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Purpose of this page

To list individuals notable enough for their own entry in Wikipedia who were the beneficiaries of the U.S. presidential pardon.

The purpose of this list seems like it would be a good purpose for the other pardon listings as well -- the partial lists available for a few of the last Presidents. The "purpose," as indicated above, is not apparent on these lists. There are VERY FEW people listed who are linked to a Wikipedia article about them. I am not saying that these folks are a bunch of nobodies. But, with few exceptions, they do seem to be "pre-somebodies." One guy was pardoned for not telling the truth. Shocking to be sure and yet there is no article about him. Maybe a listing of the "individuals notable enough for their own entry in Wikipedia" should be on one list and the relatively obscure folks could be on another list. Mkpumphrey 19:03, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of "Pardon" here

The power of pardon includes the full pardon, to commute a sentence and to grant clemency. Each and every action is a "pardon," per se. - Davodd 23:08, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am definitely confused by the fact that this article only lists Libby, but the article referenced above lists a lot more.142.68.47.29 23:21, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to be the same practice with Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush: list only the most notable recipients on this page, and list everyone on the president-specific pages. - Walkiped (T | C) 23:24, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This page only lists folks who have their own WP entry. Hope that helps. Davodd 19:01, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Libby

I don't believe Libby should be listed, because he was commuted, not pardoned.N734LQ 07:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to Davodd (above): "The power of pardon INCLUDES the full pardon, to COMMUTE a sentence and to grant clemency. Each and every action is a "pardon," per se. - Davodd 23:08, 2 July 2007 (UTC)." Mkpumphrey 18:48, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Woodrow Wilson

This article fails to mention the pardon granted to George Burdick, a New York newspaper editor, who had refused to testify in federal court regarding the sources used in his article concerning the collection of customs duties. He plead the 5th; President Woodrow Wilson then granted him a full pardon for all of his offenses, which he refused. He continued to plead the 5th, at which he was sentenced by a federal judge for contempt. It was then that the Supreme Court reinforced the necessity of accepting a pardon to be valid; the federal judge had imprisoned Burdick on the grounds that he was claiming falsely his need for protection against self-incrimination.

In short, this article overlooks a pretty important pardon. Burdick was released on order of the Supreme Court.

[1] Ghrey (talk) 03:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/26/opinion/26lardner.html
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