Talk:Mark Mangino

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I removed the player and 2 game accomplishments, they are too fan-like informational tidbits. They might be able to be added back under a different context, but accomplishments that are only recognized by Mangino's fans are hard to be seen as unbiased information. National Championships, Bowl Games, All Americans, etc. would be appropriate. --Radioshack 21:37, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's not POV to list accomplishments that any bio of Mangino will list. The streak versus Nebraska was national news as it was (at the time) the second-longest such streak between any two teams (Navy vs. Notre Dame was first). Coaching an All-American is also notable for a program at Kansas's level. Is there a way this obviously verifiable information could be included alongside some other information that would satisfy your concerns about the NPOV rule?
- I quantified the defense statement. --Radioshack 00:05, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's probably not reasonable to cite my edit summaries as "proof" that the inclusion of the information violates NPOV either - consider if the creator of the September 11 attacks had left a comment like "what a horrible act" - would the information still not be verifiable and encyclopedic? ESkog | ^Talk 23:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The edit summary was support, not proof. The 9/11 example is extreme. --Radioshack 00:05, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The page as it exists now looks like a good compromise. Thanks. ESkog | ^Talk 00:13, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fat man

I have the accurate weight for Mangino, 450 pounds. HE IS FAT! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.154.208.53 (talk) 04:20, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Mangenius"

I removed this alias in the lead because no news article refers to Mangino as "the mangenius". A Google News search verifies this. It looks like only forums and blogs (very few of them, in fact) call him "the mangenius", according to this Google search. I don't think this is sufficient to add that he is "sometimes called the mangenius" to the article. BlueAg09 (Talk) 16:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IP edits

i cant tell if these IP edits are vandalism anymore or if they are updating the stats. before it was obvious, now not so much without researching. Matthew Brandon Yeager 07:40, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

Anyone have one? We all find it hysterical to look at him. Plus he deserves one. --HPJoker (talk) 06:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Finish in division

It is inaccurate to state that Mangino's 2007 team finished 2nd in the Big XII North. Missouri and Kansas both finished 7-1, and the conference does not break ties when awarding division championships; thus, both teams tied for first place. (ESkog)^(Talk) 13:21, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An additional source is here: [1] - see page 9 for the Big 12's official statement that KU claimed a share of the division title. I don't want to link it in the article since the link will die when the next "weekly" release comes out sometime in the offseason. (ESkog)^(Talk) 21:18, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I deteled the blue line from the 2007 season. Call it a tie if you want, (which is BS), but don't call it a division championship. KU didn't play in the championship game, how can they be champions of their division? Call it a tie, fine. Look at the Bill Snyder page. in 1999, K-State tied with Nebraska for the north, but lost head to head. It's tie, not a divsion championship.Topgun530 (talk) 21:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Per the BIg 12, the governing factor in the matter. KU was divisional Co-Champion. The post-season has no bearing on the regular season. This would be like saying in basketball that the regular season co-champ wasn't champ because they didn't get the #1 seed in the big 12 tournament, and yet everyone recognizes regular season co-championships in basketball. There shouldn't be a double standard. When it comes down to it, it is the decision of the NCAA, and they say KU was co-division champ, so that should be reflected here. If removing it from the KU page, then it should be removed from the MU page as well Ryan2845 (talk) 21:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The new section

The new section that goes into long detail about the previous season is way, way too long and it is filled with personal commentary of a particular Wikipedian. It needs to be trimmed down and made more professional sounding.--InaMaka (talk) 23:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]