User talk:Scottfisher

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If you wish to contribute, please try and spend some time learning Wiki style. Please Scotty …

HOW YOU CAN HELP Hurricane Katrina victims

American RED CROSS Presently gettin' remnants here of the hurricane, there is a tornado and flood watch now, and all the United States Army , National guard is in Iraq and Afghanistan. Have not heard from Bush. New Orleans and Alabama and Mississippi really got it bad. Where are all the countries the USA helps? I guess they are still looking for free hand-outs. Caio~ Scott 12:32:53, 2005-08-30 (UTC)

Image:Einstein.jpg

What's the source information on the above picture? I haven't seen it before and find it difficult to believe the whole thing is PD-USGov (the photo looks like a wire photo). --Fastfission 04:40, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Fastfission!

I was hoping we could converse some day, as I noticed we've been in some of the same places on Wikipedia and also looked at your profile/ Etc..

"Glad to meet you, For sure."
Anyway, the source of the Einstein pic and text is a freebie that lays on the ORNL Visitors center. It just lays there on the counter, multiple copies for people to pick up.

I seriously could not believe anyone had not uploaded it to the Einstein page as I thought it would be a great addition. ....

Comments or suggestions are always welcome.

Do you think I tagged it right? I hope so. It really is about Einstein sending a letter to Roosevelt about making the bomb. Hope it is in the right location on the page. Scotty....

Hi Scotty, sorry I haven't written back to you get. One page you might find fun that needs a lot of work is List of nuclear tests. Best, --Fastfission 21:46, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Roger that will do that sir, Have a few errands to do tonight and won't be back until late tommorrow. I will look at it. PS: Got my picture taken with teller before he passed on [1] Caio Scott

19:40 EST. Fast Fission

Fast fission, I looked at the page and must say it is confusing, especially with the grid system, however it does have very useful information, in my opinion. Like the pics. Info good. Now I must admit here I am not that good with the code like that. However, I think possibility of someone here on Wikipedia exists to do whatever you feel needs to be done on List of nuclear tests. As always.... it's just a time thing. Would you recommend we put a tag on it saying needs clean up? With a message of what needs done? Your opinion is valued.

PS; My older brother worked at the test site before it kinda closed down. Non nuclear proliferation/ EGG Still lives in Vegas.

Scott 00:02:59, 2005-09-11 (UTC)

The Einstein featured Wikipedia Article!

Barbara Shack 17:34, 10 September 2005 (UTC)Someone edited the material about autism out of the Albert Einstein article again. I've restored it and asked for an explanation. If this persists it looks to me like vandalism.[reply]

::I agree, with your comments Miss Shack on Aspergers syndrome. I understand your frustration completely. I see and remember spotting the same revert.

::I left a note for 206.53.17.160 at Einstein talk. I suspect this alias will continue, as I've seen in the past on other non sign in users.

::Most sorry to get back with you so late here. Been busy running around getting pictures of things for Wikipedia and self. I will keep a watch more closely to attempt to help. "Please Keep in touch".

::Regards Scott 23:01:13, 2005-09-10 (UTC)

AT description in PA

- I'm sorry, I just thought that most people wouldn't find the description in terms of county lines very helpful, since most people don't know where the county lines run. I have never done the AT through PA-- I was just working from a map. You're free to change it any way you like. I'm just trying to help make it clear to folks. -- Mwanner 02:19, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

Not a problem, I thank-you for the good job of reminding me the extension of the AT in Pennsylvania. I guess I'm thinking of what I know to add, and may be was too focused. I'll send this topic to your web discussion page also. Thanks again. Keep in touch.

Scott 13:00:28, 2005-09-06 (UTC)

ImageVio?

Hi Scotty. Image:Pottsville pa.jpg has become overdue for treatment in Wikipedia:Copyright problems so I will deal with it separately, if I may. This image is bit-for-bit identical to http://www.coalregion.com/images/pottsville.jpg - you cannot deny the fact. So. If you took it, how did it get on to the coalregion website - did you give it to them, if so why don't they credit you with it?

