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Farnese Artemis in the National Archaeological Museum, Naples
Farnese Artemis in the National Archaeological Museum, Naples

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Articles created/expanded on October 27

Articles created/expanded on October 26

all fine - check wording. Six stones for 5 regiments? Victuallers (talk) 17:54, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I wondered about that too, but it's what the source said. C'est la vive.--Gen. Bedford his Forest 20:32, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Sigiriya rock and surrounding gardens
The Sigiriya rock and surrounding gardens

Articles created/expanded on October 25

Miss Shangay Lily, drag queen from Spain
Miss Shangay Lily, drag queen from Spain
This hook works better if Kukruse has an article in English Wikipedia. Pls consider creating it and make this a double-DYK hook. You have ~4 days. --74.13.126.203 (talk) 17:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Horizon Air plane
Horizon Air plane
Speaker iconFirst minute of the Transit of Venus March

Ancient Greek coins with portraits of Nabis, king of Sparta and inventor of the Iron Apega.
Ancient Greek coins with portraits of Nabis, king of Sparta and inventor of the Iron Apega.
Which week? --74.13.126.203 (talk) 17:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Costa Allegra
Costa Allegra
Troy post office
Troy post office
"Rip Van Winkle", by Waldo Peirce, in the Troy, NY, post office lobby
"Rip Van Winkle", by Waldo Peirce, in the Troy, NY, post office lobby

Two possibilities here:

Articles created/expanded on October 24

Do you mean "Jamie Sullivan is actually a real person"? Why do people think he's dead? --74.13.126.203 (talk) 17:18, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Verified. Royalbroil 04:27, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Better make "is" the main verb of the hook. The "first" bit is more interesting than the "when" bit. --74.13.126.203 (talk) 17:18, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Russian ref checks out. Daniel Case (talk) 21:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
William Forst House
William Forst House
I did not quite understand what the two references given in the article (Clark and Cronan) are. Are they books? Or something else? Could you clarify please? Nsk92 (talk) 05:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
They are two separate National Register of Historic Places documents, which is what the National Park Service uses to decide if they are worthy of belonging on the National Register. In other words, they are reliable sources.--Gen. Bedford his Forest 05:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How and where are they accessible? Would they be available in a good library? Or on the National Register of Historic Places website? Nsk92 (talk) 05:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Some libraries have them, and you can request copies of them from the NPS.--Gen. Bedford his Forest 05:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. Could you maybe add a source of a more traditional type (a book or an article) for this? For example, "The Kentucky Encyclopedia" also mentions this fact, and the relevant page there is actually available for preview online via googlebooks[1]. Nsk92 (talk) 12:25, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't have to, as the NHRP are "traditional" but I did. However, Kleber makes an chronological error, as it wouldn't be called Clark House until the 1920s, so the NRHP is a better source. The NRHP forms have long been acceptable, so it should be good enough.--Gen. Bedford his Forest 14:20, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Now only ~1220 characters in text. Kablammo (talk) 01:39, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've expanded the article a bit more. No objection to it being an April Fools DYK as long as it is guaranteed to appear. Mjroots (talk) 05:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gaius Charles
Gaius Charles
Three Emperors' Corner
Three Emperors' Corner
Northern River Street, Troy, NY
Northern River Street, Troy, NY

Articles created/expanded on October 23

  • ... that Abandon's music was first discovered when a record label manager was dining and got distracted by hearing them play a concert next door? Self-nom, new article. The funny anecdote is hard to write in a hook-style, but I think this wording is decent. Feel free to comment with suggestions. Jamie☆S93 13:24, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date & hook verified[2]. Mitico (talk) 16:00, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hook, refs, & article length verified. I think the hook should in include "in the United States" for clarity/specificity. However, adding this text would make the hook 206 characters. Dropping "the case" would make in 197. Mitico (talk) 16:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hook, refs, & article length verified. The hook is sourced to the note "Black,Barnwell's, 9-10." But this source is not provided.Fixed. (Image licensing may be questionable, too. Likely okay, but plausible that life of the photographer plus 100 years not met). -Mitico (talk) 16:47, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can someone else take a look at this. Should DYK just assume good faith here & move on? My question is: is the source provided reliable? Per google books Its a literary travel guide that asks the reader to have a "sense of humor." (I am taking it out of context?) Some (limited) independent research did not provide any further verification of this hook. The hook is compelling, but I am just unsure about it accuracy. I left a note on the nom's talk. Thanks, Mitico (talk) 21:33, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OR ... that in 1889 Frank Wyatt created the role of the Duke of Plaza Toro in The Gondoliers before becoming owner of the Duke of York's Theatre? -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:55, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yellow-bellied slider
Yellow-bellied slider
Holton Windmill
Holton Windmill
OR
OR

