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- A request for adminship is open for discussion.
- Should a blackout be organized in protest of the Wikimedia Foundation's actions?
- Open letter regarding the Wikimedia Foundation's potential disclosure of editors' personal information.
- Should all administrators seeking resysop have made an administrative act within the previous five years?
- Extended-confirmed pending changes and preemptive protection in contentious topics
- Are portals encyclopedic, and are they appropriate redirect targets?
- Should recall petitions be limited to signatures only?
- Should the length of recall petitions be shortened?
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The result of the debate was delete. - Mgm|(talk) 11:23, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Just a bad article overall; there's noting of value here, and it seems to be simply a batch of red links. --Apostrophe 00:20, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete... yeah. --Oppolo 00:32, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete 311 google, very nn, horrible article that gives me no idea what The Morrison Doom Patrol even is. -GregAsche (talk) 01:02, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Doom Patrol will tell you. There's a whole section on the subject there. It appears that 82.99.146.34 (talk · contribs) was trying to create a breakout article. Uncle G 01:22:54, 2005-09-10 (UTC)
- Delete as above G Clark 01:08, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Useless. Can't tell if it's notable. It's been here for a couple of weeks with nothing being added. ♠ DanMS 01:13, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Apostrophe and DanMS. --IByte 01:37, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Jaxl | talk 02:07, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I've nothing against comic book-related articles, but there's nothing here. I can't even suggest merging with Doom Patrol as there's no content. 23skidoo 02:42, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, total lack of useful content. - Mgm|(talk) 11:03, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete per Mgm.
- Delete pointless. Vizjim 09:46, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete -- Joolz 02:06, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Non notable mall Dismas 01:04, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, no vote. The article was posted only today. We might give the author a week or two to see if he fills it out and wikifies it. If not, delete. ♠ DanMS 01:18, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I don't think all malls are notable, and this is not, at least per terms of the article, one of the notable ones (in a cultural, architectural, or historical sense). MCB 01:44, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: If there are unique, trend-setting, or sui generis elements to this mall, they're not stated in the article. If the mall is dominant in more than a town setting, it is also not stated. A mall of 170 stores is mid-sized, and the biography of the mall as given is pretty standard. Not properly encyclopedic content, then. Geogre 05:42, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete unless expanded. Andrew pmk | Talk 18:04, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
No vote yetDelete - I will leave a note on the talk page of the author and see if s/he can expand on this to make it notable. Nandesuka 01:04, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]- Article has not been improved, changing my opinion to delete. Nandesuka 16:40, 17 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete per MCB and Geogre, no indication of the slightest notability has been added a couple days after nomination. Barno 20:07, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Grue 13:13, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
This article is simple pasted from a My Chemical Romance site and is not only useless, but could be construed as offensive. Makenji-san 01:07, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Copyright problems is the place for dealing with articles copied & pasted from copyrighted web sites, not AFD. Copyvio. Uncle G 01:35:01, 2005-09-10 (UTC)
- There's a rewrite article that is copyright violation free, by the way. Uncle G 10:13:02, 2005-09-10 (UTC)
- Delete as copyvio. Capitalistroadster 04:09, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete copyvio, replace with rewrite. - Mgm|(talk) 11:05, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete as resume and self-promotion of a non notable individual. -- Mgm|(talk) 20:11, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Self promotion/vanity... seems to be just his resume'. Dismas 01:16, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- delete cut'n'paste resumés. — brighterorange (talk) 01:40, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per above. Jaxl | talk 02:07, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete same as above. ErikNY 03:03, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. If we had an article on Rhett Davies we could have turned it into a redirect, since I have heard him misnamed in this way. Grutness...wha? 04:24, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete resumes. - Mgm|(talk) 11:08, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete for all the above reasons. -- DS1953 06:14, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as incoherent nonsense passing as resume of non-notable personage ---CH (talk) 01:57, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete -- Joolz 23:28, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Not really notable. 