User talk:Wildhartlivie

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Just cut an paste them when you need them from this page, I keep them on my user page. The dates are always formatted correctly, just remember to increment the date, as often as possible, as I sometimes forget to do.

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Jim Jones Comment

Hey, Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. I have no problem with the veracity of Flavor Aid, but I couldn't find reliable sources for it any more than I could for the Kool-Aid. The History Channel video showed that Flavor Aid and Kool-Aid were available in Guyana, and the investigator mentioned "cool-aid" packets. There are no sources cited for Flavor Aid being there, though I do not dispute it. Wouldn't the lack of sources make Flavor Aid the original research? My contention is that in the light of the fact that they had both drink mixes, and investigators said the generic "cool-aid" it is presumptuous, and there is no good reason to assume that they only had Flavor Aid. Thoughts? Leenunes (talk) 02:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Films July 2008 Newsletter

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This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 02:49, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Hag2 request

Hi, Wild... I want to clean my Usertalk. I thought that I would ask you to delete everything of yours first, with the exception of the Reference Guide. I will then delete my own comments. I do not feel that our correspondence is necessary to be kept around as archive material. Thank you. (p.s. you can delete this ASAP.) Hag2 (talk) 15:15, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

novel

So it's called a non-fiction novel, as other books are, but that phrase is a contradiction in terms. Novels are fiction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.64.190.41 (talk) 07:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the Insensitivity.

Thank you for correcting me in my insensitive post on the Jonestown issue.

If I had a tail it would be stuck between my legs. since I don't have a tail I can only feet embarrased about my post and continue to remember this admonishment. Gilda Rules! Jaxdave

Marlon Brando

Please ask for page protection on Marlon Brando. There have been 16 attacks in the last 100 edits, over a one month period, by 92.x.x.x. or 16%. There have been 39 (39% of the time) reverts (rv, undid, delete, reverting) in the last 100 edits. Thanks. 207.69.137.35 (talk) 18:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC) (aka Zoro)

Talk:Political Alliances of the People's Temple (copied from Mosedschurte)

I was hoping you'd jump into this discussion. My perspective is that no one will be satisfied until there is no mention of Harvey Milk and Peoples Temple on the same page, but that's probably not entirely fair. I'm not sure what else to say about this. Wildhartlivie (talk) 16:08, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I generally agree, except "no one" is really one editor. The Rfc he started demonstrated that his feelings were not that of everyone. In fact, many wanted a fairly extensive section to stay in the Milk article.

I did jump in the discussion.Mosedschurte (talk) 16:17, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

You probably do not want to re-enter the craziness of the Milk talk page, but for a laugh, you should go check the history of the Milk article now on adding literally a SINGLE SENTENCE on Milk's support of Jones and a link to the new article.Mosedschurte (talk) 16:39, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

hi

was a mistake. I am a multiple partner in many languages. and at that time was putting images that were not used. command him greetings and I apologise--Argentumm (talk) 16:48, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Gia Carangi

Hi Wildhart! Thanks for the note about Gia Carangi. When you left your note I realized that I had heard of her as just Gia. Having never heard the last name before threw me for a loop. (Like saying "I've never heard of Madonna Ciccone.") I wondered why I'd never seen the name in any of the reading I did for Ryan White... Anyways, I agree and took her out. Should have looked into it more closely when the IP added it to begin with. --JayHenry (talk) 00:57, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I had never heard of this movie (I didn't have HBO back then). Is it any good? You know, beauty is a funny thing. When I first looked at that picture of her I thought she was unexceptional looking. But like an aftertaste, I've found myself unable to shake the image from my mind. --JayHenry (talk) 01:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Winehouse Note

I did not know about that policy. Thank you for telling me Edkollin (talk) 15:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

A matter of priority

Happy to. I just wish there was a standard usage, 'cause other projects are using importance.... TREKphiler ^{hit me ♠} 07:20, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Cynthia Stone

Yep...I'll give it a go. Pinkadelica 21:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Edits

