User talk:Badagnani

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Hello, Badagnani, Welcome to Wikipedia!

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‡ Jarlaxle 09:17, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Hi! I seem to remember talking to you before about extremely short articles. If so, welcome back. The entry over at Tristan Murail will surely be deleted immediately if you don't add more to it beyond the opening sentence. Can you research yur subject a bit closer, add some more info and, if necessary, hang a stub notice at the bottom? Just type{{stub}} and you're set. Best, Lucky 6.9 8 July 2005 20:18 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks--you're very quick. If you'd wait more than 22 seconds after the first version of the article goes up ;-) you'll see that it becomes more of a real article over the succeeding minutes. I'm getting better at this. All the best to you and your own articles.

UNYAZI 2005

Thanks, I didn't know about this. Zim Ngqawana and Carlo Mombeli are local musicians I like to see whenever I get the chance -- and there's much else that sounds interesting. I live close to Wits, so I will definitely try to attend. Ferdinand Pienaar 21:37, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bari sax

Great edits on the baritone saxophone article! Those were all areas that I felt were awkward, so thanks for your good eye. Badagnani 02:45, 17 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to you for thoroughly unstubbifying the article. ¦ Reisio 02:51, 2005 July 17 (UTC)

My nick's actually an inversion of the last half of my mother's maiden name, Courvoisier, which is Swiss. An uncle of mine uses the nick Courvo, so I decided to basically use the reverse. Now you've got me curious, though - what makes you think it's Finnish? ¦ Reisio 04:41, 2005 July 30 (UTC)

Interesting. :) ¦ Reisio 04:47, 2005 July 30 (UTC)

Signing edits

As a courtesy for other editors on Wikipedia, please sign your talk page and user talk page posts. By adding four tildes (~) at the end of your comments, your user name or IP address and the date will be automatically added. -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 08:28, 21 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the recommendation about signatures; I was worried however that the vandal 222.153.153.88 (who I am trying to clean up after right now) would retaliate by making bad edits to my own page. What to do in this situation? (Unsigned comment by Badagnani)

Well, I recommend not worrying about it; if they vandalize your page it will be quickly reverted, by you or another user. I commonly deal with vandalism, and have only had my page vandalized twice. Also, you forgot to sign your edit on my user page. ;) -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 08:37, 21 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You may also want to read Wikipedia:Dealing with vandalism -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 08:42, 21 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dot Project maps

Hi,

Sorry I didn't reply sooner, but I set your question aside, and then, of course, I forgot about it.

The dot maps are made using Paint Shop Pro 8. I start by datamining the Census Bureau's databases and TIGER mapping facility, Wikipedia, and anybody else, usually the target state's mapping agency, for all the raw data I need. I put together a rather nicely automated Excel spreadsheet that has the municipalities for each county in the target state, including latitute and longitude. The spreadsheet also "calculates" the various strings needed for each Wikipedia article (like "Image:MNMap-doton-Winnebago.png|right|Location of Winnebago, Minnesota" and "MNMap-doton-Winnebago", so that part is just cut and paste. The other element is to take some x,y points from each state's image that I can reference to a longitude and latitude and then do a linear regression to create map coordinates, again calculated by Excel. For instance, given Winnebago's longitude and latitude, its dot should be centered at (104,283) on the image.

I place the dots manually using Paint Shop Pro (never figured out the Python code I'd need to automate that part) and most important, I compare the location I put the point with its location on a county map for each county. This is necessary because of non-linearities in the process, and other minor issues that can move a point a few pixels away from its real map position.

I'm very slowly finishing Minnesota - the other states I've done have gone much faster, but since April, I've had to spend more time in the real world. Still, I'm gonna see it through. Thanks for your question. Catbar (Brian Rock) 21:46, 25 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It could be harder, but it does take some time and effort. I tend to think of it like a crossword or jigsaw puzzle, but with some permanent benefit - a Wikipedia Dot Project map.

I think the tech to automate it fully is around now, or is coming available. I see it being used to replace these maps with some more spiffy ones. Some of the base maps are a bit fuzzy.

My wife is going to school in Kent right now - we were there yesterday. She's there four times a week, and I get over once in awhile to eat at Ray's Place with her. I like Kent - it's a nice place. Take care. Catbar (Brian Rock) 02:23, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Léonin

Thanks! That's the best laugh I've had today ... never thought anyone looked at that page. Happy editing! Antandrus (talk) 02:36, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, I like the early and the late (and the middle too, but there's other people who work on that stuff) ... thanks for the kind words, and you've racked up quite a list of new articles yourself in just a month here! I hope you stick around for a while! Take care, Antandrus (talk) 05:13, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Petr Kotík diacritics

Feel free to change it. His birth name has diacritics. It is very frequent that emigrants drop it (or change name completely), very few use them to show their old ties. I don't know Kotík details. This article and several others about Czech people was created by someone who had no access to diacritics - I modified all of these.