148.78.243.50 01:36, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Provisional keep pending evidence of non-notability. Kappa 02:17, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This article lacks evidence of notability, which is the only possible evidence of non-notability. Also, the term "Thermicair" pushes it into the category of spam. --A D Monroe III 03:06, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I think it's meant to be "thermic air". Kappa 12:55, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Even then, proper English would be "thermal", not "thermic", which stil means nothing more than "warm". "Thermicair" and "Thermic air" are marketing slogans. This article is either spam or a copy of spam. --A D Monroe III 15:12, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I think it's meant to be "thermic air". Kappa 12:55, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Illiterate and self-evident. A boot dryer, not a bootdryer, and a boot dryer is a device to, um, dry boots. Otherwise known as a modified heater. Geogre 05:43, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, boot dryers probably deserve an article, but this is a self-evident dicdef. I'd be happy to reconsider if someone rewrites into a decent stub that does more than state the obvious. - Mgm|(talk) 11:10, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. The burden of proof is on the article's author to supply references that back up their claims. Will change my mind under similar circumstances as Mgm. Fernando Rizo T/C 18:27, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as self-evident obviosity. Thereare notenough spaces in thearticle, either, but Isuppose it couldbe re written. -Splash 21:20, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per ADM3 and others. What the heck is "evidence of non-notability", Kappa? Barno 20:10, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- E.g. a failed google test. Kappa 20:21, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Grue 13:14, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
NN Dismas 01:38, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. No claim to notability except being a relative to someone barely notable. That, by itself, does not make one notable. --A D Monroe III 03:10, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Not a proper subject of biography in an encyclopedia, and the article is not a biography. Were her husband very famous in anglophone nations, a redirect to him would take the place of this article. As it is, just delete. Geogre 05:45, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- India is an Anglophone nation given that English is an official language of India. Given that our Indian English states that approximately 11% of the Indian population spoke English as at 1991 with numbers growing since then, there are well over 100 million English speakers in India which is approximately twice as many as in England. Bollywood films are popular in other nations notably England. Having said that, this article does not establish notability for Ms Khan as opposed to her husband, I vote to Redirect to Hrithik Roshan unless Ms Khan has some record of achievement in her own right. Capitalistroadster 07:51, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect, article as is is substub, doesn't establish any notability. - Mgm|(talk) 11:13, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete – at least not notable now. --Bhadani 17:09, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I dislike retaining redirects for nns; it's like saying "you can have an article if you're notable, you can get deleted if you're non-notable, but if you move in the right circles, you can have a redirect". -Splash 21:18, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete patently nn. ---CH (talk) 07:59, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect as her husband is very famous in one of the world's largest Anglophone nations. Though I'm tempted to add that if Victoria Beckham can get her own article, any wife should... Vizjim 09:53, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Victoria Beckham? I'll be the first to say that I'm not a fan of the Spice Girls but she has a bit more notability than just for being David Beckham's wife. Dismas 10:48, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Depends on how notable you feel "Well-Known Spice Girls Video Background Dancers", "Great Vocoder Users" and "Professionally Thin People" are... ;) Vizjim 14:12, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak redirect per Capitalistroadster, mainly because she's mentioned in her husband's article. But I tend to agree with Splash's criticism of the system. Barno 20:14, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Agree. — flamingspinach | (talk) 18:00, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete -- Joolz 23:31, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
A gaming clan, and borderline nonsense. —Cryptic (talk) 02:55, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. nn clanity. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 03:07, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete non notable G Clark 03:10, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. No claim to notability, and definite nonsense ("bleach is cool", "origin: 1st after random chemical reactions" and "hes hella smart") --A D Monroe III 03:17, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. unverifiable. --Apyule 06:16, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete any and all gaming clan that hasn't won any major tournaments covered by the media. - Mgm|(talk) 11:15, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete gaming clan, near-nonsense. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:40, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Doesn't look like an article. — Stevey7788 (talk) 18:50, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. and then protect from being recreated... Sasquatcht|c 04:55, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Deleted as copyvio then title redirected to Order of the Stick Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 22:01, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
