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It is good to see someone else interested in biology articles. Lion is a Featured Article, which means all facts in it are referenced, so placing new material needs referencing. Also it is a very large article, more material should only be added if really important. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:54, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lion again

I removed the mane bit. Do you have a reference for 3 in. teeth? That is a good bit of information to add as it is more precise. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:58, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stop adding descriptions of the "hypothetical battle(s)" from this show in articles on animals as if it represented common facts. Postdlf (talk) 22:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop adding episode information for episodes that do not exist. Unless you can provide solid evidence that they do, please refrain from adding them. If you continue to add fake episode information, you will be considered a vandal and dealt with accordingly. (Iuio (talk) 05:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Why do you keep adding fake episode info? Are you trying to get blocked? By the way, isn't 9 a bit too young for a user? I am warning you not to keep adding this fake information or one of us will report you. (Iuio (talk) 03:01, 14 June 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Please stop your disruptive editing, such as the edit you made to Animal Face-Off. If your vandalism continues, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. (Iuio (talk) 18:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC))[reply]
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits, such as the one you made to Animal Face-Off. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing. (Iuio (talk) 16:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC))[reply]


SORRY ABOUT THAT

Alright, Iuio, you got me. Sorry I did that. I won't do it again, but it's just that those other face-offs were cool, and since it's an old version of the page, I thought it would be O.K. I promise I won't do it again. Period. Also, my dad (AdRock) bloked me from wikipedia a couple days ago, but he's giving me one last chance, too. But he says that I can only make minor edits, and I can only make major edits if I get his permission. So you won't get anymore mistakes out of me anymore! And you're welcome to discuss this with AdRock on my talk page if you like. See ya'! The Shadow-Fighter (talk) 19:14, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well firstly, I would like to apologise if I seemed too hard on you. But you must understand that those fake episodes were the result of an earlier vandal's activities. Also, if you wish to add information that is generally unnoticed, you should link the article to an external source, otherwise users may interpret your edits as vandalism. Just because the information sounds "cool" doesn't mean that it's true. It would also help if you left a note in the edit summary explaining why you edited the article in the way you did, so other users won't have to search through the edit history to find out what you did to the article. Finally, you should also look at an article's talk page before making any major changes to an article. Sometimes, there is a discussion regarding the inclusion of some of the article's information. If you look at the Animal Face-Off talk page, you can clearly see a topic regarding the episode list. Apparently, there was a previous dispute regarding which episodes were real or fake. Evantually, they figured out which episodes were real and that is the list currently on the article. There was also a topic regarding vandals switching around the list. In this case, if you looked at that talk page, you would have discovered the edits you were about to make involved fake information. I now understand that you were probably not a vandal, but your lack of replies to my warnings and not stopping those edits after receiving the warnings made you look like a vandal. I hope my tips helped. If your father wishes to discuss the matter, he should leave a message on your talk page and I will be happy to respond. (Iuio (talk) 04:58, 3 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Animal articles

Stop adding unsourced changes to articles. Your edit to Asiatic Lion, which claimed that they prey on European Bison, is facially incorrect as they don't have any overlapping range. You have also been seemingly arbitrarily changing the conservation status of various species. You need to add an edit summary for every edit to explain your changes, and you should not make any changes that you can not reference to a reliable source. Failure to do this will result in your changes being reverted and may result in this account being blocked if inappropriate and disruptive edits continue. Postdlf (talk) 14:32, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are you a vandal?

Please do not wrong edits like this one--Altaileopard (talk) 15:22, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

May 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did to Kodiak_Bear, is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources, please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. --Enric Naval (talk) 23:26, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't add unsourced information like you did here. The end of that section has different information on the comparative size of bears, and it's sourced. --Enric Naval (talk) 23:26, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ABOUT THE SHADOW-FIGHTER

The Shadow-Fighter is my 9-year-old son, who is nuts about big cats and popular music genres, among other things. I decided to give him a "trial run" with a Wikipedia account, and as you can see he's been on a bit of a learning curve; in addition, I have not supervised his edits as closely as I had intended.

However, he is abashed at the comments above, which I have told him I think are appropriate, and he wishes to apologize and let it be known that he is not a vandal. For my part, I have instructed him to refrain from further substantive edits until I can begin teaching him how to cite sources. (If anyone has any advice on texts or other sources on big cats that are both authoritative and age-appropriate, we would appreciate it; unfortunately his major source right now are three "Wildlife Fact File" ring-binders from 1991, and these are in many cases outdated.)

