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Folks, our LONG dry spell without Ariel is almost over. Her new puter is being built and will be shipped within a few days. Allow a few days for shipping too. Oh, in a week or so and she'll be back in full swing! YIPPEE!!! — Rlevse • Talk • 20:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Great!! It'll be nice to have her back, because one measure of Ariel is the wonderful collection of nuts-and-bolts who appreciate and miss her so much. Viva Voce Ariel! Shir-Eltoo23:18, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to the amazing generosity of friends, I'm able to edit once again! YAY~!!~ Now, if I could just remember how to write in wiki code, and what these buttons do.... hrmmm... Okay, so I'm still working on getting set up, but I'm back, and will slowly get back into the swing :) ~*Hugs*~ Ariel♥Gold11:02, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Ariel. I am working right now on the Civility Policy and one thing I am doing is linking the page to users who have written essays on aspects of civility and civil behaviours . Would you consider allowing your etiquette pages/pages to be linked to the Civility Policy?(olive (talk) 14:41, 26 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Feel free to link to it! I never really finished it, but it is pretty much done. I always intended to move it into WP space, but I'm not sure how many people would actually read it, lol. But you're more than welcome to link to it whenever, or wherever, dear :) ~*Hugs*~ Ariel♥Gold14:54, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why did you hide the EVA stuff? I can understand the wake up calls. Since there is info for the EVA's, I think it should be on the page and seen. All other shuttle missions had that info well before the launch of the shuttle.--navy_blue84 Navy Blue 17:04, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Actually all other flights have the information hidden until launch. The reason being, the EVAs do not happen if the launch does not happen. And anything can cause them to be postponed, changed, etc., especially before the FRR has even happened. Generally, once the FRR is done, and the official Mission Press Kit is put out, then the mission timeline is filled out, and the EVA table is shown. :) Ariel♥Gold17:09, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Signature/user page
Thank you for pointing that out. I am new to all this and am still learning. I would like to create a user page like you have(diffrent of course, I hope you know what I mean). If you could assist me that would be great. I will work on my signature now thought. Thank you.--Navy Blue 84 (talk) 17:33, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Yeah prior to reverting it (as I always do) I reviewed the edit history, and the changes. I saw the numerous edits by the same IP removing sourced info, it would appear that the IP in question has been doing this for the past day or so. However, those who have reverted the IP and restored the page, did not leave a warning on the IP's talk page, so the IP has not been given adequate information as to why the changes were reverted. Since it is just the one IP targeting the page, a Semi-protection would also not be warranted. My advice would be if you see it happening again, that you use a warning template and go up a level each time the IP continues to remove sourced information and puts in suspect, unconfirmed and unsourced speculation. Ariel♥Gold21:42, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
STS-129
I do not object to citing news sites, even nsf sometimes. But this involves people. Suppose it's not true and the astronauts or their families see it here and get excited? CASE IN POINT, someone else changed the STS-129 and Anna Fischer profiles to say she was one of the crewmembers named to the mission, and guess what, they cited nasaspaceflight as their source when the argument came up. Suppose it's wrong this time? I am not saying it is, only the what if.
Tell me, what is the big deal in not waiting? What implications will it have to not wait and ensure it is the crew before publishing?
Now that aside, you also did something today which I am questioning. Thanks for creating a processing page, but why did you change the spaceflight now reference to a nsf reference? I want a real reason, when in fact spaceflight now was first to report the delay to rollout yesterday? Firsts aside, what is a good reason to cite nsf over sfn for something like rollover or rollout milestones and information? I have never seen SFN make an error, whereas I have definitely seen nsf make errors and retract them or hide them later.--CapeCanaveral321 (talk) 00:56, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I see your point about the family, but if NASA released this info knowing it would be published on a news site, you can guarantee that family and friends have known about it for quite some time. As I said, I am normally the one fighting to keep the crew list off until a reliable source is given (which is normally NASA), but in this case, I fully trust the source, and don't see a reason to not have it up there since it is out in the media, and is verifiable.
As for the Spaceflight Now link you mentioned, the reason I did that was simply because the link went to SFN's general page, which changes as new reports come in. I was unable to find a link to an article that actually was a dedicated page for that item, so I googled "STS-129 rollout" and the first thing that came up was NSF. It is not any preference on my part (in fact, I would have to say that I tend to prefer SFN simply because they use William Harwood from CBS who I know, and trust.) If you can find a dedicated URL page for the rollout info, that would be best, but I wasn't able to find one on the site, and since the URL that the reference went to changes, in a month that news item would no longer be there. (This is what also happens with CBS News Space Place links, but they later move to a sub page and so the ref can be fixed to still reflect the news item, it is just a pain lol.) I think you know that I've always thought you rock, and your edits are never something I'd argue with, so I don't wish to be at opposite ends on this, but this is also the first case I've seen where there's a verifiable, reliable source for crew lists in advance of NASA's announcement. I would expect NASA will be announcing this within a week or two, at most. So yes, I see your point about not putting it in, perhaps it could be hidden in comments so it doesn't have to be typed all over, but I still think in this case, I'd allow it, rather than remove it as I usually do, simply due to the fact that it is a media report. (I don't know who Anna Fisher is, but if a media outlet said she was a crewmember, and it was a reliable, verifiable, media source, I shouldn't see why it would not be appropriate to put that in either.) Let me know if you can get a URL for SFN for the rollout thing! :) Ariel♥Gold01:13, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
CC, I'm a member of L2, and I saw the post you're referring to. Yes, there are forums, but L2 itself is not a forum. It is a source of information sent to Bergin by employees of NASA, the Forum is simply the best method of distributing that information to members. I'm certain that Chris either knew the person who posted the crew info to know it was not false, or he emailed other people to confirm it, otherwise he never would have published it on the news site. Ariel♥Gold10:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