non-notable person Peyna 02:57, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete. Bunchofgrapes 04:04, 10 September 2005 (UTC)OK, abstain. My excuse is that the page was so poorly written that the assertion of notability escaped me. Bunchofgrapes 21:46, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]- Either keep or redirect to his clearly notable webcomic, Order of the Stick. Meelar (talk) 04:08, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- or merge ; but just because his comic is notable, doesn't mean he necessarily is. Peyna 04:15, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. This article needs plenty of work if it is to be kept. Frankly, who cares if he likes Iron Chef? Unless this work is done, I will vote for a redirect to the webcomic. Capitalistroadster 04:19, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into Order of the Stick, which is hilarious, BTW. android79 04:40, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect. Not a fit subject for a biography in an encyclopedia, as the life and the man are not famous at this point or relevant to multiple contexts. Geogre 05:46, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge anything salvagable and NPOV into Order of the Stick and redirect. - Mgm|(talk) 11:16, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect, as per above. Fernando Rizo T/C 18:36, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Copyvio: This is a copyvio of Burlew's official bio at http://www.giantitp.com/thegiant.html . That site is down at the moment, but there's a google cache here. I'm not very familiar with the process at this point, so I haven't listed this anywhere. -- Creidieki 01:10, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete copyvio nn vanity ---CH (talk) 06:26, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete · Katefan0(scribble) 21:37, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Tagged as {{nonsense}}, but doesn't meet the WP definition of such. Doesn't seem to meet any other of the CSD either, so AfD gets to deal with it. No vote from me. -Splash 03:29, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as OR/Biblecruft. MCB 06:20, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Reserve Possibly convertable into a useful article, but possibly OR. I'll have to think about it. --Apyule 06:25, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, unless someone is going to clean it up. It's pretty terrible right now. -- Kjkolb 10:53, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete without prejudice, probably a valid topic, but mentioning where it appears in the bible only (with over half the entry being quotes) doesn't make it an article. - Mgm|(talk) 11:19, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Original research, if I understand this correctly. -- llywrch 23:15, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, nothing that isn't OR or already covered in Book of Revelation and Number of the Beast (numerology). Gazpacho 23:28, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I, Chris Nance, yeshua2000@yahoo.com, created this article.
I am new to Wikipedia and will do whatever necessary to clean this up or make it conform to Wikipedia standards. This is not original research. It is mentioned in Revelation 13. The Mark of the Beast is also mentioned there and you have allowed that entry. The Image of the Beast is different topic than the Mark of the Beast and the Number of the Beast and is a valid topic in Christian eschatology This is not covered in any other entry in Wikipedia. I would like the opportunity to finish this article. Thank you.
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The result of the debate was keep -- Joolz 23:34, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Tagged as nn-bio (CSD A7). Whilst being a prof isn't an assertion of notability, being Head of a Laboratory possibly is. Needs massive work, but that doesn't make it a speedy. No vote from me, but I found this. -Splash 03:34, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep He is a notable researcher who deserves a longer article. --Apyule 06:20, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: is there any criteria for determining the notability of college professors? I've come across quite a few that are merely average, if that (no comment on this one). Is being a college professor inherently notable? Given the number of college professors in the world, I don't think it would be possible to maintain that many articles. -- Kjkolb 11:02, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Being the head of a research department at Oxford University makes one notable. If cleanup is needed, I recommend a request being send to the cleanup taskforce or a suitable wikiproject. - Mgm|(talk) 11:22, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep stub and request expansion. He wouldn't have been where he is if he weren't notable in his field. Uppland 16:54, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Done some improvements. Alf melmac 20:01, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: someone who knows better than me should check "What links here" on the article. Alf melmac 20:07, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- These links obviously refer to one or two other persons of the same name. This article should probably be moved to Jacob Klein (chemist) eventually. Uppland 20:22, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, but author should add references to support notability claim.---CH (talk) 04:22, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Delete Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 22:03, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
There is no evidence that this company is notable. Bcrowell 03:36, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nominator. --GraemeL (talk) 11:57, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete NN - 141.154.205.120 21:54, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete -- Joolz 12:50, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Look... simple mistake. It was my first Wikipedia page and I didn't know self-promotion was illegal. Sombody else named DJ Velocity then dubbed over my name and page with their own information. Please delete this page all together, it is bad publicity to see this page when searching my name in google. It is the first page that comes up. I hope you understand
Self-published musician does not appear to meet criteria in WP:MUSIC. Page created by anon IP; same anon IP recently restored the page's original POV, ad-oriented copy. Bunchofgrapes 03:54, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per WP:music. "Aspiring" to be fulltime producer. Capitalistroadster 04:12, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, fails WP:MUSIC, uses promotional language and spams 4 additional links to his own site in the discography section. One of them is enough. (I'll delink). - Mgm|(talk) 14:08, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete WP:MUSIC comes to the rescue again. He urges patience, and then writes this article. Uh huh. -Splash 21:15, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, as per WP:MUSIC.