Articles created/expanded on October 22

Nice article and an interesting hook. I do have a question that I am somewhat unsure about, and maybe others could chime in here. My impression is that the term Saracen, when used by the Europeans in the middle ages, had pretty strong negative connotations and was and still is somewhat derogatory. I looked up the reference cited (which actually is available for online preview via googlebooks, and one can preview page 457 of the book which is cited in the article as an off-line source, see preview page here[3]). The terms used there are "Arabs" or "Arabs of Crete" or "Cretan Arabs". Would it be better, for NPOV reasons, to replace "Saracen fleet" by "Arab fleet" in the hook? Nsk92 (talk) 01:30, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes of course, no problem. I used "Saracens" without thinking too much, because it encapsulates the (Western) image of the "Arab pirate/raider". I didn't really think of POV.
Ergo ALT hook: ... that in 874, Byzantine admiral Niketas Oryphas hauled his ships overland over the Isthmus of Corinth in order to catch an Arab fleet by surprise and defeat it? Constantine ✍ 12:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ALT hook looks good. Date and length of the article verified, reference verified, length of the hook (under 200 characters) verified. Ready to go. I do recommend to the nom that you include a weblink to the googlebooks preview[4] for the item in the Sources section (Treadgold's book) which is cited in the article for the hook fact. Right now the book is listed as an off-line source, which is fine, but since a free online preview of the relevant page and of a substantial other portion of the book is available, it'be nice to include it. Nsk92 (talk) 14:19, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


other version can have additional: - "range of parasites, some of which can infect humans." --Snek01 (talk) 14:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date verifieid. Offline hook reference accepted in good faith. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:32, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:49, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Hook has 231 characters. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Rosie. Are these any better?
  • ... that educational music has been shown in research to promote learning? --Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Hpadgett 11:55, 22 October 2008 (EST)
I've left a note with this new user, asking him/her to reword this hook so it follows the style of Did you know entries. -- How do you turn this on (talk) 18:56, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
First sentence on its own would be better. -- How do you turn this on (talk) 19:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that pilots participating in the Hawgsmoke competition drink whiskey then smash the glasses, in honor and remembrance of old friends and colleagues? Nom by --Gwib (talk), article by Ndunruh
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Date and length OK, but I have several concerns. First, and that is the main issue, the hook needs to be re-written in plain language understandable to non-experts. I have a PhD in Math but I could not quite unparse the meaning of the hook after reading it a couple of times. Trans? You could use a different fact from the article for a hook, e.g. something related to the compound's melting point. (Remember, however, that the hook needs to be no more than 200 characters long). Second, while the article is above the 1500 character minimum (although not by much), it does feel rather short and stubby. It'd be preferable to have it expanded a little. On a related note, I'd like to see more than just two references in the References section. Nsk92 (talk) 21:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I gave the hook some wikilinks, including [[trans isomer|trans]]. Art LaPella (talk) 07:10, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, the article was started by User:Axiosaurus, and I did left a note on his talkpage. AdjustShift (talk) 14:02, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a bit to the article as we do need some more scientific articles. Can I suggest the nom below as intriguing and approachable by a schoolchild chemistVictuallers (talk) 15:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that SnCl4 + 4HF → SnF4 + 4HCl?
That's a remarkable hook. AdjustShift (talk) 16:49, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But it's unbalanced. Did you mean 4HCl? Art LaPella (talk) 20:50, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I like this innovative approach. Please balance it and let's use this hook. --BorgQueen (talk) 13:52, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. We have now agreed to correct the article and the hook. Art LaPella (talk) 18:10, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have got to say that I strongly dislike this version, even more than the original hook and for the same reasons. It is innovative but too much so. Many, possibly most, readers will not understand what this formula means. I think that a DYK hook needs to be in the form of an English sentence and needs to be written in plain language understandable to non-experts. Nsk92 (talk) 00:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, you have your point but I don't see anything much interesting in the toothpaste hook. I think the fact that fluoride is used in toothpaste is a common knowledge, no? --BorgQueen (talk) 12:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
True, but I am not sure it is very common knowledge as to which particular fluoride compound (or compounds?) is used in toothpaste. I would have actually preferred to see a hook for this entry based on some other fact from article which is both more novel than the toothpaste thing and more understandable than the chemical reaction formula. E.g. the article does mention that this compound has a much higher melting temperature that other tin(IV) halides. Nsk92 (talk) 14:31, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, how about this:
Should there be a space between "tin" and "(IV)"? --74.13.126.203 (talk) 18:01, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Usually]. Art LaPella (talk) 19:03, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Born and executed on Qi Xi? --74.13.128.34 (talk) 18:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Nothing romantic about it, for Chancellor Qiao. --Nlu (talk) 02:52, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why is the future tense used in this hook? --74.13.128.34 (talk) 14:37, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
how about "... that in Anyang, Gyeonggi, South Korea, one of the roads sings the nursery rhyme "Mary Had a Little Lamb" as vehicles drive over it?" Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 19:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ALT hook suggestion: "... that in Anyang, Gyeonggi, South Korea, a road sings the nursery rhyme "Mary Had a Little Lamb" to passing car drivers on the road?" I'm thinking a rewording like that would sounds a little better. Cheers, Jamie☆S93 23:27, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Nice new article (by the way, this is a new article, although the nom does not say it), date and length OK, and I like the hook. However, there is a minor issue that needs to be addressed first. The citation related to the fact given in the hook needs to occur in the same sentence where this fact is mentioned in the article (rather than at the end of the following sentence as appears to be the case now). Nsk92 (talk) 21:40, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Will this change be acceptable?Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:52, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but which change? All that needs to be done is to add a citation (referring to the current ref. no 5, "Garcia played life as a giant") in the text of the article itself in the same sentence where the episode with breaking the hand is mentioned. For example, you can put the citation at the end of that sentence in the article, right after "he broke a bone in his hand." That is all that is needed. Nsk92 (talk) 02:36, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, now everything looks good. Date and length OK, online reference verified, good hook, ready to go. Nsk92 (talk) 12:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's Billy Hathorn's work, Ryan. Ecoleetage (talk) 10:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I like the hook directly above this one (for the same article) better. Nsk92 (talk) 12:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on October 21