2. All of my contributions were removed yesterday - Eve Ensler, Al Shean, Arletty, Lydia Thompson, Ada Rehan, Elizabeth Short. All were researched with the appropriate references. Did someone dislike the fact that I linked them to my site, which posits possible reincarnatory links with the various people named. Even if whoever it was didn't like the links, the information was solid and enhanced each one of the articles, while I feel my editing improved them. I feel very disappointed in Wikipedia for doing this. Getting rid of the links would have sufficed. Getting rid of my contributions seems malicious. Seems like a very prejudiced editor slashed all my contributions. I'd appreciate hearing from you as to the motivation behind it, or putting me in touch with whoever did it. Gracias OrlandoMaroro (talk) 01:21, 14 August 2008 (UTC)OrlandoMaroro

Madonna and her truly amazing film career

Hi, I just noticed that Talk:Madonna (entertainer) is appearing in the Category:Top-priority biography (actors and filmmakers) articles and I can't remember how to split the project listing in the talk page. I'm sure that it's probably a link from a music related project. I can't remember what to do, and I hope you can. I did a double take, reading down the list.... Rossrs (talk) 07:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks - I'll keep note so that I know how to change it in future. I remember changing one back when we were working on that list, but I couldn't remember who it was. You don't suppose Madonna is secretly editing here, do you? Boosting her sales figures and boasting about her acting career? And Eminem?

I've gone through quite a number of actress articles, made a list and tried to group them according to the content, style or completeness of their leads, and then with the ones that are more than a mere stub of a lead, I've tried to suggest what I think is needed. I've gone through numerous articles and found less than 10 that I think are complete and needing no further attention. That's pretty terrible, isn't it? It's all here :User:Rossrs/Sandbox2. I've listed every actress nominated for a Best Actress Oscar, every female from the Top Priority Category, I've started Best Supporting Actress nominees (working backwards from the present) and have added random names as they've popped into my head. It's obviously not going to be a quick fix, but any effort directed to it can only be an improvement. It would be great if Pinkadelica also took part.

As for a rule of thumb, I think that can be easily determined. I guess kicking around some ideas will be the way, but I've noticed certain things as I've been reviewing, and have made comments. It's interesting that some leads look quite good until you read them and see that they are a stream of hollow praise, or they focus on trivia, or place undue weight on one thing while ignoring some other aspect that is also relevant. There is currently no uniformity. Maybe if we can agree on the ideal example and then use that as a model. I think we need to look at uniformity in structure, content and language/tone, and also determine whether it is a true summary of the article or if it contains unsupported assertions.

What is your view of "Award-winning" in the opening sentence? I have to admit, it sets my teeth on edge. Katharine Hepburn, Maggie Smith, Helen Hayes, Judi Dench, to give a few examples, have/had absolutely stunning, noteworthy careers that have enriched their profession to a high degree, but here it seems that they are measured by the number of awards they won, and nothing else is relevant. I think it does them (and Wikipedia) a disservice. To me, that's a major problem to be addressed. Awards are fine, but in context. Rossrs (talk) 12:33, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I've been a bit sidelined by the Olympics too, but it's been great. I think you've suggested a good approach. How about we pick 2 or 3 leads that we think are of the required standard, compare them to see if they are similar in style, and then identify their key points. Then if we can have a guideline that is a simple 1, 2, 3, 4...., we can start bringing them into line. Which do you think we should be looking at as models? Rossrs (talk) 07:50, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Michael Phelp is amazing isn't he? I wouldn't like to be paying his food bill, and on a selfishly personal note, every time an Australian gets in the pool with him, I hope for a silver or bronze, because it's pretty certain there'll be no gold for the Aussie. I'm happy to host this discussion over at my place, and then archive it when we're finished discussing the basics. Ideally, I'd like to see a list for both female (which is just about complete, I think) plus males, and a general idea of where we're heading, and then start project pages, and continue the discussions on that talk page/s. I've never started a mini-project or a project-spin-off or whatever this is, so I'm a little unsure about the protocols. The four choices you've given sound fine to me. Rossrs (talk) 08:31, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I've replied on my page as per our previous comments. It seems that we were both working on the male actor list at the same, so I'll merge them together. Michael makes it 8! Rossrs (talk) 08:26, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect Charge

Thanks for notifying me about the charge being incorrect. (70.244.58.103 (talk) 21:28, 14 August 2008 (UTC))