Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2005 September 16
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Fake bio, asserts notability, verifiably false -- neither Philip Glass nor John Cage are secretly a Bostonian woman named Ria Fulton Jkelly 00:56, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as hoax. Born in 1982, won a Pulitzer Prize for a New Yorker article in 1986. Rest of article continues in similar vein. Capitalistroadster 01:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Actually, I read the New Yorker article, and it was phenomenal and enlightening. Her insights into the connection between Clueless and the Velvet Revolution were bold and thought-provoking. I can't believe anyone would dare consider this article for deletion. Gerald Freugel, Ph.D., Jonathan O. Millner Professor of Government, Swarthmore College
- Entry from 152.23.189.3
- Sorry, Swarthmore's website doesn't know you. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- delete hoax Derex 03:27, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Obviously you all were not at symphony hall to hear Fulton’s virtuosic performance of the Korngold Concerto. Check out the Boston Globe’s review. Heifetz, who sent the concerto back to Korngold calling it unplayable, sat in the audience and listened incredulously as his student mastered the piece’s demanding technical elements while handling the delicate melodies with style and flair. It is ignorant of you to dismiss Fulton so quickly. I believe she is one of the greatest musicians of our time as well as an insightful social theorist. –George Thkanhktopsis, Distinguished Professor of Economics, University of Chicago.
- When did this supposedly happen? There is no "Ria Fulton" in the Boston Globe's online archives. And there is no "George Thkanhktopsis" (and what language is that name supposed to be?) at the University of Chicago. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Entry from 152.23.96.149
- Comment. Was a requested article as a journalist although a quick Google did not show any reason why. No change of vote from delete. Capitalistroadster 05:35, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Capitalist, I am aware of Google's limitations when it comes to such geniuses as Ria Fulton. Her works are highly undocumented because of her largely reclusive personality. Don't scorn her for her tortured brilliance. Google does not a hero make. Francis Phuerter, Director, Julliard School of Music
- Entry from 152.23.189.3
- Francis Phuerter, huh? Do they call you Frank? Frank Phuerter? And Julliard's website doesn't know you. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, hoax. North Carolina's tax dollars at work.[2] -- Gyrofrog (talk) 06:13, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete hoax Tuf-Kat 06:37, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Completely absurd assertions, hoax. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:18, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- speedy delete--bodnotbod 08:31, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, as hoax, people don't get Pullitzer prizes when they're 4 years old. If she is in fact a recluse and her life is highly undocumented as claimed, this isn't verifiable anyway. If someone can write a real verifiable article on the subject, I'm not opposing it. - Mgm|(talk) 09:12, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Speedy delete, patent nonsense. --DrTorstenHenning 10:57, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. BJAODN worthy this ain't. RasputinAXP talk * contribs 11:45, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete this boring hoax. Vizjim 12:46, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Wikipedia may be the only way to expose the world to Fulton, although what is known about her amazing life may be in cryptic form, wikipedia's open editing has allowed everyone to contribute his own piece to the puzzle. Johnny Stephenson, North Carolina Historian.
- Can you give us some works you've written, Johnny? User:Zoe|(talk) 21:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep We noted a typo which has most likely been causing a lot of confusion... Fulton was born in 1952, not 1982. And the references to Phillip Glass and John Cage were meant metaphorically, of course. Hope this clears everything up. - James Wannamaker, Director of Folklore and English Studies at Boston College
- Funny, Boston College's website has no mention of a James Wannamaker. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete — Creative writing exercise. Plenty of hoax votes throughout this AfD I see. — RJH 15:48, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete Hoax, Sockpuppet supported (North Carolina Research and Education Network). At least one of the sockies had a NC sig...--Isotope23 15:52, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: Unfunny hoax. The sock author should go play outside. Geogre 18:02, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Comment You’re not supposed to scare away new users by calling them childish. I took Fulton’s class at Sloan, The Laguna Beach Love Triangle and Communism. She was very secretive; she lectured from behind a screen and used some sort of voice modulator. Nevertheless her insights were profound. Today’s culture is not taken seriously by many modern scholars; it is refreshing to see Fulton’s open-mindedness showcased here on Wikipedia.
- Keep At the opening of Memorial Hall in Chapel Hill this weekend (September 10, 2005) Itzhak Perlman spotted a member of Fulton’s entourage, Nat Shelness, in the audience. During intermission Perlman approached Shelness and asked about Fulton, who was listening to the concert from the Royal Box. Perlman was admitted to the box and invited Fulton to perform. Reluctantly, Fulton agreed to perform Bach’s Double Concerto. Fulton performed from behind a screen. Leonard Slatkin dropped his baton in amazement during the first movement. Fulton’s papers are kept under lock and key, they will be published posthumously at her request, at the Southern Historical Collection in the Wilson Library at UNC-Chapel Hill. She is also discussed at length in one of Gerald Moore’s autobiographies, of course he doesn’t refer to her by her name. -Dylan Roberts, Poet Laureate of the Judith Oakley Institute for the Advancement of the English Language.
- Hm. Nat Shelness seems to be yet again another student in Winston-Salem, in the same high school class as Ria Fulton. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, obviously, as hoax. All these sockpuppets are freaking me out. Sdedeo 19:49, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Comment All these people who stay inside all day and watch the Fulton page are freaking me out. Keep your comments objective Sdedo.
- Keep I am writing a book on the folklore and mystery surrounding Fulton’s life. My agent is in contact with Simon and Schuster, Little, Brown, and Bantam. The book should be published at the end of the year under the title, Fulton: A Life Under Glass. I am also preparing an article for Harper’s on Fulton. Walter G. Pressman, III, Project for the Appreciation of Innovative Thinkers, Amsterdam.
- Zero Google hits for "Project for the Appreciation of Innovative Thinkers", or for "Walter G. Pressman". User:Zoe|(talk) 21:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Did none of you read Fulton's "A Call for Pacifism" in The New York Review of Books? I'm frankly appalled. -Dada45
- User's only edit. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:34, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Obviously reality.
- Delete. Funny, but the Pulitzer Prize website makes no mention of this lady as having won their prize in 1986 or any other year. And all Google hits for her seem to indicate that she is, or at least was in 2004, a high school girl in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:16, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Note that four of the above supposedly diffrerent people have all edited from User:152.23.189.3, which is assigned to North Carolina Research and Education Network. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:33, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep I’m still crying from Fulton’s performance at Memorial Hall. Thad Thompson.
- Another editor from the 152.23.xx.xxx range. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:43, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep I took Fulton's class at Sloan, The Laguna Beach Love Triangle and Communism, she is a brilliant woman.
Note: See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nat Shelness. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:42, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. No mention on Pullitzer Prize website. Assumed to be a hoax. Down with the sockpuppets. Andrew pmk | Talk 23:35, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- No-one has speedied this page yet? The patience of Wikipedia passes comprehension. Oh, no, I see Ryan Delaney did speedy it. It's a recreation of a deleted page, wow. Thank you all for the amusing hoax votes, but they're getting a little repetitious, and the article itself isn't frankly that amusing. I'm speedying the page .... NOW, and removing it from the AFD page. Time to go list it on Votes for undeletion, and create a funny Request for arbitration on me. Thank yer, thank yer! Bishonen | talk 00:23, 17 September 2005 (UTC).