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Forbes Global CEO Conference in Sydney - 30 August

If anyone is going to be in Sydney on the night of 30 August, they may want to do a little bit of Wikireporting. Unlike Wikipedia, Wikinews allows you to do original reporting and research.

There is a project page on Wikinews to co-ordinate coverage.

- Borofkin 05:13, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, you can take a look at the 2005 Forbes Global CEO Conference Wikipedia article. - Borofkin 04:56, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Triple J's Impossible Music Festival

I notice the above article had been created so I decided to clean it up and expand it a little. It seems there are a few major live music venues which don't have articles! Is anyone knowledgeable enough to write about Hordern Pavilion, The Palace (venue)/The Palace, Melbourne, Iwaki Auditorium, Summersault (festival), Phoenician Club, Festival Hall, Capitol Theatre, Sydney, Corner Hotel, Enmore Theatre, Transformer (venue), SBW Independent Theatre, Royal Antler Hotel or State Theatre? -- Chuq 12:57, 26 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Meetup in Melbourne, November 15

Angela will be in Melbourne for a conference in November. She would like to meet up with local Wikipedians on Tuesday, November 15. Time and venue are still undecided, I thought we could start discussing that when we know where Angela will be staying, which we don't yet. But put it in your diary. -- Tim Starling 22:14, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

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Further to the discussion on Parliamentary photos: is this a legitimate photo? [54]. If it is, can we phrase our Parliamentary photo acknowledgement the same way? Adam 05:34, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Australia doesn't have crown copyright. Australian copyright law has no special provisions regarding use of materials whose copyright is owned by an Australian government. So I guess the answer is no. Drew Devereux | Talk 06:01, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Australia does have crown copyright, but it doesn't work the same way as that of the UK. In Australian law crown copyright means that the government owns the copyrights om anything made under it's direction or control [55], there are provisions for fair dealing similar to fair use. --nixie 07:15, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I want someone to come up with a formula that enables us to use these photos. It seems absurd that Wikipedians from every other country can use official photos of their elected officials and we cannot - not because the Parliament won't let us, but because of this silly Wikipedia rule. Adam 07:26, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think {{AustraliaGov}}, with the email from AUSPIC pasted on the image discussion page should cover it.--nixie 09:08, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I will try tagging some photos like this:

This photograph is held under Crown copyright by the Commonwealth of Australia. The responsible Commonwealth agency, AUSPIC, gave written permission on 2 August 2005 for this photograph to be used at Wikipedia (see following). The use of this image by is contended to be fair dealing in Australia and fair use in the United States. (Letter from AUSPIC to User:Adam Carr: "Dear Dr Carr, Approval is granted to reproduce images nominated below [photographs of Members, Senators and Governors-General appearing in current and past editions of the Parliamentary Handbook] on the Wikipedia website. Subsequent use by a third pary will incur reproduction fees if that use is of a commercial nature. Copyright remains with AUSPIC. Peter West, Director, AUSPIC auspic@aph.gov.au)"

Adam 06:16, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That seems reasonable. It's unfortunate we need to go to all this trouble just to use pictures of our politicians. Perhaps a link should be provided in the tag to AWNB so that we can deal collectively with any who might have quibbles.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 06:21, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have added photos to William Deane and Bill Hayden with the above tag. Let's see what happens. I hope to get some support from other people here for the use of these photos. Adam 13:37, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

SMH Icon article

In case you missed it - I think pretty trivial but here tis: Wikipedia Worries, Sydney Morning Herald 27 August. Concerns raised in the article were fictional entries, spam and marketing.--AYArktos 08:54, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I find this quote particularly interesting:
However, the concern continues. One anonymous reader contacted Boingboing telling them he worked at a marketing company that uses Wikipedia for its online marketing strategies.
"That includes planting of viral information in entries, modification of entries to point to new promotional sites or 'leaks' embedded in entries to test diffusion of information. Wikipedia is just a more transparent version of [online meeting place] Myspace as far as some companies are concerned. We love it."
-- Chuq 21:56, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The issue of links to commercial sites is a problem, say for example in the Car accident article where one firm of US lawyers seems to contantly spam the site. I don't understand the term "viral entries" in the context of plain text unless they are referring to some sort of subliminal content. I guess that is why so many of us have extensive watch lists and spend too much of our time reverting out inappropriate additions. I don't see it as a big problem at present in Australian content articles though. A bigger problem seems to be vandalism apparently from school students.--AYArktos 22:30, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

