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help with wind generator article

Hi Gwen, I did read through, yes. I'll try to get some better coverage so I can post a more comprehensive article. Thanks.

Btw - looks like while posting this reply i've done something silly - it appears i've mistakenly created this page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hi...&action=edit - would you please delete it? thanks. I'm yet to get used to the posting interface; although I've used wikipedia for a lot of useful info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wherrelz (talk • contribs) 14:33, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Smoki People

A google search gets about 107,000 hits on the Smoki People and the Smoki Museum they created - which exits til this day.

I'd say that's enough to be included in Wikipedia.

EoGuy (talk) 18:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)EoGuy[reply]

Hardly 107,000 hits, more like less than a thousand for the string "Smoki People." The article is a CSD A7, carrying no assertion of significance or importance, was so tagged by one editor and deleted by me.

Please read this page, then see what you can do about fixing the text and citing some sources, I've put the article at User:EoGuy/sandbox, you can put it back in the article space when it's ready. Cheers, Gwen Gale (talk) 18:24, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Message to Garcia

Mr. Garcia is entering into 3RR status on Sarah Palin (sigh). With full force and vigor. A word or action from you might spare him worse from others. Thanks. Collect (talk) 23:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just want to go on record, I reverted User:RafaelRGarcia and while I don't agree with him i'm no longer confident in my revert.--Cube lurker (talk) 00:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't matter, he should know by now not to edit war, much less on BLPs, it only stirs editors up and yes, as happened here, can cause them to make mistakes whilst coping with it. Oh and for the record (given his comment in his unblock request), I had not a clue what "side" he was editing from, I only tallied up the reverts and read the edit summaries. Gwen Gale (talk) 00:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. I note Garcia claims you have actively edited in Sarah Palin though I thought I knew about all the active editors there by now (having read all the archives in a masochistic frenzy). Collect (talk) 00:59, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd forgotten about the single edit I made to the article on 29 August (restoring deleted, sourced content) when she got famous and I was watching the article following a request on ANI to do so, about 6 weeks and 8-9,000 edits ago. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's certainly enough to get you burned at the stake as a witch. Dayewalker (talk) 01:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

C'est quatre ans depuis ma dernière visite à Rouen, au moins :) Gwen Gale (talk) 01:15, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I had not realized I was on the road to ruin. (ducking) Collect (talk) 01:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! Ain't heard that one in donkeys' years :P Gwen Gale (talk) 01:37, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is only one block of four edits in a row by RafaelRGarcia. One of the four is this. As you can plainly see, it is in no way a revert. I bring your attention to WP:3RR: "A revert is any action, including administrative actions, that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part. Consecutive reverts by one user with no intervening edits by another user count as one revert. (This differs from the definition of "revert" used elsewhere in the project.)". Unblock Garcia immediately, as per WP:3RR. I suggest an apology is in order. (copy edited to Garcia talk) Anarchangel (talk) 01:21, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I counted 6 reverts in only 3 hours. I did not count "consecutive reverts." At 23:59, 23:55, 23:48, 23:45, 23:42 and 22:05. Non-consecutive. I think six is a higher number than 3, and 3 hours is less than 24? If I recall correctly, you have been very active in Sarah Palin? Collect (talk) 01:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are mistaken, see "Golden Flurry" on the Discussion page of Sarah Palin. Anarchangel (talk) 01:43, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

These do not include the 5th revert which he took back. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I should also say, I stopped counting after I found these, there could indeed be more. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:32, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You say you "did not count consecutive reverts". So I take it you are backing off from your position that you blocked him under WP:3RR. An apology for having invoked that rule misleadingly might perhaps be more in order, to say nothing of amending the block on his talk page. The wording is quite specific, and does not allow wiggle room as in mass number of edits; if they are not consecutive, it is not WP:3RR.