- Doenst matter... some ***hole just took over my page. moved in and deleted all my content to replace it with his own promotion. is that even allowed? (Unsigned comment by DJ Velocity)
- Comment: In general, you or others who care about the page would simply revert such a change as vandalism. Bunchofgrapes 20:30, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per everyone above. As stated above, if he cared, the page would have been reverted. Budgiekiller 08:11, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Delete Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 22:04, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Tagged for speedy as "advertising", but unless it's pure spam it doesn't qualify. (Plus, this doesn't read like an ad to me.) AfD gets to decide if it should stay or not. Abstain. -Splash 04:04, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The page was created only two days ago. May be someone would improve it. On the other hand, the link given is already dead. Google also doesn't seem to be much aware of Kaosu buntai itself, not to mention the game. I say delete if notability cannot be established - Greenleaf 06:31, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Download page is already dead. Not notable. --GraemeL (talk) 12:00, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Delete Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 23:19, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Here is another non notable Harvard Dorm Delete --Aranda56 04:11, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Marskell 09:52, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- delete as above --TimPope 10:19, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nominator. --GraemeL (talk) 12:01, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge all dormitory pages together. Andrew pmk | Talk 18:07, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with the other dorm that was here a few days back into Harvard Dorms/whatever is most correct, per Andrew pmk. Eric the Seagull roosted there. Alf melmac 20:15, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into Harvard Dormitories or other appropriate article. -- Creidieki 01:16, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Is this building individually architecturally notable? If so, merge; if not, delete.---CH (talk) 05:09, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Delete Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 22:06, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Tagged as patent nonsense but it isn't, especially as it's an excerpt from a book-thing (e.g. [1]). This might make it a copyvio, but that excerpt seems to be posted at least several times online, so I didn't copyvio it. If someone wants to, that's fine. Otherwise, no vote from me. -Splash 04:13, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Delete No context, no assertion of notability, possible copyvio. Dlyons493 08:48, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Definitely a copyvio. An excerpt of a book which is not used to support a review or scholarly work definitely does not fall under fair use. Andrew pmk | Talk 18:12, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was keep -- Joolz 23:39, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Tagged as patent nonsense but I can just about extract meaning so it isn't. I can't work out for myself if this should stay or go, so it comes here instead. -Splash 04:18, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, like C major. To whoever tagged that for speedy, ignorance is no excuse for an encylopedia editor. Kappa 05:17, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong keep. Is my music bias showing? Hell, you could've clicked on Raga to find out what Dheerasankarabharanam was. RasputinAXP talk * contribs 05:20, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as above. By the way, how do you actually say it? --Apyule 06:33, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep you say it very carefully. I prefer A flat - more homely. Alf melmac 20:20, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep Tintin 01:53, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep there are many such stub articles on Indian music theory. Maybe they should all be together, but certainly not deleted. —Wahoofive (talk) 03:34, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete -- Joolz 23:46, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Just a collection of links to pages on Wiltshire's larger towns. Not an article, and all of these are linked (logically) from the Wiltshire article anyway. Grutness...wha? 04:21, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete this not-an-article. It doesn't even have a sentence! It really is nothing but a list, and a list solely of links at that. Which makes it in violation of WP:NOT Sec. 1.5.2, which explicitly bans this sort of non-article. Even if content did show up in this, it's still redundant to the Wiltshire article, which is closer to The Perfect Article than a list could ever be, and thus would still need to be deleted in favor of the better article. The Literate Engineer 04:58, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per WP:NOT which explicitly permits this kind of list. Kappa 05:14, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Explicitly permits this kind of list? Would that be in the part I cited, which states "Wikipedia articles are not Mere collections of internal links, except for disambiguation pages when an article title is ambiguous, and for structured lists to assist with the organisation of articles," which exception does not apply here? Or are you suggesting that this slip in under the "reference tables and tabular information for quick reference" exception in 1.7.2, about Lists or repositories of loosely associated topics? I disagree with the application of that exception as well, as I feel there's a degree of utility required to qualify as a reference table (for instance, an SI/Imperial conversion table) that this doesn't have. And as this is a loose association of Wiltshire locations, I'd say it qualifies as a 1.7.2 violation. The Literate Engineer 05:34, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- "structured lists to assist with the organisation of articles" Kappa 06:05, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Exactly how does this list of towns that appear as destinations on road signs help organize articles? Pilatus 16:05, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- "structured lists to assist with the organisation of articles" Kappa 06:05, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Explicitly permits this kind of list? Would that be in the part I cited, which states "Wikipedia articles are not Mere collections of internal links, except for disambiguation pages when an article title is ambiguous, and for structured lists to assist with the organisation of articles," which exception