If you have access to Kotík, you may ask him to check the facts in the article, whether it is really about him ;-) Pavel Vozenilek 16:51, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for such detailed facts verification. I live in village Chvojenec, north-east Bohemia. Pavel Vozenilek 17:03, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You may ask some admin to delete the Petr Kotik (w/o diacritics) and then move the Petr Kotík back. This should preserve history. AFAIK there no easier way to do it (copying text loses all history). Pavel Vozenilek 19:19, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Miroslav Vitous: I changed it to the pattern used for Kotik. I am doing cleanup of various Czechs and Vitous got among them. Reasons for not using "Vitoush" form: this would likely require some complicated bureacratic procedure, the original name is also brand (no one notices missing diacritics).

It is much easier for someone coming to the USA to keep the name intact (perhaps removing diacritics) and bend pronunciation. Pavel Vozenilek 21:29, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

One more reason: the Czech language actually doesn't need any diacritics, the proper pronunciation is almost always deduced without any ambiguity, naturaly to native speaker (Masa gets pronounced as Máša while Masha is a foreign word never to used by Czechs). Redundance of diacritics was "discovered" via Internet and SMS messaging. Pavel Vozenilek 21:45, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Btw, Ladislav Kubik has diacritics too: Kubík. [1]. Pavel Vozenilek 23:17, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe, my name is properly written as Pavel Voženílek though I am lazy to rename it now, when it is feasible in WikiMedia 1.5. Pavel Vozenilek 23:35, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks...

...for correcting my correction for P.D.Q. Bach. I'm really not a big contributor to the 'pedia yet, so I still have a bit of trouble keeping track of a lot of the formatting conventions.

Doug A Scott 19:09, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Duh. Earlier, I meant, of course, my correction of Peter Schickele. Regarding your remarks on him, to be honest, I'm not terribly familiar with his more serious works, although I do know of them. I'm really a big fan of his satirical stuff... even if I don't always get the joke ;-) I'm seriously considering creating some pages for each of the PDQ albums.

Doug A Scott 19:20, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

List of saxophonists

I've added columns for sopranino, bass, contrabass, & subcontrabass as per discussion. Just FYI in case the new amount of |'s wig you out. :) ¦ Reisio 04:30, 2005 July 30 (UTC)

Electric guitar

Sorry, I reverted to the wrong version! Thanks for catching that. Mr./Ms. 69.etc. isn't the one you reverted to, though, as s/he is one of the "clever" vandals. Very nice user page, by the way. Badagnani 06:35, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No problem; it seems obvious that you just was a bit quick on the trigger. But you should consider the possibility that 66.238.188.67 was just a well-meaning user; there is no evidence to the contrary. Thue | talk 07:39, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sax family photo

Thanks for the reformatting. I'll check your code and see how you did it. Should the photo credit also appear in the caption on the main page or is it proper to only list it in the page you get when you click on the photo? Badagnani 20:48, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Now I notice the photo in the saxophone article is back to the original uncropped photo from Jay Easton's site, with poor contrast. I did spend some time adjusting it so that it would work better in the article. Is the reason you changed it back because you objected to the cropping and contrast adjustment? Badagnani 21:03, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think credit in the info page is enough. I swapped it for the original large version just so the large version would be available (it's resized for the article).

I hadn't realized you'd cropped it...doesn't really bother me, but neither would recropping as long as it's noted. I was about to make the contrast match, but then I remembered that images are oddly darker and less contrasted here on my Linux box than on most people's computers. I've no objection to upping the brightness/contrast on the big one - I'll even do it if you like.

Now, do you think you could ask Jay to release it under a free license? You see, at the moment it's by permission, and as you'll see on the information page, Wikipedia will soon be removing all such images from its content [2]. ¦ Reisio 21:09, 2005 August 6 (UTC)

Redid the levels as you said. It does look nicer. :) I'll get you the licensing info in a minute. ¦ Reisio 21:26, 2005 August 6 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags#Free_licenses - these "Free licenses" are basically the acceptable ones (unless he wants to just release it into the public domain, of course). Template:CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat is probably about as close to "used with permission" as we can get and still have it be something that won't end up deleted. I would suggest that one or Template:CopyrightedFreeUse. ¦ Reisio 21:39, 2005 August 6 (UTC)