With regard to all the images you have uploaded and which are of doubtful origin, I am quite prepared to believe that you have had them on your machine for some time and have genuinely forgotten where they came from. I know I have lots of picture like that! The fact that your version of image:NECHO ALLEN PIC.jpg was on the web but is not there now confirms this theory. So, please, examine your conscience and for each of the disputed ones, ask yourself "did I really take that picture".

::Yes Roger, I took the liberty to delete it because of the double whammy you stated on your discussion page

::Roger, As always value your words of wisdom and judgement. File:Gavel.gif

There was a telly program called In Bed with Medinner with the running gag that the presenter Bob Mills pretended that he had made every one of the amusing clips that he showed. (No hint. No innuendo. I just happened to remember it.) -- RHaworth 14:05:26, 2005-09-08 (UTC)

What were you doing up so late last night? LOL Scott 19:52:28, 2005-09-08 (UTC)

RE:Images

Hello Scott. I've tagged the postcards simply due to the fact they're listed on WP:PUI. Thirty days are allowed for anyone to come forward with copyright information about the image(s) and then they're tagged and sourced accordingly and removed from WP:PUI. Although it's not stressed enough, the simple fact is that it's down to the uploader themselves to provide copyright information about the images and when the 30 days are up, the admin working on WP:PUI may take the time to try and find some more info. about the image, but isn't required to and may delete the image if there has been no copyright information added.

That aside, it would be interesting to know when those postcards were produced - if before 1925, I believe it would be in the public domain in the US. However, if you bought them at a shop in the '60s, I'd suggest marking them as copyrighted under fairuse and putting a note on the image description page just saying that you uploaded them from your collection. However, if the building(s) still exists, an ever better idea would be to trot along to the building(s) itself and take a picture, then upload it and release under GFDL, otherwise a postcard of the building would not fall under fairuse.

I hope I've helped. Thanks Craigy File:Uk flag large.png (talk) 01:38, September 9, 2005 (UTC)

Hi Craig

Yes, I believe you are being fair enough. I understand what you are saying.

I have come forward to claim these are sentimental to any one from the area as it is my hometown and heritage, as I look at the history of Pottsville, Pennsylvania on Wikipedia, an encyclopedia.

All the pictures of the following are historical post cards that were purchased in the early sixties at the five and dime. Again to the best of my knowledge; :Take picture Image:Pottsville.jpg

This is evident it is a postcard, produced in the 50's or 60's ,and to the best of my knowledge not produced anymore. Notice the way all these picture postcards had a type of color brush to them. The first of color on postcards I suspect.

Also, Image:Old silk mill 12th and Laural Street.jpg building is still there empty It is evident also it is from a postcard. The old Pottsville train station no longer exists and was ripped down in the early sixties This also is a postcard not made anymore. Image:Tumbling run.jpg Also evident as a postcard and no longer in existence.

Image:NECHOallanhotel.jpg Also a postcard and not in existance, The building is still there and has been converted to an old folks home.

(The Necho Allen hotel) It is a very historical building. written about in John O'Hara novels.

Strangely enough, Image:NECHO ALLEN PIC.jpg

This was just tagged as being OK yesterday by Mr Nick Boalch See: User:Ngb So now it's retagged as a deletion today? Strange.

Bottom line; I plead with you not to delete these historical pictures, and please consider. Whatever it takes to keep them on, I'm game for doing so. The pics need to stay now.

As for taking pictures, The hometown is much to far away from where I'm located now, only my parents graves are there.

A second note is the mis-template on the page, by Boothy443, I know there is no city flag. flag, upper right template for the city of Pottsvilleand do not know how to remove it. Can you help on this?

Well, I must hit the sack, getting late here, and hope you get this message. Let me know what tag to use and I'll change it to meet any standards of Wikipedia.