does not apply here? Or are you suggesting that this slip in under the "reference tables and tabular information for quick reference" exception in 1.7.2, about Lists or repositories of loosely associated topics? I disagree with the application of that exception as well, as I feel there's a degree of utility required to qualify as a reference table (for instance, an SI/Imperial conversion table) that this doesn't have. And as this is a loose association of Wiltshire locations, I'd say it qualifies as a 1.7.2 violation. The Literate Engineer 05:34, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, not an encyclopedic article. And what the heck does "primary route destinations" mean? Zoe 05:43, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- The British Roads FAQ has a paragraph on that. Pilatus 15:01, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I stubbed it, not knowing what to do with it, not having the guts to go for AFD. Now that someone has, though, I support it. Thank you for being bold when I wasn't. Paul 06:00, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, WP:NOT censored for the protection of minors.Sorry, I misinterpreted WP:NOT. Sdedeo 07:34, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]- Delete The much more useful List of Primary Route Destinations in the United Kingdom links to this page but is itself being discussed for merging. If that page is merged, then this page is most properly deleted. Even if that page survives, while I take Kappa's point on "structured lists to assist with the organisation of articles", I don't see that this context-free page adds useful structuration potential. Note also that it's one of 47 lists which should presumably be treated similarly to it.Dlyons493 08:57, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Very useful list. --Tony SidawayTalk 09:24, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- delete useless list --TimPope 10:20, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Original source material (that's what this is) doesn't belong here. Pilatus 13:30, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete already covered in Wiltshire which actually provides context. No need to break out. If you need to find something about Wiltshire, in my opinion the article about the area is the first place to look for it.) - Mgm|(talk) 14:17, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Duplicated by Category:Towns in Wiltshire.
- Delete - and there are about 50 of these centered around List of Primary Route Destinations in the United Kingdom, all of which should be similarly deleted. ESkog 18:32, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. As Mgm said, this seems to duplicate the information found here. If kept, needs to be moved to a less Byzantine and properly capitalized name. Fernando Rizo T/C 18:48, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This isn't an article: it's a contextless list of links to other articles. -Splash 21:13, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I agree with Splash. (Was that rude?) Nandesuka 01:10, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information. Kappa, where exaclty do you think this policy "explicitly permits" pages which lists five place names, with no context or commentary?---CH (talk) 23:35, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, seeing no reason to believe that this list "assists in the organisation of" anything at all. Barno 20:20, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Transwiki Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 23:21, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Tagged for speedy as "Wikipedia is not a video game strategy guide. Non-strategic information already exists in the article on The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening.", only that isn't a speedy criterion. Since it was tagged, I brought it here. No notvote from me. -Splash 04:27, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I'm the one who wanted it speedy deleted. Seems like a waste of time to AfD it, but very well. Hopefully this is one of the things to be addressed in the deletion reform discussion I heard about, but for now the existing policy prevails. I repeat: Wikipedia is not a video game strategy guide. I realize that's not part of the official Wikipedia is not policy, but I'm not the first person to say it, and I doubt I'll be the last. In fact, I think I'll go and suggest the addition of that right now. Non-strategic information on these bosses already exists in the article on The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening, so there's no need to merge it. -- WikidSmaht (talk) 04:50, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Last time I checked, Wikipedia gives out information about different areas of things. It seems to me that Link's Awakening bosses is a thing, and I have given information about it. Please don't delete this article. 24.21.191.65 06:26, 10 September 2005 (UTC) [Note from WikidSmaht: This is DiddyKong1234, I think he forgot to log in.][reply]
- Wikipedia is meant to be informative, yes. But Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Tutorials, guides, and other forms of instruction should be collected into Wikibooks. Most of the information in the article is about how to fight and defeat the bosses, written in the imperative tense. The rest can be, and essentially is, covered in the Link's Awakening article, in a section you inspired me to create with an older article of yours. Look at the edit history to see my example of what the article would be like without the strategy part. Also, some of the few other things in the article as it is are incorrect. For example, none of the dungeons in this game are referred to as temples. And all the bosses are Nightmares, according to the story. I do admire the images you collected or created for the article, though. If you hang on to those, I might have a use for them later. -- WikidSmaht (talk) 07:48, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep or merge with something, seems to have extra information. Needs a bit of a rewrite. Kappa 07:25, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- As I said, the information was virtually all covered in the main article for Link's Awakening, and everything important( other than strategy, is there, so I don't think there's any need to merge... WikidSmaht (talk) 07:48, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- The table at Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_video_game_strategy_guide may help this discussion. In particular, note the existence of the The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker wikibook and its relationship to the The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker encyclopaedia article. Uncle G 10:44:19, 2005-09-10 (UTC)
- Thank you, that's exactly what I was getting at. The content of the article is good( well, not all of it), but not suitable for Wikipedia.
