Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/archive May 2004

Add links to stupid, incorrect, or otherwise unwanted page titles to the list below (or use the Vote feature) so an admin can find them, check to see that they are indeed not legitimate pages. If the page should be deleted, an admin will, and the link removed from this page (it will show up on the Wikipedia:Deletion log). If the page should not be deleted, an admin will remove the link from this page. Page titles should stay listed for a minimum of a week before a decision is made.

Also, check the What links here link. Many entries that seem not to belong in an encyclopedia, are linked from Sep 11, 2001 related pages. See Dealing with September 11 pages.

If the content of a page-to-be-deleted exists on some different page, please indicate that, somehow, on the page-to-be-deleted (either by redirecting it to the correctly titled page, or, better for our purposes, putting in a link to it). To facilitate checking that a "page title to be deleted" really ought to be deleted, please don't redirect such pages to page titles to be deleted.

As a general rule, don't delete pages you nominate for deletion. Let someone else do it.

Please review Wikipedia policy on permanent deletion of pages before adding to this page. In the past, about half of the titles added to this page were not deleted. In particular, do not add page titles of stubs that at least have a decent defintion and might in the future become articles. There's no reason to delete those (see Wikipedia:Find or fix a stub). Also, please don't list pages on this page that can easily and sensibly be redirected to another page. E.g., a page called Hume can b e easily and sensibly redirected to David Hume; presidant (a misspelling) can be redirected to president; etc. (Even misspellings can be caught by search engines and provide Wikipedia perfectly relevant traffic!) Similarly, pages in the wrong namespace (for example, user pages in the main namespace), can be redirected and should not be deleted if there are still old links to them.

Discussion about the merits of deleting a page listed here should take place on wikipedia talk:Votes for deletion.

NOTE to Wiki Administrators: Simply deleting a page does not automatically delete its talk page or any subpages. Please delete these pages first, and then the main page. Also, if you delete a page, remove if from this list as well.

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See also : Wikipedia:Deletion log

