Talk:Jean Vanier

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With regard to the observation below, I should like to suggest that the rule against the expression of points of view can be taken too far. A statement such as, "Tony Blair is considered to be one of the greatest British statesmen of all time" needs a citation since it is such a controversial opinion and one probably held by very few people. A statement such as, "T.S. Eliot is thought to have been one of the most important poets in the English language during the twentieth century" is so widely accepted that it scarcely constitutes a point of view. The same goes for the description of Jean Vanier in the offending old text. Some people need to recognise the difference between abiding by the rules and becoming pettifogging about them.--AlexanderLondon 18:15, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article has some NPOV issues. It almost seems like a press release in some parts. For example the old text "Considered as one of today’s greatest figures of compassion, Jean Vanier was born in Canada..." contains a Point Of View, but no attribution of who made this claim. Perhaps interested folks could add in some citations from some reliable sources. Eclipsed 00:38, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Further down the page it lists the International awards he has received. But if you can find anyone who wants to say anything bad about him, please feel free to add the quote. Vanier himself would be the first to admit his own brokenness.Andycjp 6th August 2005

It's not about bad or good, it's about creating a better article by neutrality and citations, in accordance with established wikipedia policies. Eclipsed 01:38, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Moose Jaw

Theres also a highschool named after him in Moose Jaw, Sask. I would edit it but im not as familliar with the suspefics of wikipedia as i could be. Danos 18:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Points of view - school

This article is not being objective WRT points of view. There is no need, and it is not necessarily true to say "at Canada's most highly respected school at Upper Canada College in Toronto" as it has not been cited or confirmed that it is the most highly respected school. And under what category? What kind of school? I think it is a student who wrote this contribution. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dukechris (talk • contribs) 17:43, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty small thing to worry about - I would suggest that a way to fix the offending text would be to simply remove the word "most". Certainly UCC has a reputation for being highly respected (perhaps prestigious is a better word) because it has produced more members of government than any single college in canada: It has produced 3 Leftenant Governors, 11 Mayors and Premiers, 15 Members of Parliament, and 9 federal Ministers. And just so you know, I've never been there, nor was I a student. It's just a common point of cultural knowledge (though I admit I didn't already know the numbers of UCC alumni who were members of the government. See the citations on the UCC Wikipedia site for a list of sources who have listed it as the most prestigious school in canada. 64.38.183.220 (talk) 00:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Biography

This page needs some more biographical information, for example it does not indicate that Jean Vanier was Canadian, though there are many hints throughout the text that he had significant interest in or connection to Canada. There is nothing here except for his connection with L'Arche and his ministery with Light. 64.38.183.220 (talk) 00:40, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]