- Transwiki the strategy guide to Wikibooks. The use of "you" in an article is never a good idea. - Mgm|(talk) 14:20, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Transwiki per Mgm. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 09:56, 2005 September 11 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete -- Joolz 02:10, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
An expat community with nearly 200 members. Home page leads to what looks like a discussion board which requires login. Article text is not very consistent. Greenleaf 04:32, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Not notable. --GraemeL (talk) 12:05, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. nn. Andrew pmk | Talk 18:20, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, websites in themselves don't really need articles. WP:ISNOT a webdirectory.-Splash 21:11, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete -- Joolz 02:14, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Tagged for speedy as "totally nn" but regrettably that doesn't apply to websites. Personally, I'd say delete nn website - it has 30 members. -Splash 04:39, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, totally nn :) Punkmorten 10:20, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Not notable. --GraemeL (talk) 12:07, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete All of 30 members! Ashibaka (tock) 16:02, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, very nn! CSD should apply to websites as well. Andrew pmk | Talk 18:20, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete -- Joolz 02:16, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
nn slang lexicon. Zoe 04:43, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- delete. Obviously nn. - Greenleaf
- Abstain. Making us vote on it is part of the joke. --Wetman 09:03, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- But keeping it wouldn't be? Zoe 19:52, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete per submitter. --GraemeL (talk) 12:08, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Not notable or encyclopedic. Delete. - Mike Rosoft 12:41, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I removed the link to it from St. Paul's School (United States). Please re-instate in the unlikely event that this fails AfD. Andrew pmk | Talk 18:25, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Abstain. This appears to be a legitmate bit of information about counter-culture in the United States. It wouldn't be found in Encyclopedia Britannica, but is that what you folks are trying to write?
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The result of the debate was Keep due to no consensus Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 22:10, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
A College Society drama; money went for a good purpose, but the drama itself doesn't seem to be notable. Participants do not either. Performed only two days. 370 Google hits. Greenleaf 04:52, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Abstain. Well-written, but notability is questionable. Andrew pmk | Talk 18:28, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was: keep (nomination withdrawn). - Mike Rosoft 12:45, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Article itself provides reason: Low budget, unclassifiable Hungarian film. Inherently nn. Delete. RasputinAXP talk * contribs 04:54, 10 September 2005 (UTC) Whoop. Sorry. Nomination withdrawn. RasputinAXP talk * contribs 06:02, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Check imdb and the official web site. It's won one or two awards, and appeared in different festivals, in various countries. It's a theatrical release, not a direct-to-video deal (although it's now out on video). By Hollywood standards, its low-budget, but I'm not sure it is actually low-budget by Hungarian standards (I honestly don't know though, as I'm not Hungarian). Anyways, at a minimum, I want to give this article some time, to improve. --rob 05:36, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep. Very well-known independent film on this year's international festival circuit, plus theatrical release in English-speaking countries (including the U.S.). And hey, I just got it on DVD from Netflix. MCB 06:37, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete -- Joolz 02:16, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Non-notable as per [2] PhilipO 05:01, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable and probably vanity. Should have been speedy. CambridgeBayWeather 05:03, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah - probably, but I erred on the side of a vote this time. Cheers. --PhilipO 05:06, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete per above. 9 google hits. -Greenleaf 05:08, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as nn-bio. MCB 06:38, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- speedy delete nn, apparent vanity, probably adspam ---CH (talk) 04:43, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was keep -- Joolz 02:18, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Even if individual songs merit their own articles, "X is a song by Y" isn't appropriate. —Cryptic (talk) 05:14, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I have expanded the article so that it is no longer a "X is a song by Y". This song was a top 5 song on the Billboard Hot 100 and one of the most popular emo songs ever. Capitalistroadster 06:55, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Great job with the rewrite. The article explains the notability of the song, on it's own. Normally I don't like including individual songs, but this article seems to have value. --rob 10:19, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep the rewrite. It establishes notability right from the first line. - Mgm|(talk) 14:21, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep — Stevey7788 (talk) 18:50, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep another fantastic job by the Capster. Alf melmac 20:26, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete -- Joolz 02:20, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Somebody's madeup game. Can't find anything to verify that this game exists. Zoe 05:18, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete As above (I originally put the speedy tag on it ;-))--PhilipO 05:20, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- I know. I decided to err on the side of caution to see if anybody in the community knows it or can find anything we missed. Zoe 05:25, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - Nonsense