Talk:Rogers Hornsby

300 HR comment

Jeff Kent has since passed 300 home runs so the comment that Rogers is the only 2B to hit 300 HRs needs to be removed.

KKK Member

Well there are two KKK members in the hall of fame and Ty Cobb while known as a racist there is no evidence he was in the KKK the two members were Tris Speaker and Rogers Hornsby both Texas natives.

From another post

Speaker was a member of the KKK, but this was when it was more a political party than what we think of it today. He actually was very supportive of many African-American players when they started to come into the majors.

As for Collins, was it him or Pinky Higgins who was the racist (or was it both of them)? Posted by John (Don't Call Me Grandma) Murphy on September 01, 2004 at 05:50 PM (#831739)

Hornsby was also a KKK member, I believe, but he wasn't very partial to black ballplayers (though he wasn't a virulent racist).

My understanding is that Hornsby was a bigot to some degree, about both blacks and Jews. So were a lot of white people in his generation... and now, for that matter, except it's not socially acceptable. Instead, you hear euphamisms about "liberals" and how they've "ruined this country" during the last 50 years (coincident with Brown v. Board of Education). Hornsby was fairly despicable in a number of ways. Most of his players, who were white, hated him. But unless you can cite solid evidence that he was in the KKK and that it's relevant, i.e. that he openly supported lynchings, etc., then to put it on here smacks of McCarthyism. I see where Lucille Ball's association with Communism in her younger days gets a mention, but that's because she was called before the HUAC. I am not aware that Hornsby was ever called to account for whatever organizations he might or might not have belonged to. But if he was, and if it's verifiable and not just gossip, that could merit a mention on this page. Wahkeenah 20:05, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Call me olf-fashioned, but are there any sources for this? I see a lot of nice stories and for all I know (or anyone that reads them) they could be completely made up. Example

"As with some other star athletes, as a manager he had trouble relating to players who shared neither his talent nor his zeal for winning. As his playing skills waned, he tended to be shuffled from team to team, wearing out his welcome quickly among his charges."

Sounds like POV / unverifiable information to me. Mglovesfun 01:49, 1 October 2006 (UTC)