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FAC and MoS

Epbr, no one is routinely checking for the most basic MoS items anymore, and I'm often finding that I have to fix the simple basics of WP:MOS and WP:ACCESSIBILITY myself. Do you have any interest in re-engaging at FAC? It doesn't make a lot of sense for me to be monitoring crit 2 myself, but that seems to be the situation. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, ok, I'll try to give each FAC at least a brief look, although I can't commit to giving each one a thorough MOS check. Epbr123 (talk) 22:19, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I mean basics like WP:MSH, WP:LAYOUT, WP:ACCESSIBILITY, etc. No one checks, and I end up correcting them before promotion. Thanks Epbr. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hillsgrove Covered Bridge

Thanks for your edits to this article. I believe that the period was justified inside the quotation before your change though, but also know I might not be interpreting WP:PUNC correctly. The MOS says When quoting a sentence fragment which ends in a period, some judgement is required: if the fragment communicates a complete sentence, the period can be placed inside. The original complete sentence I quoted is:

"The Bradford and Sullivan County bridges, because of their settings, are some of the most attractive in the state."

Since almost all of this sentence is quoted in the article, I assumed that logically the period should be inside the quotation mark - it denotes both the end of the sentence and the end of the quotation. So I wrote:

According to Zacher, the "Sullivan County bridges, because of their settings, are some of the most attractive in the state."[18]

which you changed to

According to Zacher, the "Sullivan County bridges, because of their settings, are some of the most attractive in the state".[18]

I really do not understand this change. I will not revert it, but could you please explain how your version is correct? Thanks in advance, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:04, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion that led to the insertion of that guideline is at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 101#Quotation query, and the guideline was mainly based on this comment:

Look if the quoted material starts with a capital letter or not. If the former, the period should be inside; if the latter, use otherwise. However, there are some examples that omit beginning part of a sentence. For example, "... would explain how you are wrong, but it doesn't matter anyway and you've shown remarkable resistance to understanding things that I say." The period is inside because the quoted material is still complete, emphasized by the use of the comma before the quotation as well the ellipsis.

Therefore, where the guideline says "if the fragment communicates a complete sentence", I think it means if the fragment starts with ellipsis, as in the example above. Epbr123 (talk) 02:46, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks very much for the explanation and for your fixes. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:58, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Oil spill, did not appear to be constructive and has been removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Techman224 (talk) 12:39, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I won't do it again. :) Epbr123 (talk) 12:44, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism reverting

Hi, Epbr. I must say that by looking through your last 900 contributions, I believe the only thing you've been doing on Wikipedia today is reverting vandalism. Might I recommend that you participate in article building for a little while? I mean, you are just simply 1,000,000 times AMAZING with Huggle, but even I can't keep up with you or J.delanoy now. Aside from that, just wondering: Do you look at the AfD at least once every week? Keep up the good "huggling"! :-) SchfiftyThree 22:10, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do enjoy Huggle alot, and it is quite relaxing. I look out for AfDs on certain topics, and probably do contribute to at least one AfD every week. Epbr123 (talk) 22:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sock to deal with

user:Soriano68 is puppet on Soriano67. pretty obvious. Shapiros10 contact meMy work 23:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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