CambridgeBayWeather 05:27, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Hot Bom-om. The author has indicated it's something played at their high school that hasn't made it to the spotlight. Zoe 05:33, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete per both of Zoe's statements. --GraemeL (talk) 12:10, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per author's statement. Game is not notable. - Mgm|(talk) 14:25, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete I think I'll write an article for every game I played in high school too . . . - Orioneight 22:02, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete unless good verifiable evidence is provided for the remark that "the game spread to its current popularity during the nineties, and is a something of a cult subculture at many American High Schools today." Note that the article provides no references or source citations that would even testify to the existence of the game. Dpbsmith (talk) 01:46, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Keep Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 23:24, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not Billboard. Zoe 05:23, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
Speedy fair enough, feel free to speedy if you want (since I'm the only author) Ryan Norton T | @ | C 05:27, 10 September 2005 (UTC)Keep WHOA there's a review for it already... thanks Kappa Ryan Norton T | @ | C 07:00, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]- Keep, single by notable artist. Kappa 06:18, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Stubby yes. But it's a single by a notable artist and a notable producer and has enough room for expansion like other single/album articles. - Mgm|(talk) 14:24, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, notable everything. Jobe6 18:14, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
So what are the criteria? Any single by any artist? Any single by any artist which has had x number of sales? This song has just been released. Why not wait to see if it's going to go anywhere on the charts? Zoe 19:40, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- I thought any single by a notable artist was allowed (speaking of which why arn't we using the discussion page? ) Ryan Norton T | @ | C 19:47, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- This battle has been fought before, over singles generally and Ashlee singles specifically. La La (song) had a pretty vehement debate but ended up being kept by a fair margin. I don't see why the battle needs to be fought all over again every time a new single comes out. The issue ought to be settled by now. Everyking 04:05, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- So even if this song were to tank and not sell five copies, by the very fact that it's by Ashlee Simpson, it deserves an article? I'm not saying that that is what's happening, I'm just trying to determine where we draw the line. Or is there a line? Zoe 22:48, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
- The question is academic, but I think the answer is yes: if a song by such a notable artist failed so badly, that would be notable just for so completely confounding expectations. Everyking 23:13, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, so now I'm clear. We have to keep an article on every song ever recorded by every artist who meets the WP:MUSIC requirements. Zoe 04:29, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Does every deletionist have to exaggerate every statement ever made by every inclusionist? Kappa 13:03, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, so now I'm clear. We have to keep an article on every song ever recorded by every artist who meets the WP:MUSIC requirements. Zoe 04:29, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
- The question is academic, but I think the answer is yes: if a song by such a notable artist failed so badly, that would be notable just for so completely confounding expectations. Everyking 23:13, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- So even if this song were to tank and not sell five copies, by the very fact that it's by Ashlee Simpson, it deserves an article? I'm not saying that that is what's happening, I'm just trying to determine where we draw the line. Or is there a line? Zoe 22:48, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
- This battle has been fought before, over singles generally and Ashlee singles specifically. La La (song) had a pretty vehement debate but ended up being kept by a fair margin. I don't see why the battle needs to be fought all over again every time a new single comes out. The issue ought to be settled by now. Everyking 04:05, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Single by notable artist, and the article has increased in size quite a bit since it was put up for deletion. Extraordinary Machine 21:34, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and expand once we have reliable chart info. There's enough here to warrant an article. Capitalistroadster 00:32, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, of course. Everyking 04:02, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. A single is a bit like an episode of a TV show. We don't need articles on every one. Friday (talk) 19:28, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- "There is no reason why there shouldn't be a page for every Simpsons character, and even a table listing every episode, all neatly cross-linked and introduced by a shorter central page. Every episode name in the list could link to a separate page for each of those episodes, with links to reviews and trivia. Each of the 100+ poker games can have its own page with rules history, and strategy. Jimbo Wales has agreed: Hard disks are cheap". meta:Wiki_is_not_paper. Kappa 19:48, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep since there's no reason to delete it. Right? Kahlen 06:36, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep not every song by a notable musician needs its own article, rather some should be redirected to the album in question (or maybe a list of songs by XXX in some cases, especially prior to the album era). But if this one were folded into the album article, it would overbalance it. So, keep. Tuf-Kat 08:07, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Do not delete it. Instead, Make the article disputed. It is not released yet and the chart performances and variety of reviews have not yet being released. It is already on disputed so leave it there. It deserves to be there. Zoe needs to shut up. From Anonymous.