Added two wikilinks. --74.13.126.203 (talk) 18:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that why Art LaPella gave it a slash, instead of a cross. --74.13.126.203 (talk) 18:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I missed the double nom. Art LaPella (talk) 19:03, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. I just figured I'd missed some new rule somewhere. Manxruler (talk) 20:51, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
RIM-7 Sea Sparrow
RIM-7 Sea Sparrow
Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams
Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams
  • A note here: the statement is not referenced explicitly at the beginning, but the site rests in the second para of the lead (Philippiness DANFS article)
  • Second note: "large cruiser" redirects to the Alaska-class article.
  • Third note: the class were officially designated as "large cruisers", but they were basically battlecruisers (which is referenced in the article)...would it be better to use "battlecruiser" in place of "large cruiser"?
  • Fourth note: two very similar hooks for Puerto Ricos and Samoa, can be found below...if you want me to think of an alternate hook for one, I will. —Ed 17 for President Vote for Ed 23:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
With no service records to these ships, a simple redirect to Alaska class battlecruiser would be more appropriate than having three articles with near-identical text duplicated from the class's article. --74.13.128.34 (talk) 14:46, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I took a week on the text on the class' article for a reason, and that was to be able to duplicate it...I learned my lesson from USS Nevada (BB-36)—it's a lot easier to adapt a summary of how the class was designed when you write it for the entire class' page first and then use it for all of the ships in the class (rather than vice versa...)
Also, it's not like they are long articles with a bunch of text; all they have is why/when the ship was canceled, how it was designed and what it would have mounted as armament. BTW, I'm only responding on this hook to avoided spamming my other two hooks here. :) Cheers, —Ed 17 for President Vote for Ed 20:28, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Worse comes to worse, if they are too similar, use the Samoa hook please, as that article most unique out of the three (by a little bit).... Thanks and cheers, —Ed 17 for President Vote for Ed 16:12, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
One DYK is probably okay. I just don't think it's right to expect people to click on four different links on the main page and get the same text to read. --74.13.126.203 (talk) 16:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that local people of Khichan has established a noble tradition of a compassionate act of ‘Bird Feeding’ by offering grains of 5 quintals every day to Demoiselle Cranes.
Whose nom is this? Which article is nominated? --74.13.128.34 (talk) 16:22, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nwchar's nom, here. Khichan is now bolded. However, the bird feeding article describes why feeding birds is controversial, so "noble" and "compassionate" is an unbalanced Point Of View. ALT... that the people of Khichan have a tradition of offering 5 quintals of grain per day to Demoiselle Cranes?
Yes, I agree with the revised Hook. Sorry, intially I forgot to sign the Hook--Nvvchar (talk) 11:08, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
widthpx
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- evidence here all fine. Suggest lose "by scientists" as obvious Victuallers (talk) 11:43, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I inserted cryptic species.--Wetman (talk) 17:05, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • A note here: the statement is not referenced explicitly at the beginning, but the site rests in the second para of the lead (Puerto Ricos DANFS article)
  • Second note: "large cruiser" redirects to the Alaska-class article.
  • Third note: the class were officially designated as "large cruisers", but they were basically battlecruisers (which is referenced in the article)...would it be better to use "battlecruiser" in place of "large cruiser"?
  • Fourth note: a very similar hook for Puerto Ricos sister ship, Samoa, can be found in the October 20th section...if you want me to think of an alternate hook for one, I will. —Ed 17 for President Vote for Ed 02:58, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
With no service records to these ships, a simple redirect to Alaska class battlecruiser would be more appropriate than having three articles with near-identical text duplicated from the class's article. --74.13.128.34 (talk) 14:46, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Replied on the first of three hooks I have here. —Ed 17 for President Vote for Ed 20:30, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
One DYK is probably okay. I just don't think it's right to expect people to click on four different links on the main page and get the same text to read. --74.13.126.203 (talk) 16:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 20