Let's build a good encyclopedia. Thanks again, Scott 03:09:58, 2005-09-09 (UTC)

Regarding The pictures of Pottsville, Pennsylvania

and Schuylkill county, Pennsylvania

Hello All

I for one would like to see this material remain on the site. Links to our past are important. Someone has gone through a great deal of effort to save and collect this information and I feel that it should continue to be accessible to the people who care about Pottsville’s past.

Thank you, Jim Zendrosky

Necho Allen

No worries. Looks like a reasonably cast-iron case of fair use to me. (It's conceivable, given that it was painted in 1927, that {{PD-art-life-50}} applies too -- can you clarify when the artist died? --Ngb^?!? 07:55, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Nick,

I cannot confirm when the artist passed on. I only remember as a kid the huge painting hanging at the top of the steps in the lobby of the historical Necho Allen hotel John O'Hara wrote about in Pottsville, Pennsylvania Thanks Scott 11:02:26, 2005-09-09 (UTC)

You're welcome

Glad to help out, I do a lot of vandalism patrol...were those edits the ones with the cell phone numbers? Anyway, thanks again. I'm not sure where that Brugge edit came from, I thought maybe it was you when you were logged out. Talk to you later! Rx StrangeLove 04:49, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If I remember correctly it was smell or something and a big deletion of my friend Rogers page.....Here it is

:What's a Brugge edit? You the man, I can sleep tonight knowing we are well guarded. Cheers Scott 06:01:38, 2005-09-10 (UTC)

Capacitor definition reversion

Could you please tell me your reason for reverting my edit to the defn of capacitor. I thought my version flowed much better than the original and removed the bracketed statement which diverts the readers attention.--Light current 17:12, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Light current

What I did, on Electricity see history was moved your excellent work to a more appropriate place atElectronics See CAD-CAM. I also added a few words.

Also, to keep you informed please see discussion at Electronic As you can see not really any change at Capacitor Athough it use to be called a condensor here in the USA. Scott 00:32:24, 2005-09-12 (UTC)

Zap!

You're wondering why I mentioned "zapping" something? That day, or just before, there was a controversial suggestion made, as an alternative to deletion, called Wikipedia:Zap. It suggests that, instead of deleting things, we redirect them to the sandbox. It caused quite a stir; see Wikipedia talk:Zap and Wikipedia:Miscellaneous deletion/Wikipedia:Zap as well as the archives of User talk:Xiong. It was immediately decried as a bad idea, by almost every editor who said something about it.

Some people played around with zapping things like some User: pages to demonstrate the point that it isn't a particularly good idea (in their view); and caused a bit of a stir in the process. So I was jokingly pointing out that if AmbushCommander had 'zapped' the admin's notice board...well...you can imagine! -Splash 00:41, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Got ya, understand. Oh boy. LOL (Hang in there!) Thanks Scott 01:02:13, 2005-09-13 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the congratulations on my RFA, I hope I'm worthy of everyone's support! And your day will come, no big deal....take care! Rx StrangeLove 02:50, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I remember a time you helped me w/ VANDALISM REALLY FAST StrangeLove, Again way to go! Lucky dog! Scott 02:56, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Revenge

You sent me this pic. So now you can enjoy this one. -- RHaworth 03:01, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There is a page waiting for the pictures like this on Wikipedia, as I think this one could very well be a copy vio before hand. LOL Scott 15:58, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ltin symbols for editing

(responding to Talk:SI electromagnetism units) Remember how to write π ? + When I forget, I check + Wikipedia:How to edit a page#Character_formatting + ( π is in the "Greek characters" section). + --DavidCary 05:56, 20 September 2005 (UTC) +[reply]

Perfect and bookmarked! That helps me, Thanks Dave. Scott 12:49, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

POTW

Kindly refrain from using deprecated HTML in articles - it breaks Wikipedia and causes problems for some people with disabilities. Thank you. Andy Mabbett 11:54, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Everything seems to work in the HTML Mr. Andy, Don't know what you are talking about.

