Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 September 10
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This template, along with Oppose, Neutral and Question, were deleted because it was felt that the icons they contained (
and 
) encourage people to believe that AFD etc are a vote. There seems to be no objection to the existence of the templates, other than the icons, and I propose that for consistency with commons and other wikis, and as per discussion at AN, we should: 1. reenable creation of these templates; 2. create templates following the example in User:BenAveling/support; and 3. permanent protect the templates. Regards Ben Aveling 00:26, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Seems fine to me. I always felt that the oppositions to the icons on face had sort of a tinfoil hat character. AfD isn't a vote (but it was) and these templates don't make it a vote anymore than bolding the words "Delete" do. I am however, willing to be persuaded that this isn't necessary because we have roughly equivalent userspace templates right now. The other arguments (server space, "changing opinion", "debasing debate" etc) don't hold much water with me. Protonk (talk) 02:23, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Awesome. --NE2 03:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)- I'd accept their use at RfA if they did not have icons, on the grounds that the discussions there are so much in need of improvement that anything is worth the try. "Support" is not usually what one says at AfD, in any case, but keep/delete/etc. and I would encourage people to give more nuanced opinions in any case. eg "keep or at worst merge." Changing AfD to any extent towards an explicit vote is the opposite direction from where we should go. DGG (talk) 04:48, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Is there a link to any discussion of these deletions? Spartaz Humbug! 05:57, 10 September 2008 (UTC)Slow day. By the way endorse deletion. Very clear consensus in the discussion and I can't see any evidence that consensus has changed. Spartaz Humbug! 06:00, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
