Talk:Alexander Kolchak

his surname is turkic, why?

2001: Which supreme court?

"However, two rehabilitation requests have been denied, by a regional military court in 1999 and by the Supreme Court of Russia in 2001."

Russia has two Supreme Courts plus a Constitutional Court. I'm guessing it was the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation and not the one dealing with Economics, but without a citation I can't be sure. Can someone track this down, cite it, and fix up the Wikilink? Thank you. davidwr ^09f9(talk) 01:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Song

A Red Army marching song lampooned Kolchak (as well as the attempts of foreign nations to stop the Reds):
The uniforms are British
The epaulettes from France
Japan sends tobacco, and
Kolchak leads the dance

The uniforms are tattered
The epaulettes are gone
So is the tobacco, and
Kolchak's day is done

What year was he born in, really?

Half the sources say 1873, another half - 1874. Many, actually say both: e.g. http://www.peoples.ru/military/admiral/kolchak/index.html (first mention is 16.11.1873, second is 16 ноября 1874. I read protocols of his interrogation in January 1920, there he answers: I was born in 1873. I'm now 46 years old. Maybe that's the truth? Panda34 19:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Romanian or Bosnian origin

The article indicates that he was of Romanian origin, however indicates no source. Other sources indicate that he was of Bosnian origin. Does anybody know where the truth lies and provide the required references?Afil (talk) 02:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

That depends on how far back you want to go. Kolchak is a Turkic name, originally they were Cumans and lived in Siberia, then migrated to Europe and lived in Bosnia. Kolchak's ancestor Ilias Pasha enlisted in Turkish army and was captured by Russians. Then they lived in Poland. Under Catherine II Lucian Kolchak, Alexander's greatgrandfather, was a Cossack of the Buh host. As to Romanian origin - that probably was inserted by some nationalist (IP from Moldova). He did the same in Russian version (albeit not so categorical - it states that 'Romanians think Kolchak is Romanian on account of Kolchak is a common name in Romania.', probably because Russian version already had information on Kochak's Turkish origin). Ironically, Romanian article has nothing on it. --Panda34 (talk) 15:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Where do you have your information from? Kolchak is a pure Russian surname of Slavonic origin. Kolchak is a mushroom and you will also find this word in other Slavonic languages which where never influenced by Turks. See Kolczak in Polish wikipedia. Kolchak comes from proto-Slavonic Kolo (circle, ring). Voyevoda (talk) 20:31, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

This is not a matter of etymology on which you may be right, but of genealogy. Kolchak's genealogy is fairly well-known, some you may see at [1] (up to Ilias Pasha)--Panda34 (talk) 09:25, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

If some nationalist just inserted the Romanian reference on no solid grounds, then it should be deleted. On the face of it, it doesn't make sense to say he was born in Petersburg and is of Romanian origin. As well, after he graduates, he is said to be attached to some city – but no city is named earlier, so this doesnt make sense either. This is poorly written stuff and needs some sharp editing. I don't know enough factually about the topic to do the editing, but as it stands, I would say it doesn't really meet minimum standards of clarity and coherence.

Theonemacduff (talk) 17:32, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Koltchak, Admiral Koltchak as synonyms

Perhaps someone more capable than myself would like to consider making a search for "Admiral Koltchak" redirect to this page, and for "Koltchak" to be directed to the Kolchak disambiguation page. I'd only ever seen the "Koltchak" form, and it took me a little while to find this article. Regards Msdorney (talk) 02:16, 10 September 2008 (UTC)