Kindly I ask you to either add some useful information/ text or whatever, to make Wikipedia a more useful tool and/ or add your own pics rather than deleting mine by damage. Try it, you may like it. It's more fun! Thank-You Scott 18:57, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Don't know what you are talking about. So it would seem :-( Andy Mabbett 14:18, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

Scott, I have now indefinitely blocked you to prevent you doing any further damage. I have no-idea as to what pushed you over the edge, if you leave details here I, or others, will try to help. It seems to me that you have invested a lot of time, and made some excellent contributions, here. If you calm down, and wish to return to sensible editing then please leave a note here, or e-mail me or another admin, and we will unblock you. --Doc (?) 17:30, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No thanks, not interested Scott 19:24, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My trip experience to the box

Thanks Doc! That was interesting, LOL Have fun!Scott 16:16, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Can you edit now, I'm not sure if my unblock worked? --Doc (?) 16:26, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You have mistakenly recreated your user page in the article space - I will delete it for you. --Doc (?) 16:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC) This is too much, LOL Scott 19:12, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Doc, Yes, Just so you know though when your blocked the only contact to Wkipedia you have in that world is the person who blocked you via EMAIL. No contact to anyone else..... I think I'm OK now...But I will let you know so you can watch what triggered me. Scott 16:50, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

POTW

Mr Andy- Alias Pigsonthewings; It is evident you've had more problems in the past than I'll ever have and you know it. You really want to be sneaky and staulk on wikipedia rather than contribute. People have tried to talk to you in the past and you seem to want to show a power thing or something. Not sure what your real problem is with good editors. If you wish I will post the evidence here now as I made a good effort to comprimise with you as others have:

1)Your user page
2)Scroll to bottom

3)POTW user page-this one is a real shame

4)POTW

5)==Mig/POTW==

6)You also removed several other items. Frankly, given your recent behaviour, and the above ludicrous and fallacious allegation, I'm not really interested in hearing your personal opinions, nor your threats. Andy Mabbett 11:32, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
7)[See Ok, Andy Mabbett and Brumburger are following my every move on wikipedia and they are tracing my IP addresses. No different Nick Boulevard 16:31, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nick_Boulevard]
8) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nick_Boulevard&action=edit&section=4 See Pigsonthewing Hi Nick, I've been having the same problems as you I think. I've decided to move away from the wikipedia page but I still think something needs to be done about Andy Mabbett. I hope you'll agree that the problem is not what Pigsonthewing does for the wikipedia, which is of reasonable quality, but the following:

Stalking. He will target work by specific users instead of finding new articles to work on. this happened to me, and I think has also happened to you. Obsessive. Once he has made an edit he will watch the page, and revert any changes made. He gets involved in revision wars all the time. Once he has made his mind up nobody else gets a lookin. Rude. His comments in the revision section are very snide. After you have reseached something to have it described as irrelavant hurts. Destructive. He removes from the wikipedia much more than he puts in. I think it's very easy to beleive the internet is a kind of bubble, however he should realise he is interacting with real people and we all do it as a kind of therapy, as a kind of entertainment- we do it because we enjoy it! His work is not of low quality- rather his behavior is deliberatly anti-social- he obviously enjoys putting people's noses out of joint. If you want someone to join in a test case for this I would be willing to contribute. I don't think he should be banned, but certainly I think his brand of abusive, bullying behaviour should be frowned upon by wikipedia as strongly as 'peacock terms' or 'copy violations'. Leonig Mig 18:33, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) Just shameful! Letting things go Nick: Please would you disregard any accusations or criticisms that Andy, Brumberger, or Ray may level against you, however unfair. If we could all focus on the articles instead of the editors we can all spend more time building the encyclopedia.—Theo (Talk) 19:12, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
9)http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nick_Boulevard&action=edit&section=7 A negative response attempting to create a more sense of aggrevation: Ok, no probs. Nick Boulevard 21:51, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC) That lasted about 22 hours - and one edit. [1]. Andy Mabbett 19:20, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC) Get over it Andy, concentrate on other things and your/our time here will be much more rewarding. Nick Boulevard 22:45, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)]