Also, you might get his opinion on the change of levels/brightness/contrast and cropping it to just him and the saxophones. ¦ Reisio 21:41, 2005 August 6 (UTC)

OK, just asked him all. I assume that his emailed response stating which license he prefers will be sufficient? Badagnani 21:51, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, as far as I know. I think Wikipedia really operates more along the lines of "We trust what the users who upload images label their licensing as...unless evidence to the contrary is brought forward.". So as long as you and Jay are square and the image is watched (as of course it will be) so that its licensing isn't abused, everything should be peachy. ¦ Reisio 21:56, 2005 August 6 (UTC)

OK, just asked him all. I assume that his emailed response stating which license he prefers will be sufficient? Badagnani 21:51, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Just got the licensing permission from Jay Easton. Can you take it from here and add the proper license (with his stipulations)? Badagnani 23:55, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I can - what are the stipulations? ¦ Reisio 00:11, 2005 August 7 (UTC)

Okay - that should all be sorted now: Image:JayCEastonSaxFamily.jpg. Good work. :) ¦ Reisio 02:46, 2005 August 7 (UTC)

Leoš Janáček location

I'd reverted the edit. The country he died was then called Czechoslovakia. IMHO it is the best to avoid country name at all as the official name had changed dozen of times during last 150 years. The Moravia itself was not country, rather large administrative unit.

It is sometimes complicated to fit Czech related items into existing structure of Wikipedia, really. Pavel Vozenilek 15:27, 7 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bass oboe

Sorry it's taken me so long to reply, I usually only log in to make edits.

I've only played the regular oboe. The bass oboe is something I've read about but never actually even seen in person. I will reread the Grove article about it and then try to clarify what I wrote earlier. Del arte 23:27, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Arlington selectmen

I googled for their names and got nothing but genealogy sites. :) Furthermore, that IP had had two edits, and the other was a vandalism, so I didn't have high hopes. And yeah, I dunno if they are really needed to be included. :) --Golbez 19:06, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Cindy Sheehan

Hi. I understand why you deleted my insertion about the gun guy getting money from a network, since it isn't in the link (or the one you added, either), but I got the info from an ABC news TV report. I just can't find it on any online source. Zoe 06:45, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

I think it is important that the criticism section describe all the criticism from Drunge/O'Reily, their inability to keep to the same story three days in a row is itself interesting, as is the attempt by the WH to remain unconnected to it. In a couple of weeks the story is quite likely to be the criticism itself. --Gorgonzilla 15:43, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the article is coming along nicely. Thank you for your good writing and editing. Americanus 15:54, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Great editing! --70.19.7.50 06:51, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding adding the Ogg Vorbis DN! audio links to the Cindy Sheehan page: The audio is only in non-free formats, namely RealAudio and MP3. The links to the Ogg Vorbis files are not linked to from DN!'s transcript pages despite that free formats are available on archive.org as well. I was under the impression that Wikipedia cared about Ogg Vorbis audio more than other formats, hence the links to the Ogg Vorbis formats would be welcome. J.B. Nicholson-Owens 23:38, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Badagnani, you wrote... Amazing editing on the Sheehan article. Re: Bush's decision to leave, make sure you make a distinction (doesn't exist with your newest edit) between Bush's *decision* to leave Crawford and his *leaving* Crawford.

My intention in that edit was to capture two things 1) Cindy Sheehan had planned to leave Camp Casey on August 25. Her leaving Crawford was actually before her planned date by a few hours. Her leaving had little to do with Bush leaving, it was nearly according to plan. 2) Bush decided to leave his vacation, but actually dragged his heels and went to Washington. He did not even stop in Louisiana to make a supporting visit and speak. It's almost as if the man totally lacks compassion. I will add the time he actually left. Thanks for reminding me.

Also note that he originally planned a five week vacation. If he left nearly a week and a half early, it might focus on it. Notice how the media conveniently changed it to a month long vacation (meaning four weeks)? Kgrr 05:49, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Badagnani, thanks for your help in the edits. YES!! It definitely looks like they cooked the books with the five week vacation. Also, how interesting that this disaster is almost exactly four years after 9/11. I wonder if he had to be coached to leave his golfing vacation to solve this problem.

