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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Dr CA Gauci MD (talk | contribs) at 11:25, 21 September 2005 (→[[Charles Gauci]]). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Charles Gauci

Delete or reduce drastically the content. Who is this man? Is he worth an entry in wikipedia. What is the last line in the article? The article proofs to be very long, yet the encyclopeadic content is very limited.. the content is a series of dates and events which are irrelevant to the Wikipedian concept. Maltesedog 19:18, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Molotov (talk) 22:44, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. There seems to be a reasonably notable man named Charles Gauci, a stage magician, but this article isn't about him. 68.20.28.234 02:57, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep Maltesedog you really show how silly you are. If you go to the history books at the University you will find a number of books written by Dr Charles A Gauci. Also before you get crafty MAKE sense. You want to delete but also say reduce. Make your mind up!!! Here are some links of who this person is. [1];[2]; [3]; [4]. It seems the Maltese Government knows who he is. Lastly if you do happen to have a copy of the Maltese Coats of Arms, guess who its been written by? You guess it, none other then the person you want deleted.Tancarville 15.00 15th September 2005 (EST)
    • You have a strong interest in keeping articles concerning Maltese Nobility online, even though they are of no importance whatsoever. I look forward to the view of others concerning deletion of this article, whose encyclopeadic content is barerly none, since the article only contains figures and date. Tancerville, please stop accusing me personally.Maltesedog 06:06, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • I do have a strong sense of the Nobility as if you refer to your deletion to the Maltese Nobility, there is an essence of recording history. Dr CA Gauci biobraphy does need to be cleaned up especially with those titles, but I dont agree his biography should be deleted at all.In future you should place a cleanup tag and note reasons for the clean up, then make communications with its author, and if its not to the satisfaction of Wikipedia, then proceed to deletion. I find this very unfair that you simply strike something rightaway to deletion when this biography was simply published only a week ago. Be fair and give others a chance. .Tancarville 08.49 16th September 2005 (EST)
        • Given the size of Malta and the number of Maltese nobles, having an article for every Maltese noble in Wikipedia would be like having an article for every city councilman for every medium size city in the world, and the Maltese nobles don't even have any real power. None of the accomplishments listed in any of the links provided above strike me as notable. At most, authoring a directory about Maltese nobles merits linking to his website from an article about the Maltese nobility and including his name in the description of the link. Caerwine 05:07, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep My my my, Maltese Dog, you are such an important fellow! Whether you keep me on Wikipedia or not is of no real consequence; for your information, I am a Senior Consultant in chronic pain management based in London with two textbooks to my name (the latest is being translated into Spanish, Korean & Japanese), I am a Member of the Board of Directors of the World Institute of Pain, a member of the Board of Examiners for the FIPP Diploma, an author of many medical papers, an international lecturer on chronic pain (Europe, Asia, USA & South America) and also happen to be a visiting consultant in Pain Management to St. Luk'es Hospital in Malta. Have written several books on Maltese Genealogy and Heraldry which have become the standard reference works. I'm sure you can think of many other people who have achieved more than me; maybe one day you will too; until that time, learn some manners, this will serve you well when you graduate.Dr CA Gauci MD...(ps I'm not the magician!)
  • Delete Holding a non-exclusive title of nobility from an extinct state that possesse no de jure power deriving from that title is not enough to warrant being notable and I don't see anything other than that in this lengthy article that is a claim to notability. Caerwine 11:39, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is having a noble title sufficient to have an article in Wikipedia? If no delete Maltesedog 17:55, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Refer to the deletion of Maltese nobility. Do you read anything and understand any comments made by others in previous attemps for deletion??Tancarville 08.49 16th September 2005 (EST)
      • Maltesedog you should really take note of comments made in the deletion of the Maltese Nobility. You are unjust with your comments and most importantly if you even look at the who's who in Malta you will find me there. Over time you shall locate just about everyone in the who's who of Malta in Wikipedia.Dr CA Gauci MD 09.49 16th September 2005 (EST)
    • Comment (Hopefully my last) I see three claims to notability that Dr. Gauci and his supporters are making
  1. He is a Maltese noble. Problem: Simply having a noble title is not sufficient to make someone notable.
  2. He is the leading expert on Maltese nobles. Problem: The number of people interested in Maltese nobles (at least in an English encyclopedia) is almost certainly below the 5000 person threshold to make that notable enough for Wikipedia. Probably would be enough to justify an article on the Maltese Wiktionary, but there doesn't seem to be one there. (Which I readilly admit doesn't mean much since there are less than 1,000 articles on the Maltese Wiktionary, but perhaps if the gallant defenders of Maltese nobility would make an effort there would more articles there.)
  3. He is a notable practioner in pain management. Problem: While I can't speak of his second textbook, I can find a great deal more information on the co-author of the first J.R. Wedley (who happens to have first billing on that textbook by the way) than I can on the Dr. Gauci. Unfortunately for Dr. Gauci, what I can find on him indicates that he is not any more notable than an average professor. Now if Dr. Gauci has developed a bold new technique in pain management that has become a standard approach in that field, that would certainly make him notable, but it's not in the article and I haven't found any indication that he has.
In short, I stand by earlier view of this article, that it is a non-notable vanity article and should therefore be deleted. Caerwine 14:43, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ,