Please continue to render constructive advice or gentle guidance to this very intelligent and well-meaning future Wikipedian. AdRock (talk) 16:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmmm, okay... 9 years is perhaps a bit young but we will see. I was even younger when I started my interrest in big cats and other animals. First off all: I am not a native speaker and it is difficult for me to write in not scientific language. So excuse my mistakes. To the point: I can try to have an eye on his edits. I do not know anything about this book, that you metioned above, but there are often bad references like dubious internet pages or newspapaer articles used in the english wiki. So the most important thing is that he gives the source of an edit as a reference:

A reference is given for example like this:

The tiger does not occure on Borneo[1].


If you have further questions, you can ask o my talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Altaileopard (talkcontribs) 20:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Same here, I'll try to keep an eye on his edits. And don't worry about those warnings. If you start editing stuff, you will do mistakes once in a while and people will come to your talk page and tell you about it. It's a normal part of editing wikipedia. If someone makes you a very harsh comment for something you did, you can leave a message on my talk page or ask an experienced editor for advice before answering. --Enric Naval (talk) 22:31, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Ronald M. Nowak: Walker's Mammals of the World. Johns Hopkins University Press, 1999 ISBN 0-8018-5789-9



MORE ABOUT THE SHADOW FIGHTER

Though I shouldn't really say that because I'm The Shadow Fighter myself! Anyway, thanks for the updates. I hope you guys like it here, too! As my Dad (AdRock) said, I am a big fan of big cats. So, Postdlf, you're into Okapis, huh? They're closely related to giraffes and Zebras. My favorite animals are are Tigers and Snow leopards. Yes, I can see why you would think 9 is young, but I've just got to Wikipedia, and I'm just getting started. And yes, Altaileopard, I'm not a vandal, as my Dad said earlier. By the way, I love the place so far. I hope you guys like being a "special" Wikipedian! See ya! The Shadow-Fighter (talk) 22:04, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Caspian tiger vandalism

Sorry, but This is vandalism!--Altaileopard (talk) 09:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


REPLY TO ALTAILEAPARD

Hey, Altaileopard (or can I just call you Leopard for short?)! How's the Leopard (you) doin'? Yes, I can Totally see why you would think that thing about the Caspian Tiger is vandalism. It's just that on the Caspian tiger Artical there were two pictures of a captive Caspian tiger, and when I saw that one of them was in color, I thought that picture was so recent, it couldn't be extict so soon, and the pictures (particulary the one in color, of course) made me think they had to at least be extinct in the wild. Sorry! The Shadow-Fighter (talk) 21:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but that is vandalism. You can not make an edit without a refernce only because of what you think. I woud appreciate to see your account deleted. You are a either vandal, stupid or just to young.--Altaileopard (talk) 06:56, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Alta, shadow is very young, 9 years, according to comments on this talk page. Please notice that he has made some good edits, so I don't think he is a vandal. --Enric Naval (talk) 16:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick point

"I'am not at all into soft genres. I think the worst genre ever is Folk, and the only folk band I've ever heard of is The Wailin Jennys."

How does that make sense? you dont like folk, and you've only ever listened to one folk band :P.

It's not a criticism, just found something amusing. I've sent Altaileopard a message asking him to be nicer and not make personal attacks; my apologies that you got that kind of reaction from an established wiki-editor :). Ironholds (talk)

Sorry if I was a bit unfriendly, but there are a lot of nasty users and IPs in the engl. wiki, which try destroy correct informations. It is not always fun to check every week hundreds of edits and find out for every new user if he is a vandal or only unprofessional. --Altaileopard (talk) 14:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

TO ALTAILEOPARD

BLOW, BLAST, BOTHER, AND BLAST AGAIN!!!!! Why does everybody think '9' is so young??!!!!!! Yes, I was just about to go right round the bend with that reply you shot at me that day, Altaileopard, but I guess I can exept your apoligy. (What I'm about to say is kind of a joke) I guess that your little 'punishment' that you got was me sending Ironholds and Enric Naval to stop you (I didn't really do that, they actually did it themselves, but they were kind of helping me out, so I'm just putting it that way, and adding a battal-like twist). Oh, and I forgot that actually I'm 9 1/2, not 9. Oh, and once again, can I just call you The leopard for short? Once again, have fun being a 'special' wikipedian! The Shadow-Fighter (talk) 21:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