Also, it looks like Cindy Sheehan will take the next three weeks to take the bus tour all across the US. I really believe that we are about to see the end. If Bush is not very careful, he will look like a fool by continuing the war in Iraq and not sending relief efforts (the National Guard) to Louisiana in time. Maybe this is Bush's accidental exit strategy. We'll see. Kgrr 06:56, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Badagnani, bwwaaa-haha! I think Bush's address of the Boy Scout Jamboree is classic! Don't you think it would have been better if he cancelled that appearance and landed in Baton Rouge to have a face-to-face with the Governor of Louisiana?? Do you think he scheduled this visit to the Jamboree at the last minute? (afterall he cut his five week vacation short to go to Washington DC to deal with this emergency) Kgrr 07:33, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Arlington West

Thanks for your work on that article, and that excellent pic from Santa Monica! This coming Sunday if I get a chance I'll take a picture of the one in Santa Barbara. Happy editing, Antandrus (talk) 16:36, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Is it official Wikipolicy that Moveon.org can be only objectively described as "progressive" but not "far left"? And besides what is the practical difference between the two?

Thanks, Www.jpfo.org

#

You wrote:

Perhaps you have forgotten, but your actual words were not "far left" but "read - fundamentalist left wing." You know and I know that your edit was made with blatant POV, and as such not appropriate to WP. General policy is to use the term individuals prefer to describe themselves. The summary on the WP page for "Free Republic" begins: "Free Republic is an American Internet forum and activist site for conservatives." Would I, or any other responsible wikipedian, add to this: "read - fundamentalist right wing"? Absolutely not. This is an encyclopedia, not a blog. Badagnani 07:05, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Fair enough, and though I have some reservation, I won't start up with a freedom fighter. (or anyone for that matter) For example, David Duke refuses the label 'racist' and many communists would prefer to be called humanists etc etc. So again - objectivity doesn't exist. For example, compared to me even Pat Buchanan and Michael Savage aren't right-wing. (not enough, anyway) but I guess the guy with access to the ban button has the last say in all matters, and here as in most places, we need not say what side on the social spectrum they are. Www.jpfo.org

#2

You know what, instaed of this bullshit, since you like music, why not elarge the Festetics string quartet article, it seems you have a lot of time on your hands. Are you a college student?

AW

Thanks! Took about 20 pics ... then signed up as a volunteer next Sunday ... Good work also on the CS article, btw. Happy editing! Antandrus (talk) 19:40, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Cindy Sheehan Anonymous Vandal

Boy, I hope your comment "you've won, etc." sends this vandal away. If you know the best way to alert the Sysops about his daily nonsense, please let me know. Great editing, btw.

Noticed comments about "vandalism" at the Cindy Sheehan article, but there's no vandalism just disagreement. Please use this label sparingly. Toshiba 22:42, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Violator sounds worse than vandal I suppose. Keep smiling :-) Toshiba 22:51, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that it's real hard to do much about these anonymous vandals, especially when they use multiple IPs. We can't block anon IPs for more than 24 hours except under highly unusual situations. --jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 23:53, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Vietnamese for Neem

Hi Badagnani - saw your request about this; my tip for finding out things like this is to use google advanced search, put the scientific name in the search box, and limit the search to websites of the country desired (in this case, .vn); this came up with Sầu đâu - MPF 08:37, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! For searching by country, in google advanced, go to the line Domain [Only] return results from the site or domain and enter the country code in the box. If you don't know the country internet code (I didn't for Vietnam!), it is in the wiki infobox for every country - to get it, I just went to Vietnam to look it up :-) - MPF 08:49, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the positive feedback

It's always nice to get a pat on the back. Oh, gosh, gee whiz! Sfdan 07:11, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Correction

Yeah, I had your name in my edit search button and it got stuck as a caption, I changed it within about two minues when I realized it. It was not about YOU!!.Thanks.

Qin

Well, I'm from the UK! Never been to China and don't think I'll be going anytime soon since I'm stuck in here. I'm a member of the London Youlan Qin Society, plus NAGA. I've bought my qin from Wang Fei, but have grown out of it now, so I'm saving up for a new one.

P.S. I run a Chinese Music forum: http://starvoid.proboards30.com/index It's only recently open, but pop round if you want.

CCC

Tofu galore

Thanks for helping with the tofu article. Writing at this time at night really burns your head out. And always remember...If they fry tofu they will come... Cheers ;) --Sjschen 06:30, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The fried tofu thing? Naw, that's just me needing sleep and not wanting to leave the space blank. Gotta sleep, but by all means go crazy with the article, and get your share of the protein filled goodnees. Hopefully people won't be to ticked off with the reorg and stuff. Lates. --Sjschen 06:37, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the preserved tofu with whole soybeans and rice is what I was trying to indicate with "...paste made of rice and soybeans." I just made the changes to the article to better communicate this. I am also certain that with your continued work on the tofu article it will eventually become a featured article. Oh, and as usual, thanks for cleaning-up my shoddy writing ;) --Sjschen 22:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Diacritics