This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Length, creation date, and sourcing check out OK, but I'm not convinced that the hook is accurate. My reading of the article and its sources indicate that she wasn't proven to be a spy (merely suspected) and she wasn't exactly "captured." Here's a possible alternative hook:
... that Anna Elinor Jones was jailed as an accused Confederate spy due to being involved in a dispute between Union generals George Armstrong Custer and H. Judson Kilpatrick?
I can live with the alt hook, but who checked this...it's unsigned.--Gen. Bedford his Forest 20:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that Valvata piscinalis (pictured), "European stream valvata", is nonindigeous and widely distributed in some areas in North America, has declined in some parts of its native distribution, and in some areas it is endangered? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Snek01 (talk) 08:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Hook is too long at 224 characters. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
shorter version:
... that Valvata piscinalis (pictured), is nonindigeous and widely distributed in some areas in North America, has declined in some parts of its native distribution, and in some areas it is endangered? --Snek01 (talk) 08:55, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The word "endangered" in the hook fact is unsourced, but assuming it gets a source, how about this (191 characters and more compelling, IMO):
... that although the freshwater snail Valvata piscinalis (pictured) is widely distributed in some parts of North America where it is non-indigenous, it is endangered in some of its native areas? --Orlady (talk) 13:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There is a source for its conservation status in Austria in the article. --Snek01 (talk) 14:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Aha! You're right! (Adding tick showing acceptance of offline/foreign source on good faith.)--Orlady (talk) 16:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Added conservation status in Germany. I found no detailed English information. Cf. [5]. --Snek01 (talk) 18:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is Janet the governor and Mike the spouse? Is the order in the hook important? --74.13.128.34 (talk) 16:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have amended the order on the hook so it reads as making more sense. Davewild (talk) 18:22, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The source does not substantiate the hook fact (at least not the part of the source that's free online). It says "It is now known to be one of the more abundant, widely distributed and longest ranging of Burgess Shale arthropod genera." That's not the same thing as "among the commonest Cambrian animals." --Orlady (talk) 03:37, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest mentioning when. --74.13.126.203 (talk) 18:40, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • A note here: the statement is not referenced explicitly at the beginning, but the site rests in the second para of the lead (Samoas DANFS article)
  • Second note: "large cruiser" redirects to the Alaska-class article.
  • Third note: the class were officially designated as "large cruisers", but they were basically battlecruisers (which is referenced in the article)...would it be better to use "battlecruiser" in place of "large cruiser"? —Ed 17 for President Vote for Ed 21:44, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
With no service records to these ships, a simple redirect to Alaska class battlecruiser would be more appropriate than having three articles with near-identical text duplicated from the class's article. --74.13.128.34 (talk) 14:46, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Replied on the first of three hooks I have here. —Ed 17 for President Vote for Ed 20:29, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
One DYK is probably okay. I just don't think it's right to expect people to click on four different links on the main page and get the same text to read. --74.13.126.203 (talk) 16:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Capt. Collyer's house, Driftwood
Capt. Collyer's house, Driftwood
Parikrama 2008
Parikrama 2008
Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 13:35, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest we save this hook for 28 October, the Diwali day. --BorgQueen (talk) 16:22, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Halloween DYKs

See also: Wikipedia:Did you know/Halloween 2008

Note: We are "breaking the rules" (including the unwritten ones) in that these articles were prepared in under 5 days but are being delayed. (We are allowed to break the rules, you know.)