I was searching the site when I came across this articly, and I must say I was quite impressed by it.

How come that this Lt. Colonel Dr Charles A. Gauci, a totally irrelevant person to Malta is featured here? I find it to be a very misleading article as readers who are not familiar with Malta are inevitably induced into believing that he is somehow to be considered important, whilst in fact he can be considered anonymous!

I don't think that this person, whoever he is [with due respect], should be mentioned here, and thus this article should be removed.

Maria P.

  • Hi there Maria., you failed to provide Facts to why Dr Charles Gauci shouldnt be listed here. Charles does come from a very historical and influence Maltese family. His sister (Mrs Zammit Cordina)only just received the Highest Order in Australia for her work in Malta and Charles will soon receive one of the Highest orders by the Republic of Malta for his efforts to Heraldry and Genealogy. Please be sutle and respect those who have achieved. This gentleman does deserve the honour of being listed on wikipedia. If not then we might as well delete all Maltese biographies including former Primeministers. Maria you also failed to provide a User name and also proof of membership. On that account your words are meaningless. Maltesedog has always failed in his attempt to provide FACTS other then a reduction to Dr CA Gauci's biography. .Tancarville 07.00 17th September 2005 (EST)
    • That his sister may be notable, does not make him notable. That his familiy may be notable does not make him notable. That he may receive an award, may make him notable once he has received that award if the award is notable and that fact can be verified. The onus of demonstrating notability is on those claiming that he is notable as if he is notable, that fact should be easy to show. Caerwine 03:42, 17 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Tancarville has created a bunch of troublesome articles on persons who are allegedly Maltese nobility. Against Wikipedia norms he signs the articles, and they are generally taken directly from web pages Tancarville authored. Original research, verifiability suspect, notability unclear. Finally, the article is a dreadful read. If you had been interested in Charles Gauci before, you won't be after trying to read this article. Quale 03:17, 17 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • If this is a valid title, then keep, but I suggest keep it short. Move the material on the title itself to another article. Rich Farmbrough 19:17, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks for your support Farmbrough., Dr Charles Gauci does have a legitimate noble title, though I do agree that his biography should be shorten. But I dont agree that it should be taken down. I am persistent with this as I am the author who placed this on wikipedia. Many thanks. Tancarville
  • Caerwine said it all. Just because you're noble is not reason for retaining an article. Tancarville, you should understand the scope of wikipedia.
    • Just to be clear on my point of view, I feel that modern nobles, who have no political powers deriving from their status are not by default notable. Charles Gauci is just such a modern noble, and as such the fact that he is modern noble does not make him notable. It doesn't preclude him being notable on other grounds, but none of the other facts presented about him are sufficient to warrant him being called sufficiently notable to have an article of his own in a world-wide English-language comprehensive encyclopedia such as Wikipedia. A brief mention that he is the sole and current holder of a particular noble title would be appropriate in an article about that title, assuming he has such a title. The text of the article makes it sound like his brothers and sons (if any) also qualify to concurrently hold those titles that he does possess. Caerwine 18:24, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • I agree with Caerwine that noble Titles are not sufficient for someone to have a biography on wikipedia, though has any one read what Dr Gauci is, other then his noble connection?? He is one of the world specialist in Pain management. Does the annoying User:Maltesedog understand this or is it as silly as the dog is? At the end of the day, common sense