See also : Wikipedia:Find or fix a stub

Image:Krra.JPG
Image:Front Elev.jpg
- See image pages for reasons. -phma
Flag of Belgium
- Can anyone explain me why this needs a separate page rather than using an :Image link?
United States of America/OldPage
- Jeronimo 00:26 Aug 27, 2002 (PDT)
  - Before it is deleted some version control needs to take place -- that page and the various CIA pages were being edited at the same time by different people. In some places the "old" page is more currently edited and in others the former CIA subpages are. --mav
Gioacchino Rossini Anecdotes
- Jeronimo 05:07 Aug 27, 2002 (PDT)
Wikipedia arranged by topic + Talk
- An old (?) and incomplete (page truncated) topic scheme. I think we already have several similar pages, and this one's obsolete. If we keep it, it should at least go to the Wikipedia: namespace. Jeronimo 11:06 Sep 10, 2002 (UTC)
Ironman Triathlon
- Copyright violation. Jeronimo
ChristianityTalk
- Page claims not to be the talk of the Christianity page, but for general discussion - should therefore be removed or moved to Meta. Jeronimo
DD
- Copyright violation. --mav
Careware
- Copyright violation from same as above. --mav
WLAN
- Copyright violation from same as above. --mav
ADSL Lite
- Copyright violation from same as above. --mav
Kabul River
- Copyright violation
Michael Asher
- Personal page
  - Yep, but it's Cantor Fitzgerald related (see below) -- Nairobiny
Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam/Introduction
- Although part of the (no longer present) original text, this introduction contains some useful information. Should we remove it and wait for original text to come by, or put it as the main article (with some editing)? Jeronimo 10:22 Sep 11, 2002 (UTC)
Free On-line Dictionary of Computing/Status and subpages
- These pages list all topics from FOLDOC, no matter whether they are articles or not. Therefore, like the old "List of Encyclopedia articles", it possibly hides orphans and clutters the most wanted page. Since the lists themselves are of no interest, I vote to delete them. Jeronimo
- If someone chooses to delete this (and I would not be against that), I would like to ask them to first move the last of the notes to the Free On-line Dictionary of Computing page - it would be worth keeping, I think Andre Engels 12:16 Sep 11, 2002 (UTC)
- Please contact Ellmist first - according to the history, he might be using the pages Andre Engels 12:18 Sep 11, 2002 (UTC)
- I would suggest manually removing done articles and useless entries and unlinking everything else until they are mostly empty. In the meantime I believe the whole lot should be moved to the wikipedia namespace as a utility. Aldie 13:38 Sep 11, 2002 (UTC)
  - I have done the unlinking step. They're awfully long files, by the way. Andre Engels
Bonneville Apartments
- advertisement. Robert Merkel 13:18 Sep 11, 2002 (UTC)
John Kevin McAvoy
- personal tribute, not an article. Robert Merkel 13:21 Sep 11, 2002 (UTC)
- Yes, it is a personal tribute, but one that we (well, at least cunc) asked for. It should stay, until we decide were are we going to put them (an special apart maybe?)AN
Man Rated
- dictionary entry, (as yet unwritten) discussion of higher safety requirements for manned craft would be better elsewhere. Robert Merkel 13:25 Sep 11, 2002 (UTC)
Camp
- dreadful, badly written, mis-spelled stub.
  - Improved, distinguished noun from adjective, started on "camp esthetic". Ortolan88 14:47 Sep 13, 2002 (UTC)
September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack/Personal experiences
- Not encyclopedia content, should probably be moved to Meta. Jeronimo 15:14 Sep 10, 2002 (UTC)
  - What to do with many of the non-encyclopedic 9/11 pages is the type of thing that should be brought up and debated on the list (do expect scores of emails though...). BTW, I vote that much of this stuff should be moved to metapedia - which is a traditional wiki that does not pretend to be an encyclopedia (therefore the non-article 9/11 pages will not seem odd there at all). --mav
  - Agree, but I already tried bringing it up to the list, but Cunctator seems personally hurt by such proposals and does everything to prevent this. Jeronimo
  - Agree these would be more appropriate for meta, but these pages are definately not candidates for outright deletion - their history needs to be preserved. Enchanter
  - True, these should not be deleted, but this is the general forum to bring up such problems inside Wikipedia, also for articles that should be on meta. Jeronimo
    - On that note, the meta wiki ought to be upgraded to the current software and we should have a way of cleanly moving (non-)articles to it. I'll bring this up on the list. --Brion 08:03 Sep 12, 2002 (UTC)
  - I would say it should be deleted. Why does NPOV not apply in these cases when it does in the whole rest of Wikipedia? And rather than throwing it onto meta, I would prefer giving it its own Wiki. Andre Engels
  - Hmm...tough call. I'd say that "throwing it onto meta" would not be a good idea. Giving them their own wiki sounds more like it. Any ideas as for the name? could be something like sep11.wikipedia.org, or something like it? In any case, I'd say we wait a few months to discuss the matter further. --AN 21:38 Sep 12, 2002 (UTC)
    - No, we should not wait any longer. I've brought this issue up some months ago, when I was asked to please wait until the 1 year "anniversary". That date has passed now, we should try to make it an encyclopedia article now. Jeronimo
      - It should be moved. It's inherently POV (personal experiences? How much more POV can you get?); it's not an article; we're here to write articles; I don't see the complication. --KQ
Clair Clairmont
- Looks like a genealogical entry, should it be removed? Jeronimo 06:49 Sep 12, 2002 (UTC)
  - Apparently her claim to fame is that she was a buddy of the Shelleys and was present at the shindig that resulted in the writing of Frankenstein (see John William Polidori). Unless there's more than that, it's not a very useful entry. --Brion 08:03 Sep 12, 2002 (UTC)
Warnermendenhall
- Because it is an old userpage, apparently the user doesn't exist anymore. Christian 16:04 Sep 13, 2002 (UTC)
Abbottadad
- As far as I can see none of the information on this page is less than 50 years outdated. Andre Engels 20:55 Sep 13, 2002 (UTC)
Conceit
- Copyright violation. --mav
Natural Resources Defense Council
- Can hardly be called a stub, the only linking page already has more information. Andre Engels 22:45 Sep 14, 2002 (UTC)
South African cuisine
- Copyright violation. --mav
Pumpkin scones
- Copyright violation. --mav
Saint Catherine of Alexandria
- This should have been Catherine of Alexandria to be consistent with the naming conventions and Catherine of Siena, and I have moved the content to the right page. -- isis 15 Sep 2002
O Brother, Where Art Thou/ReviewSummaries
- Don't think that reviews should be in Wikipedia, inherently NPOV. Jeronimo
- Agreed. I had this here before, but user:The Cunctator removed it. I forgot why. But glossing over a review and attributing it to the reviewer (e.g. Roger Ebert) is not the same as including the entire review as an "article" of its own. Collecting reviews is, IMO, not what we're here for. Relevant bits (if any) should be incorporated into the article for O Brother, Where Art Thou? and the rest discarded. --KQ
Electoral college
- U.S. Electoral College has similar information. Does any other country have this system of voting for President? These two pages probably need to be merged. -- Gregory Pietsch
Guru Granth Sahib - text was copied verbatim from a Sikh's site, then replaced with a copyright violation notice. Listed Aug 24 on Wikipedia:Pages needing attention; no attention since 25th. Moved to delenda Sep 15. -phma