Culbertson Mansion
Culbertson Mansion
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues This article existed until tonight, when it was deleted for no reason whatsoever (before this it existed from February to April this year, again being deleted without any reason at all). Since it existed today, it's doubtful whether we can call this a new article, even if all the text may be new. Punkmorten (talk) 15:58, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, it's not new. Shame we have admins willing to abuse their tools to push their POV. -- How do you turn this on (talk) 16:39, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's now a 5x expansion from the previously deleted version, to eliminate any ambiguity about if the article is new or not. ~ User:Ameliorate! (with the !) (talk) 13:01, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
5x expansion confirmed. Punkmorten (talk) 17:29, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Amended.--Gen. Bedford his Forest 08:57, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
thx - only offline in article, but several non-trivial references to this. Victuallers (talk) 15:14, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A pumpkin in Lake Pisaquid in 2008
A pumpkin in Lake Pisaquid in 2008
  • ... that the Windsor Pumpkin Regatta is a race featuring large hollowed out pumpkins in which contestants paddle a half mile course across a lake? The annual race is held in Windsor, Nova Scotia. self nom Verne Equinox (talk) 01:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • This is maybe short but is an excellent article for Halloween. If Verne Equinox and someone else (you?) agrees then can we just break the rules and move this back a week or more? Oh and I added a pic with an orange pumpkin which I think would be more eye catching. Victuallers (talk) 10:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • - I've been clearing articles toward the bottom (and the rest of you guys should too!) but I have to weigh in on this one.... the article newness and length are fine. The hook is in the article and there is adequate sourcing to support what it says (which in essence is that there is a race, it is held in place X, and uses equipment Y... normally that's rather ho num but not in this case!) even though it's not exactly sourced directly from the hook's sentence. So this article is all set. The added pic is awesome (although I like the other one in the article slightly better). I strongly support bending the rules a bit and putting this one up on 31 October if there is no compelling reason not to (other than rules) and meanwhile maybe people can expand it even further? I want to hear about the other classes, motor and experimental!... I'd also say if we can find other thematics, let's have at least one Halloween related article in each update on 31 October... what do you all think? (Maybe take that to WT:DYK... ) ++Lar: t/c 12:43, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • - Note...this article was from 13th Oct ... we're breaking the rules!! Victuallers (talk) 17:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • I had never thought about the Hallowe'en connection. I think its a great idea! Since your discussion, I have added 2 more images to Commons and changed the one on this page. It might suit the theme better .. The other one that I added is of a motorized competitor in response to one of the comments above. I really have no other information at the moment regarding the motorized class. The particular boat shown failed to make the finish line though - I think he got lost in a fog ... Verne Equinox (talk) 00:21, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that millions of children participate in Halloween-related fund-raising events for Trick-or-Treat for UNICEF, a program that has raised over US$188 million worldwide?
replaced above with shorter version --Jh12 (talk) 09:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- nice. Thanks! 16:29, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Note: It can wait until Oct. 31, but it would be well past the five to seven day limit.Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:48, 21 October 2008 (UTC) Don't worry! You created it in less than 5. Its us who are late. Thx. Victuallers (talk) 08:22, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- thanks - an interesting subject. Lots of offline refs but the bnet one covers this hook Victuallers (talk) 11:44, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I know its obvious, but I can't find a ref that says this ... any help? Victuallers (talk) 16:56, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Me neither. Is there a better hook that could be used? – How do you turn this on (talk) 20:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


This is fine but could it say
ref ok and length and date - fine Victuallers (talk) 14:07, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I edited the text here--otherlleft (talk) 16:40, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ALT: ... that the slasher film Cold Prey 2 had the best opening weekend of any Norwegian film in history? -- self-nom -- Lampman (talk) 16:46, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
looks good. Not essential but could someone check the Norwegian sources? Victuallers (talk) 16:06, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See also
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