I also think he might have multiple alias's. Scott 21:12, 26 September 2005 (UTC) 10)*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:G-Man/POTW_RFC Previous message on user sight/ Pigsonthewing (Andy Mabbett) makes frequent and aggressive use of repeated reversion and engages in edit wars, sometimes reverting unvandalised user pages. These are often part of continuing personal conflicts with other (albeit not blameless) individual editors. These reversions are often not explained (simply "rv") or explained with apparent hostility: pointed, snide or dismissive remarks. Discussion of these reversions is often frustrating and fruitless as his answers are most frequently no longer than one line. The repeated reversion of articles combined with the hostile summaries leads to ill-feeling, which spreads to talk pages, where the same pattern of aggressive reversion is combined with aggressive commentary, which hinders discussion. This combination of reversion and aggression on user pages is particularly inflammatory; it largely arises when Pigsonthewing dissagrees with a comment about him or his behaviour. Several editors believe that some of these reversions arise from Pigsonthewing's systematic stalking of all their edits and that this stalking is a form of harassment. ][reply]

POTW problems in the past

Cease and desist making personal atatcks. Andy Mabbett 21:46, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Andy, Go on, people have attempted to talk with you before and you just continued to give them a hard time. (Innocent and good editors). Think about it, please for your own good. Thanks Scott 21:55, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Cease and desist making personal attacks. Andy Mabbett 22:29, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Do you mean attack? Look at your past pal...Go on...Many innocent and well contributing people you have attacked, Try and get along or find something useful to do.Scott 23:12, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Cease and desist making personal attacks. Andy Mabbett 22:29, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Just ignore Andy's intimidation, Scott. He'll find someone else's edits to stalk if you stop responding to him. Andy, I see no evidence of personal attacks in Scott's reproduction of already existing material on Wikipedia, nor in his comments in this section. Unless 'find something useful to do' can be construed as a personal attack. Proto t c 11:39, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There is no intimidation by me, and to suggest otherwise is PoV; cease making peraonal attacks yourself. You won't see what you don't look for. Andy Mabbett 14:54, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Andy, despite nothing I said being aimed at you, I will respond. I have made no personal attacks. I am trying to defuse the situation. And you do know that PoV only applies to articles, not user talk pages, right? Proto t c 15:11, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have made no personal attacks. That'as a lie. PoV only applies to articles, not user talk pages If you say so. HTH: There is no intimidation by me, and to suggest otherwise is a bare-faced lie; cease making peraonal attacks yourself. Andy Mabbett 15:34, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Proto, you are right, maybe he'll find an interest in Roger Waters new album coming out today around Rome or something Thanks Scott 14:50, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying not to be dragged into this, but I'll make a comment for the record. I don't care what Andy Mabbett has been accused of in the past. My view on the current situation I encountered is that the edits/deletions (which were supported by other users) of Scott's contributions were directed at breaches of Wikipedia guidelines: non-standard HTML and inline multimedia links; links to fannish unencyclopedic material ("Burt is a personal friend of mine, and he even signed the pic for me. He must like it, why do you not? I see you don't have his status") at a personal website; and use of images of unverified source that fall foul of the new image rules.

Scott's reaction to edits has been bizarre: on criticism, he took offense and tried to pull down every page to which he has contributed, and had to be temporarily blocked for vandalism (on my request).