Nice work on the Folk musicians site. It looks like you're "fixing" many diacritics that were already in place, by inserting their codes rather than the actual diacritic characters. This means that you see the codes rather than the actual characters while editing, which makes it a bit more difficult when editing. One of WP's continuing improvements is that, recently, things were changed so that the characters can be added via the panel below the edit window rather than keying in the codes. Badagnani 22:33, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Yes, it's quite laborious. I tried cutting & pasting from the panel when I first tried editing wiki pages a few months ago and it didn't work. I use a Mac, so perhaps that's why... SiGarb 23:01, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

When you edit, can you see a selection of about 100 diacritic characters, in blue, preceded by the text "Insert"? This is directly below the large rectangular gray buttons that say "Save page," "Show preview," and "Show changes." If you click to insert these characters, then they show up as that character instead of codes in the edited version as well as the text of the article itself. That seems to be the way to go since this feature was introduced.

BTW I had no idea there were so many artists in Northumberland (or is it Northumbria?). I've got to check this music out. There was a compilation released in the States some time ago called "Northumberland Rant." Badagnani 23:38, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried both clicking and cutting-and-pasting from the "Insert:" pane, but neither works for me! The underline appears but nothing happens in the Editing window. I suspect it's a Mac thing.

Cutting-and-pasting gives the character on first use, but then when I "Show preview" (or sometimes much later!) a black diamond with a question mark appears instead of the character. It doesn't always happen straight away, for instance, I'd been working on the "List of folk musicians" for a while before the previous editor's accents all disappeared and were replaced with question marks (which has made it difficult for me to track down some of the names I didn't know - I Googled various versions of the name until something appropriate came up! There are still a couple I can't find).

Northumberland is the county, Northumbria is a historical region (at one time, everywhere between the River Humber and the Scottish border!) but Northumbrian music has a definite identity and is widely played in County Durham, so it doesn't just belong to Northumberland. It's a very vibrant tradition and still very much alive, with a lot of excellent new players coming through. Folkworks (http://www.thesagegateshead.org/folkworks/index.aspx) has had a lot to do with the resurgence of interest, running summer schools and workshops with genuine traditional musicians as tutors, as well as notable figures from the revival scene. FARNE will give you a good historical perspective & much more besides! (http://www.asaplive.com/farne/home.cfm). SiGarbS

Energy crisis 2005

I hope things have been going well on the Sheehan article. Looks like you're keeping an eye on it. :-) I'm trying to keep improving the Energy crisis 2005 page, but there is a deletionist who would combine it with "oil price increases", a significantly different event. I was wondering if you would be willing to take a look at the page, and maybe add a comment to the talk section. Thanks! Americanus 22:07, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Mathrock

s/o overwrote the Template:RockBox with one on Math rock. I reverted the RockBox template and saved the new template as Template:Mathrock Paul foord 13:02, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Juju vs. jùjú

Hi, Badagnani. I've expressed some reservation here about your recent move of the article Juju music to Jùjú music. Would you mind popping in and looking it over? Thanks! BrianSmithson 20:03, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Lion

Thanks for starting the article on Lion - one of the things that kept me of starting it once before was the question of his surname. As for the birth certificate - it probably exists (if you are willing to go to Trinidad, stand in line for an hour, pay a small fee, and then come back and stand in line week later) - but I suspect that it may not be of much help - often births were registered without a name (my father's birth certificate just says "legitimate boy"). Guettarda 21:44, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Caura is one of the valleys on the Northern Range - northern part of the island, pretty much right in the centre. To tell you the truth, I have never heard of Aroquita, but there could easily be a place by that name in the hills above Caura. Unlikely that it would be Arouca - that's down in the lowlands. Of course, he could have made it up, to seem like he came from somewhere more remote...he cultivated a "Spanish" mystique about him, it may have been true, but it was also part of the "legend".

I don't know all that much factually beyond what you have. I read some of his book, which probably warrants mention, I know some of his music, and I have seen many interviews with him on TV - he was "the" historian of calypso, the person that the tv stations went to for a sound bite or an interview. I'll ask my brother-in-law about Aroquita - he knows the hills above Caura fairly well (far better than I do). Guettarda 22:25, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

hi, and hungary

Hey, just wanted to say hi since I've seen you all over my watchlist recently. Good work! I've been working on music of Nigeria for awhile now, and I think it could be ready if not for the lack of freely-licensed photos. If you have any ideas on that front, please let me know. Also, I've put music of Hungary on peer review, but it hasn't got any comments yet, so if you have anything to say, I'd appreciate suggestions -- that one's got photos, but no sound clips yet (I'm working on that, help there would be appreciated too). Tuf-Kat 04:53, September 8, 2005 (UTC)