should prevail, not studipity because one has a disliking to those who were born with a silver soon. Please view Dr Gauci's biograpghy from the first two paragraphs and comment on that please. With respect Dr Gauci is connected to a title which I am also connected to Vassallo-Paleologo which is extended to all descendants through the male and female lines. This does give those the right to style the title of Count or Countess. HM, Queen Paola of the Belgiums is also a descendant. Importantly, only a small faction really style themselves a title, as there are descendants all over the world and can run into the thousands of living descendants. Tancarville 14.15, 21 September 2005 (EST)
        • I already addressed the other points raised as arguments for Dr. Gauci's notability in my comments of 14:43, 16 September 2005 and 17:51, 20 September 2005 and said why I found them lacking. Caerwine 09:54, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all the folderol that's now in the "Count Gauci" section as of vanity significance only. I'm unenthusiastic about the rest, too. But is this Gauci the junior author of A New Guide to the Birds of Malta (Valletta, 1982)? If so, then he starts to sound interesting. Anyway, he's said to be an expert on pain. Is he an expert on pain? I am not qualified to judge. -- Hoary 04:51, 21 September 2005 (UTC) PS The reek of vanity is overpowering, and the sockpuppets don't help. USERFY, or rather, let Dr CA Gauci MD add as much as he wants to User:Dr CA Gauci MD. Incidentally, I note that all the contributions to Wikipedia by Dr CA Gauci MD are in one way or another directly related to Dr CA Gauci MD. -- Hoary 09:18, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I have all of Charles Gauci's books and he is a man of talent and genius. I believe he should be kept. Also a renown doctor and specialist in pain relief. Preziosi 04:51, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Remarkably, this is Preziosi's very first contribution to Wikipedia. -- Hoary 09:06, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • Hopefully not my last either. Seems I support User:Tancarville original work and I strongly believe that User:Maltesedog should take a strong look at itself. Very sad day indeed defending other Maltese from Maltese themselves. Incidentally, I am a second cousin to the Count Preziosi which makes me very proud to be connected to the Nobility. Half of the present members of Government in Malta are of noble descent. So good work Dr Gauci. Preziosi 1100, 21 September 2005 (UTC).
        • Half of the presenet members of government are of noble descent. I doubt whether you are living in Malta. Details please. 10:41, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment I am told that [User:Maltesedog] was rejected with his application when he presented his lineage to become an Associate member of the Foreign Titles Assocation of Malta because they were self styled and false. Is this really a get back against the Author who is also the Secretary of the Assocation? A personal attack on Gauci and all the Maltese Nobility as a whole?? You certainly have put the Maltese people in general down for a lack of pride. Dr CA Gauci MD, 900 21 September 2005.(UTC)
    • This is stunning news, Dr CA Gauci MD, especially considering that Maltesedog doesn't reveal any other name on his or her user page. Was the FTAM approached by somebody calling him- or herself "Maltesedog", or how do you know his or her name? And you are told this -- by whom? (That is, if you really think this is significant.) -- Hoary 09:06, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • Comment' I never applied to become a member of the Foreign Title Association of Malta. Please proof your statements and do not invent on persons who have nothing to do with the matter just to gain personal advantage. What you stated was a pure lie. Maltesedog 09:48, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
        • Reply I dont believe that wikipedia would let me place your name here, or you (maltesedog) would use that against me. So to protect myself, I have made a statement but to not inclur an upsetting of the (maltesedog) I shall refuse to comment further. Dr CA Gauci MD 1025. 21 September 2005, (UTC).
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