I don't perceive this as a case of persecution: it's a case of over-reaction to utterly justified edits. Tearlach 23:53, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, you got it, It's been explained to you, even about turning into Yahoo board ; Thanks again, and now it's time for all to try and move on, and do what we all do best, soldier. File:Gavel.gif Scott 00:33, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This ones for you Tearlach

Please read the instruction first before clicking the website:! The falling woman Note: When she gets stuck, left click and drag her free... Someone did an amazing job with this. I know two things about him:

1. This is a person with too much time on his hands.

2. This geek knows how to model physics Scott 00:33, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Invalid HTML

Since it seems that POTW never bothered to explain what he was talking about, let me see if I can help. Wikipedia pages are not written in HTML, but rather XHTML (which is a newer XML-compliant version of HTML). A lot of the old HTML tags are not valid in XHTML. These include FONT, CENTER, and a slew of others. Your browser may still render things as you expect, but technically the page is no longer valid XHTML (and will break anything that expects valid XHTML). In general it is best to avoid using any HTML in Wikipedia pages at all. If you need to make something bold or italic, use the wikimarkup instead. Hope that helps. Kaldari 14:53, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Since it seems that POTW never bothered to explain what he was talking about I did. HTH. Andy Mabbett 15:02, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I recall Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Don't get fancy being quoted. I don't see what's unclear about that. Tearlach 00:11, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Kaldari Yep, I see, understood here. Thanks Scott 22:24, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Pottsville pa.jpg

On image Image:Pottsville pa.jpg you put a tag that said "I took the picture from the Claude A Lourde Blvd. State Route 61." Do you know how the image ended up on www.coalregion.com? --Thanks Nv8200p (talk) 18:12, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Nv8200p sometimes pictures or a picture you delete can go to multiple/ other articles, I saw you deleted them. I'll check it out. Be cautious If you need my help let me know Thanks Scott 18:15, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Nv8200p; Not sure looks fine to me, have fun with deletions Thanks, Scott 18:19, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

beamline article

Hi scott. There was already a beamline article, although your new beam line article looks better than it does. In any case, the two probably ought to be merged--since you know more than me on the subject, it makes sense for you to do it if you have the chance. -- SCZenz 06:01, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

SCZenz

Yikes did not know that, Blush; I'll have to look at it sometime later today....busy day today, and help merge or do what ever, as you said. Might need your opinion/ help expertise later....Thanks Scott 11:17, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hex signs

I've listed a page you created, Hex signs, as a potential copyright violation. Please explain if you have permission to reproduce the material from that source. Have you created any other pages by copying material directly from external sources? Andy Mabbett 11:42, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You don't seem to have responded to this, yet. Andy Mabbett 18:14, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to help

Hi Scott. Helping out with merging articles is no biggie, and usually requires more cutting-and-pasting than technical expertise. ;) If you insist on feeling grateful, I could mention that I'm thinking of applying to be an admin in the not-too-distant future; your support there would certainly be welcome. -- SCZenz 14:20, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree you should be an admin, and absolutely! Funny last night I gave it the same thought for you to be an admin but wasn't sure on how to nominate you. I will look into it today sometime Scott 14:30, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'd be honored if you want to nominate me. Can you wait a short while to see if anyone on Wikiproject:Physics has any comments? See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Physics#In-House_Admin -- SCZenz 17:24, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely, let me know when @ your convenience, Been a real pleasure. Scott 17:37, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hazel O Leary and other pictures

I've marked Image:Hazel O Leary fisher.jpg as having no source - you calim to be the creator of the image, yet seem to appear in it. Please explain. Andy Mabbett 19:10, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I note that you have removed the "nosource" tag from that image, yet have not commented here. Please do so. Andy Mabbett 21:00, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I note that you have done so again, yet have still to respond here, or to justify your reversion. Please do so. Andy Mabbett 21:58, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pigsonthewing's reverts

Hi Scott, I can tell that User:Pigsonthewing has been (and is being) a real ass to you. In the case in beamline, he's clearly pushing your buttons--but his edit isn't wrong, and isn't enough to worry about. If I may give a word of advice, let it go this time; fight him only when it's obvious to everyone he's being truly obnoxious. -- SCZenz 21:14, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]