You might also want to consider how many of the six edits were in fact reverts. My diff shows the insertion of a comma. I think you would have a hard time convincing anyone that that counts as a revert. Anarchangel (talk) 01:43, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The four reverts I listed above show a lot more than a comma and it was for those four reverts that he was blocked for 3rr. Edit warring isn't allowed. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I concede that point. They were reverts. They were not consecutive. You have not responded to my quote of 3RR, which shows you must desist from invoking that rule other than as context and attempt to restore what damage has been done by erroneously invoking it. You have an opportunity now to retract your statements regarding Garcia's blocking under WP:3RR. Anarchangel (talk) 01:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The reverts I listed above weren't consecutive. Note that another admin declined the unblock request. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't the protocol to warn a user on their talk page first? Switzpaw (talk) 01:55, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No warning is needed: Users violating the rule may warrant a block from editing for up to 24 hours in the first instance. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If I err not, Garcia has been a poor playmate in several venues now, including in ANI? And each time he says "I will be good"? And each time he falls short? Collect (talk) 02:06, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I glark he thinks each time is the last he'll have to learn something about Wikipedia. As it happens, I hinted at that in the unblock notice, for what it's worth. Gwen Gale (talk) 02:12, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually he and the other editor who was mentioned in that ANI report were surprisingly cooperative during some recent changes at the Keith Olbermann article, which is why this caught my eye. Switzpaw (talk) 02:15, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds hopeful, thanks for telling me. Gwen Gale (talk) 02:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the unblock. That editor has now joined Sarah Palin's page, though. Regarding: your edits to Palin, you made several edits to the talk pages of Palins, and some to Michelle Malkin. That's fine of course, but it wasn't a question of a single edit. RafaelRGarcia (talk) 02:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Talk pages aren't the same thing. Anyway stop trying to wikilawyer, edit warring isn't allowed. Gwen Gale (talk) 02:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Priest River Lamanna High School

If you get a sec, can you spare a moment over at Priest River Lamanna High School. Some IP is inserting some weird fan-fic to the page. Could be inflammatory, but definitely gibberish. The page could either use semi-protecting, or the IP blocked, whichever is easier. Thanks in advance! Dayewalker (talk) 00:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gracias! Dayewalker (talk) 00:18, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't like comin' down too hard on fit creative writers like that IP, if I can skirt it. ;) Gwen Gale (talk) 00:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:RafaelRGarcia

Would you mind taking a look at the most recent unblock request. Thanks, Tiptoety ^talk 01:45, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I guess that'll do. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I guess that will. Thanks, Tiptoety ^talk 02:07, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do not see why the other user was allowed to post on my talk page with no problems, when you also told him to stay away from me. RafaelRGarcia (talk) 11:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've answered on your talk page. Gwen Gale (talk) 12:07, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Despite attempts

Despite attempts to unblock RafaelRGarcia, he's still blocked. Can we remedy this? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.7.35.11 (talk) 02:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I looked for an autoblock on him but didn't see one. I'll look again. Gwen Gale (talk) 02:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Works now. RafaelRGarcia (talk) 02:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I found it this time, don't know why it didn't show up before. Gwen Gale (talk) 02:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you delete the Reliance big TV article?

It wasn't blatant advertising. It is a DTH network in India, just like Dish Network and DishTV in the United States. Why are you so biased towards the United States that you don't give a flying damn about what goes on in other countries? This is an encyclopedia for everything in the world, not an encyclopedia for the United States.

With that said, please restore the article ASAP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.169.17.212 (talk) 06:22, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:GGcsd Gwen Gale (talk) 10:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mark L. Cowden

Hello;

My name is John Mallow. I'm a PR Agent for SlyFox PR in the UK. We represent Mark L Cowden. We get a lot of requests for information on films and music projects that he has been involved with and felt it important to create a wikipedia page for this individual. I noticed that the page was deleted for apparent copyright infringement reasons.

Any biography or promotional material on any other music or film website was created and is managed by us. If there are similarities, it's because we wrote and retain copyright on the articles.

We have received no email varification as to this page being deleted

slyfoxpr@gmail.com www.slyfoxpr.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.168.255.172 (talk) 11:45, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mark L. Cowden was deleted as a copyright violation. You cannot post copyrighted text to Wikipedia, even your own, unless it has been released under a free licence. Moreover, please have a look at Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines. All the best, Gwen Gale (talk) 12:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

So basically if I rewrite the article but in a different way then it's not a violation of copyright? As for conflict of interest, there was no promotion of any kind. These were simply facts and biography information of a living individual in the public eye.

If this were the case then every living actor, musician and artists page on Wikipedia would be as such unless written by a random person with no connections to the individual what so ever.

How do you suggest I proceed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.168.255.172 (talk) 15:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest has nothing to do with whether or not you think the article was promotional. If you have any economic or other directly personal interest in the subject of the article, you shouldn't be editing the article. If he's notable, someone else will sooner or later write one (likely sooner). Please also have a look at WP:Copyright and WP:Music. Gwen Gale (talk) 15:39, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also please have a look at this page if you haven't yet. Gwen Gale (talk) 15:43, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IP socks editing at Talk:Stephanie Adams