John Brogden

This is a major news story, yet it is constantly being removed from WP:ITN. However, I notice that Pat Robertson's comment get to stay on this template for a very long time. It appears that US-centricism strikes again. Anyone who feels as disgusted with this as I do please feel free to comment on Template talk:In the news. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:35, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Spoken like a true New South Welshman who thinks Sydney is the center of the universe. The fact is that the United States is the biggest and most powerful country on Earth, and when somebody who's moderately influential in the Republican Party suggests the assassination of a foriegn leader it *is* more important than an Opposition Leader in an Australian state making stupid remarks. How interested would you be if the Premier of Bavaria which has a population more than twice that of New South Wales, or maybe Alberta, resigned in similar circumstances? --Robert Merkel 05:45, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
If they resigned, then it should go on WP:ITN. As for your lovely bit of abuse about me living in NSW, charming. You are a lovely piece of work: firstly, I am well aware that NSW is not the center of the universe. If the opposition leader in QLD resigned in similar circumstances, I would add this also. Secondly, noone was assasinated that I am aware. Thirdly, you are comparing notablility by population. Basically, by your reasoning, if Charles King had committed his massive electoral fraud today instead of in 1927 then you would not allow it on the template either. In any case, I find your comments to be rather horrid, and uncalled for. Ever read Wikipedia:Assume good faith? I suggest you start now. - Ta bu shi da yu 10:06, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
OK, as far as being rude and personal, that was indeed uncalled for and I apologise. I do, however, stand by the substantive point. From a global perspective, or even an English-speaking world perspective, the resignation of any state/province Opposition Leader (or equivalent) is relatively small bikkies, whether they are from New South Wales, New Jersey, or Nova Scotia. And, yes, the size and economic influence of the particular jurisdiction is relevant. Would you expect anyone from outside Australia to care if Jodeen Carney resigned under virtually any circumstances? --Robert Merkel 12:18, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Apology accepted. This was massive news - almost every paper in Australia picked it up and a considerable number of overseas papers picked it up also. When he attempted self-harm, the story got even bigger. If a bigger issue displaces this one, by all means we should let it scroll off the template. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:44, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Although it's oddly co-incidental in that they both made stupid remarks (and are of the right ;-)). I've made comments again at Template talk:In the news. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 06:00, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Repeatedly replacing one bit of non-notable news with another bit of non-notable news seems to violate WP:POINT.--nixie 03:48, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is the second time I have read you say this about me. Please show me the edit where I replaced anything. Oh? Can't find it? You won't be able to as I did not do this. - Ta bu shi da yu 10:06, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A bit of decorum, please! Adam 10:19, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Might want to add something about his apparent suicide attempt. I would do it myself, but I can't because the page is protected. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 22:41, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Help requested to get to stub status for every Sydney suburb

Folks, I'm making a big push to get to stub status (with a mapping info), or better, for every single Sydney suburb. I need some help to do this though - details are here. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 08:55, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Darryl White

I wrote this article recently and think it's pretty good. I'm interested in others' comments, so I've sent it to peer review. Note that I've deliberately not broken it up into sections as I feel it would disrupt the flow of the article, but see what you think. --The Brain of Morbius 00:33, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Aussie rules team template

I've just created Template:Aussie rules team to provide consistent formatting between various notable teams (such as Indigenous Team of the Century) listed in WP.--The Brain of Morbius 12:36, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image request

Does anyone have a photo of or easy access to some native Australian crustaceans, marron, yabbies, red claw, crabs etc to take a photo? Or an exotic underwater pic from the Great Barrier reef showing other marine invertebrates? I need a pic for Fauna of Australia. Thanks in advance. --nixie 07:09, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I offer one small crab but can't tell you much more than we exchanged looks at Batemans Bay, New South Wales. Regards--AYArktos 10:38, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'll see if I can find out what type fo crab it is.--nixie 11:38, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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