I should probably qualify that more. Essentially, it means the article doesn't put forward anything that demonstrates it even might be notable. Take a look at WP:Notability and its sub-pages for some information. Let me give you an example. If I make a page about my niece, that's blatantly non-notable. You could put a db-bio up on the page and safely expect it to be deleted. Nobody knows or cares about my niece (well, except her family and friends), there are no sources to establish she satisfies any notability criteria or ever will, etc. Now, if you think an article has a shot at notability but just doesn't have sources yet, or if it doesn't meet a SPECIFIC speedy deletion criterion, you might put a subst:prod template (in curly brackets, as always) up instead, followed by an explanation of why it ought to be deleted. For example, in curly brackets rather than quotes, "subst:prod|It's a page about the user's cat. Do I really need to explain the problem with this?" This starts a countdown of five days, during which others can remove the template if they feel it's erroneous or if they fix the problem. For example, if I make a page about my cat... well, there is no speedy deletion criterion for "non-notable pets", so you'd probably want to put a subst:prod template up (even though I bet you could get away with tagging it under db-vandalism or db-nonsense). Now, if you think the issue is going to be controversial, or if someone removes the prod template for no reason or for a really flimsy one, your recourse is an AfD template. You can then set up a page at AfD explaining why you feel the page should be deleted. If you use Twinkle, that handy program will set this page up for you automatically (though it sometimes takes a second). Other users can come in and discuss why they agree/disagree or propose alternatives, and after five days, an admin will make a ruling based on the discussion and act appropriately. Unlike subst:prod, AfD notices are not to be removed from pages until the subject is closed (and users who do so should be warned). Another tool you might want to be aware of is subst:prod-nn. If you just plain want to argue a page is non-notable, but it ISN'T elegible for a specific speedy deletion criterion, you can use this. Essentially, it affirms that you have attempted to find sources to verify the page as notable and have come up empty. You SHOULD actually do so before using this template, of course. It also provides links so others can confirm this. Try it out in your sandbox if you want. It carries a little more weight if you're arguing non-notability. Is that all clear enough? Any questions? - Vianello (talk) 18:29, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Technically it sort of will. While the tag is up, the page will be listed in the appropriate category page (prod pages, pages for speedy deletion, AfD, etc.), but removing the template will also instantly remove it from that category. AfD is a LITTLE different, as that basically just provides a link to the article's page on AfD. If such a page has been created, then that page would need removal too. But unless you use the Twinkle function, you won't have created such a page by accident. - Vianello (talk) 18:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, it's all good. If you want, you could just go to the page, blank it, and put up a db-author or db-test speedy deletion template up. That'll make it quite abundantly clear what the situation is. Accidents happen. - Vianello (talk) 18:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I betcha what happened is the page got deleted and then someone re-created it. That would explain why it's not in the history, as well as what happened to the template. Just slap it up again if the problem isn't fixed. - Vianello (talk) 02:07, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reasons

Never use the {{db}} tag without giving a reason. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 07:09, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Question

Hi. It says on my userpage, I registered on October 4, 2006. My first edit was at 20:52 UTC. If you're wondering about my edits, you can check the first edit counter here, although it's a bit slow. Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 13:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

TWINKLE

If you want to be a newpage patroller, I suggest you use Twinkle. Thanks.Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 08:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Then download Mozilla Firefox. It's free. And the cookie was a note to encourage you to be more cheerful. Thanks, and happy editing! Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 09:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sporn

Hello Tm93! I saw your comment at Redvers' talk page, apparently about the article Sporn you created? Yes, I'm aware of that joke, and I'm not surprised that the article was removed. In the future however, if it attracts more controversy, a mention of it might fit somewhere in the main Spore article under a (sub)section called Criticism (which doesn't exist yet). Cheers, Face 10:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, RHaworth just told me that you didn't create the article, but actually tried to have it deleted. So... then what exactly was the conflict you were talking about? Just let me know if I can help. Cheers, Face 16:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. Redvers hasn't been active the last few days, so that's why I decided to answer your message myself. I hope he doesn't mind ;-). For more examples of the subject in question, see this (LOL!). Cheers, Face 19:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shaka Laka Boom Boom (Indian Drama serial)

A couple of things. First, you're right. It is bad form for the creator of an article to remove a speedy deletion tag from the page. In general, other editors can remove speedy tags if appropriate, but if it gets quickly retagged, the best approach is to add {{hangon}} and start discussion. (By contrast, any editor can remove the {{prod}} tag at any time, and once it's been removed (unless by clear vandalism), it can't be re-added.)

Back to Umerfhussain. Had he done it more than once, I would have issued a warning while I was considering the page. There is a warning template, {{uw-speedy}}, for editors who inappropriately delete speedy deletion tags from articles they create. You could have added that to the creator's talk page to advise him. (Any editor can warn other editors, and the warning templates are standardized, neutrally-written warnings.)

Had there been a valid rationale, I would have either restored the tag or deleted the article on the spot. Since there was no rationale, I didn't restore the tag. And since it didn't qualify under any of the criteria, I added the appropriate cleanup tags ({{notability}} and {{unreferenced}}, if I recall correctly). —C.Fred (talk) 16:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! In looking at the article today, I found out that an article called Shaka Laka Boom Boom already existed. As a result, the article at Shaka Laka Boom Boom (Indian Drama serial) is now just a redirect to the first article. If you click on the second link, it should say "Redirected from Shaka Laka Boom Boom (Indian Drama serial)" at the top; you can click on the link there to go to the redirect version and see its edit history - that's where your speedy tag and (your? someone else's?) prod are. —C.Fred (talk) 21:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Wiki 'birthday' question

That works. Why do you ask, though? - Vianello (talk) 18:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I think that'd be it. I editted for a little while as an IP, but that's when I got my account, I think. - Vianello (talk) 21:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey,

By reading your UBX's, I see you're pretty cool too. Just know that I edit more in the Simple English Wikipedia. It's good to meet another Christian here on the English Wikipedia! Cheers -- America ^†alk 18:51, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Very true verse. Cheers -- America ^†alk 03:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]