June 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Foo Fighters, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. ScarianCall me Pat! 07:24, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

JUST A QUICK QUESTION

I am now starting to understand what a reference is and how to make one. But there's just one problem: There's this edit I made on Carcharodontosaurus that I want to reference from a book I read about Tyrannosaurs, but it was a Library book that I returned and now I can't remember the name of the book! So I didn't make a reference, but, as you guys said, I should make a reference for every Major edit I make (but Minor edits don't count, right?). So what should I do? I was going to ask my Dad, AdRock, but I thought I should ask wikipedia experts like you guys. Right back and tell me what do when you have the time. P.S. I don't care who rights back. The Shadow-Fighter (talk) 20:36, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits to the sizes of tyrannosaurs and carcharodontosaurs

Hello, Shadow-Fighter;

Three or four different editors (depending on the article) have been reverting your recent changes to sizes to tyrannosaurs and carcharodontosaurs. You seem to be getting hung up on this point, but it's not necessary. We have sourced sizes in place, based on the current state of knowledge, but more importantly, the sizes include qualifications, such as range of lengths, "estimated", or "roughly". There is a lot of variation in animal size, so it's misleading to put detailed comparisons to Tyrannosaurus in the Carcharodontosaurus article, for example. We'll never know the exact range of size for any extinct animal; we only have a handful of specimens to go on, and at this point it's most fair to say that Carcharodontosaurus appears to be as large or slightly larger than Tyrannosaurus, and leave it at that. Thank you for your time! J. Spencer (talk) 00:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


TO J. SPENCER AND OTHER WIKIPEDIA EXPERTS

Hey, J. Spencer! I think that Tyrannosaurus is bigger than Carcharodontosaurus because, like I said on my last note, I read a book about Tyrannosaurs that said Carcharodontosaurus was smaller than T. Rex, and either way, Tyrannosaurus was much, much heavier and more well known, that's for sure. And, like I said on my last note, I tried to reference it but there's Good news and Bad news: The Good news is that I remember the name of the book now (it's called Tyrannosaurs). But the Bad news is that I still can't remember the name of the auther!!!! What should I do? You're the one who nows all about wikipedia and referencing, so do you think you could tell me what to do in that case? Altaileopard, Enric Naval, Ironholds, Postdlf, and the others, you're welcome to tell me too, of course. By the way, Altaileopard, if you're from Germany, have you ever heard of Rammstein? See ya! The Shadow-Fighter (talk) 11:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I ran a Google book search on that title; I didn't get any hits on that exact title, but I did get this. Is it this book? J. Spencer (talk) 23:31, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding this edit that you have re-inserted: [1]. Thank you for your efforts to improve Wikipedia, but Sperm whales are not rorquals, or even baleen whales. Your statements about the relative size of Sperm Whales at the end of a sentence comparing the sizes of rorquals is about as relevant as a comparison between a rhinocerous and a zebra. The point of the sentence is not to compare the size of Sei Whales to every other animal, or even to every other marine mammal, it is to compare it to other members of the Balaenopteridae family, to which Sperm Whales are not related. Neil916 (Talk) 21:59, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]



I CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING

Yes, I can see what you're saying, Neil916. I knew that sperm whales are defenetly not baleen whales before you metioned that they're not baleen whales. You see, I have a weird problem with eyesight: When there are things that are right in front of me, I don't see them. It's nothing major, it's just something I've noticed. I guess I didn't notice it saying, "The sei whale is the third largest of all baleen whales, after the Blue Whale and Fin Whale". And I can admit that Sei whales are the third largest baleen whales, but I do lots and lots of reserch on sperm whales and found out that some sperm whales, but not all sperm whales, are larger than sei whales. And for the billionth time, what do I do if I'm referencing something with a book, but I can't remember the name of the book? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease tell me as soon as you can. See 'ya!! The Shadow-Fighter (talk) 19:03, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I have reverted your good faith edits to Crush 40. Please don't add uncited material to a Good Article. Wikipedia's policy is verifiability, not truth, and if you want to add something, please add material sourced with a reliable source. Thank you. Red Phoenix flame of life...protector of all... 14:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I REMEMBER NOW!