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The result of the debate was delete Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 22:14, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. —Cryptic (talk) 05:43, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Maybe Wikisource? Zoe 05:54, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- delete ne --TimPope 10:22, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Transwiki to Wikisource, but it needs some info on what year these people served. - Mgm|(talk) 14:26, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. If I'm not mistaken, the only time in US history that there's been regiments with name schemes such as this one's was the American Civil War. Even still, that's not a specific enough timeframe to be useful for Wikisource. Will absolutely change my vote if a reference can be cited and if a time period can be established. Fernando Rizo T/C 18:52, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Bratschetalk | Esperanza 17:49, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
nn road Delete --Aranda56 05:43, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- delete minor road. --TimPope 10:22, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- keep major road. Kappa 14:16, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. maybe wikitravel for stuff like this. Nateji77 14:36, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Unless someone expands this, delete Pilatus 16:50, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete unless expanded; this road starts at the very edge of downtown (at Highway 99) and goes into the suburbs. Roads in the suburbs are not notable. Andrew pmk | Talk 18:32, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Wikifying major and road doesn't make it so! -Splash 21:06, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Major road, my ass. --Calton | Talk 15:47, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, nothing but a city street.Gateman1997 18:06, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and disambiguate. Streets next to rivers in major cities are "notable". --SPUI (talk) 22:42, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was that it should be handled via the copyvio proccess -- Joolz 02:22, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
nn summer camp Delete --Aranda56 05:59, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- When you see a huge unwikified lump like this with blatantly promotional language, check google to see if it's a copyvio. Tagged and bagged. —Cryptic (talk) 06:37, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete -- Joolz 21:15, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Train the Trainer was nominated for deletion on 2005-03-08. The result of the discussion was "keep". For the prior deletion discussion, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Train the Trainer/2005-03-08.
This has been on cleanup since March, and still only contains an "X=X" type definition. I suggest transwiki'ing to Wiktionary. Grutness...wha? 06:42, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete With so little content, I see no purpose in keeping it, or using it for anything. --rob 06:59, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per rob. --Angr/tɔk tə mi 07:58, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- As I said in March, this isn't a single part of speech. It's not an idiom, either. Uncle G 10:51:54, 2005-09-10 (UTC)
- Delete self-evidentiary dicdefs and don't forget about the redirect(s). - Mgm|(talk) 14:28, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, dicdef. Andrew pmk | Talk 18:36, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, so circular it doesn't even define anything, just restates title. Trend in business might rate an article; this sure ain't it. -WCFrancis 21:49, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per rob. --Apyule 07:56, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete -- Joolz 21:17, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Admits to not meeting WP:MUSIC right in the article. Only claim to fame is founding Town Records, which was just deleted for non-notability and barely existing. (I've taken the liberty of <nowiki>ing the linkspam.) —Cryptic (talk) 07:29, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- When I saw this, I thought of Money Mark, who worked with the Beastie Boys. However, Money Mike's main claim to fame was "selling" 1,000 mix tapes most of which have not been paid for. As such, he fails WP:music so Delete. Capitalistroadster 07:59, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Tonywalton | Talk 12:42, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Capitalistroadster. - Mgm|(talk) 14:29, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:music --Apyule 07:59, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete -- Joolz 12:54, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
'Delete NN & Vanity. I already removed two external links to a unbuilt website and a non-public Yahoo! Group with all of 11 members. Caerwine 08:42, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Nateji77 14:35, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, nn, vanity. Andrew pmk | Talk 18:37, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete ugh. nnanity. -Splash 21:04, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete innanity ooh, a double pun :-/ ---CH (talk) 05:18, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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