Hello Gwen. I saw your name mentioned here at User talk:Sean D Martin about having blocked some socks related to this page. I also noticed this exchange. Do you know if an SSP report exists, that I could refer to for justification in case any future socks need to be blocked? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:00, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not aware of any, though I've thought the need for one may be growing. Gwen Gale (talk) 18:04, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The last registered editor at Talk:Stephanie Adams other than myself has prepared a list of socks in hidden text on his user page. I know this stuff probably ought to be moved along to an actual abuse charge at some point, to justify keeping the info. The case has been at WP:COIN before, so either there or at WP:SSP is an option. To temporarily calm the festivities, I semi-protected the Talk page for a week. EdJohnston (talk) 18:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Found it. I'm not startled to see there are so many. I think the time is coming for a CU on all this. The user has never given a hint she cares a wit about following policy. It should be said, her gripe is not about anything negative or untowards in the BLP, but that the article can't be used to promote the subject's (as yet wholly un-notable) writings on astrology and the occult. Gwen Gale (talk) 18:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymous Edits

Could you take a look at this IP's edit history for me? 128.253.170.108 Thanks.(Wallamoose (talk) 17:47, 13 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

The answer is yes, it very likely is. Gwen Gale (talk) 18:04, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting SPA -- sole purpose is reverting Wallamoose. Collect (talk) 19:03, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder who would want to revert Wallamoose. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:06, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This IP is quickly shaping up to be Wallamoose's Lex Luthor, isn't it? I guess the only reason to keep from jumping to the conclusion that we're all jumping to is that Wallamoose does have more than one enemy. Dayewalker (talk) 19:09, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On those topics? Gwen Gale (talk) 19:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If I have any "enemies" besides the one I am unaware of who they are. Just sayin'. I'm really not such a bad dude. Also, Lex Luther is kind of cool in the movie and the TV show. I would prefer you pick a more despicable villain/ arch-enemy/ nemesis for your metaphorical example. Thanks.(Wallamoose (talk) 19:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Is that metaphorical or mooseyforestal? Gwen Gale (talk) 19:35, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(EC)Well, "Brainiac" is obviously inapporopriate for him. If we're staying with Superman villains, how about "The Parasite"? Dayewalker (talk) 19:37, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seems a little harsh. Yikes. And to think I got in trouble for using what I consider much milder language.

I think I've caused enough trouble for a while, so I'm going to try to stay out of this. If anyone has any questions for me, please let me know. Thanks for your interest in this issue. And don't make jokes, that's what always gets me in trouble! Just sayin'.(Wallamoose (talk) 19:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

(OD)Hey, I joke for a living. I'm a paid professional. If no on the Parasite, we could always refer to the anon IP as the Prankster. Or perhaps he's the Bizarro-Wallamoose.

Either way, I'll let it go. I've already revealed myself as a paid jokester and a comics geek, that's enough for now. Dayewalker (talk) 20:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bizarro seems good to me. I'm not familiar with the Prankster, so I'll have to take a look at the link. I think some good pranks would be a welcome change from the current state of affairs...

So much for my staying out of it. Maybe I should strike that comment. I'm not always great with the whole self-control concept. Please don't lead me into temptation...(Wallamoose (talk) 20:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Danger Will Robinson, don't click here. Gwen Gale (talk) 20:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Treasure Trap

Hi

Could you please explain the grounds for deleting the treasure trap article ?

It was a notable organisation which is now defunct.

It has a string of references on Google.

I personally have a copy of at least one commercial publication from 1982 reviewing it.

It gave rise to a number of spin-off organisations which were/are an important part of university life.

As an occasional contributor to Wikipedia I would appreciate an explantion not simply a referal to another page.

I am quite prepared to recreate the page and then offer it up for discussion - which I can find no record of so far

Pete

Guthroth (talk) 19:15, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. This was left over from a series of A7 deletions of LARPs last month. A small group of experienced, good faith editors showed a consensus that these articles are helpful to the project and this one somehow wasn't restored. I have done, thanks for letting me know about it. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:26, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hi! Sorry to bug you - I understand your recent frustration with the Fclass incident, with his habit of asking you questions and expecting you to do it. But I've just configured Twinkle - but how am I suppose to know it works for me? Thanks for considering my question, Ay^{(Reply!,Contribs!)} 20:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When you came to this talk page, did you see a sign at the top saying Twinkle configuration tips here? Heh heh, only kidding. Have you tried doing something with Twinkle? Gwen Gale (talk) 20:25, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heh ;) I only knew you were a respected administrator, so I gave it a shot. Well, I bypassed my browser's cache, and everytime I F5 my page, it always says "I'm too new to use Twinkle". Technically, I'm not that new - I've been on Wikipedia for years but had a name usurption a few weeks ago. Is that still old? Thanks, Ay^{(Reply!,Contribs!)} 20:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you connect through a Tor network? Gwen Gale (talk) 20:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]