I now remember the name of the dinosaur book that I need for referencing. It's not called Tyrannosaurs like I said before. It's called Dinosaurs, and the auther is Paul Willis. The thing is, I know how to reference sites and stuff like that, but how do you reference a book? I'm confused, and I need your help. Just a quick point!! The Shadow-Fighter (talk) 18:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Template:Cite book has the template. You just put the information in the appropriate field and the template takes care of the rest, if done properly. J. Spencer (talk) 23:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DELETED PAGES

Hi! Thanks for the info, J. Spencer. As you know, my favorite band, The Offspring, has had a few songs that have been deleted (The Meaning of Life and Kick Him When He's Down). Both deleted by Philippe. You see, I have no idea at all 24-7 why people do that! No offense, but I kind of hate it when people do that. This also goes for that picture of Animal face-off that was as well deleted. The one that I really want to be re-created is The Meaning of Life. I want The Meaning of Life re-created because I wanted to look at it again. I really feel strongly that pages shouldn't be deleted and/or should be re-created soon. Could you tell me why people do that? It kind of bugs me out. Just wanted to let you know! The Shadow-Fighter (talk) 21:51, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, people do it usually because the thing is not notable. I guess they have a point, but it really pisses me off. One time I worked my ass off on a song called "QWERTY" by Linkin Park, and it got turned into a redirect right away, and it was protected so no one could create the page again. Any similar experiences? Tezkag72 (talk) 18:19, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bad Habit (song)

Please stop restoring this page. It's been redirected per an AFD discussion. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 15:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

August 2008

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to List of SpongeBob SquarePants characters. The complete reversion of the page and addition of further in-universe cruft was not necessary. Thanks. Beemer69 chitchat 16:33, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya, I notice you changed the album-sales figure in this article, without updating any sources. There are three citations next to the number that say 80 million albums sold, if you cannot find sources for a new number please don't change it. Thanks! ~ mazca t | c 18:56, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I can see what you're saying. I changed the album sales of Iron Maiden because the first time I looked it up on Wikipedia, it had said that they had sold 100 million albums, not 80 million. And I have also noticed that with many bands (including The Offspring, Green Day, Metallica and Limp Bizkit) have had album sales that go up every now and then. And the sales of Iron Maiden just went down. And also, the album sales of Iron Maiden that said 100 million albums sold was sourced, but I just couldn't remember what it was, and Black Sabbath has been said to have sold over 100 million albums worldwide, and it doesn't say anything on the article saying they are one of the most popular heavy metal bands. It's all really confusing. If you get the chance, please wright back and tell me your reply to my note. Seya! The Shadow-Fighter (talk) 19:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, you're right that the number did go down - it used to be 100 million but it turned out that the source that came from was guessing, if I recall right. All the ones that seem reliable say 80 million, and I don't think that number's likely to go up too much - at least until they release a new album! I'm certainly looking forward to that. Thanks for the response! ~ mazca t | c 20:32, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Jet (as you like to be called)

Dada here. I've just read these recent comments from other users, and again, I agree with them; I also have to say that some of the changes they refer to come dangerously close to being the kind of substantive edits that we agreed you are not to make--reverting a page is not a minor edit! Also, it is almost impossible to change a number (like album sales) and have it be a minor edit--anything like that needs a citation.

However, your response to Mazca was articulate and measured, so good job there.

One other thing about these discussion pages--you don't have to start a new section when you respond to somebody, like by creating a ==new section heading==. All you have to do is start a new paragraph, and indent it using a colon (:).

Like this. (Look at the edit page to see what I mean.)

Then, every time somebody responds to the same topic, they can add another colon.

Like this
and like this
and so on...

Anyway. I've already edited your above response to Mazca to make it match this format.

Whenever I talk to you on here, by the way, you can feel free to delete my whole entry after you're done reading it. (And for that matter, if this page gets too long, you could delete large portions of it, and they would still be available in the history.)

See ya! AdRock (talk) 02:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Red-handed

I found an explanation for this... —Preceding unsigned comment added by AdRock (talkcontribs) 14:21, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

nazi punk

Hi Shadow-Fighter, I was wondering why you have Nazi punk listed as one of your genres. It doesn't seem to fit with the others. best, Aryder779 (talk) 22:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


The Nazi punk thing

You're definatly right on that, Aryder799. I only put Nazi punk on my genres list because it was related to a subgenre of Oi! and Heavy metal called hatecore. And since I'm really into subgenres of Punk metal (metalcore, grunge, crossover thrash, grindcore, etc.), I thought nazi punk would work. Also, I just mainly pick random subgenres of punk and metal that I haven't even listened to yet for no reason! It's just kinda my thing. See'ya! The Shadow-Fighter (talk) 19:36, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]