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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Grutness (talk | contribs) at 12:03, 11 October 2005 (archiving). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Please add new discussions at the bottom of the page!

Earlier talk

I've moved earlier discussions to archive pages (as listed below). A few of the items I've simply got rid of - if I have, it's simply that it was trivial and/or stuff which has been dealt with, and is therefore no longer relevant. The deletion is not a reflection of my opinion of the writers!

Archive pages

Stub Categories

The full plain-text list of stub categories (formerly at User:Grutness/Stubs) is now at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Stub_types, complete with links to the templates and categories.

Category counts

Generally, when I count stubs, I'm counting only those that have the potential to ultimately replace a stub with one or two more specific ones. For example, I see no desirability in having Libyan Desert (if it were a stub article) have {Egypt-geo-stub}, {Libya-geo-stub}, and {Sudan-geo-stub} when one stub {AfricaN-geo-stub} would do. I would be willing to do such hyper splitting if the supercat were overful, but that's not the case for any of the African geo stub types. (Note that for my purposes I consider a double stub auch as {Ghana-stub}{AfricaW-geo-stub} to one stub that would be waiting for there to be enough non-geo Ghana stubs to warrant splitting the geo stubs off. Caerwine 03:44, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And yes, I know I am being slightly inconsistent with {Kenya-geo-stub}, but both were already proposed and the non-geo Keyna is large enough that I think I can soon justify a {Kenya-stub} by going through other cats.

Your message

Sorry — I was probably in "category"-mode (removing parent categories). I'll watch out for that in future. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 08:58, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Jaxl's RfA

Hi Grutness, thanks for your support on my RfA! Robert 15:56, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My sig

Hi reinyday - I've been noticing your sig on WP:CFD... this is probably something you know all about but... you do know about being able to use four tildes (~~~~) to sign, don't you? Or have you done some fancy trick with your signature to stop it linking back to your user page? Grutness...wha? 10:22, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Most people don't know that you can get just the time stamp by typing five tildes (~~~~~), which is what I used to do:
-- Reinyday, ~~~~~
Now, I've edited my preferences and selected the "Raw signatures" box and changed my nickname to "-- Reinyday," so I only have to type four tildes (~~~~) to sign my unlinked name. -- Reinyday, 16:36, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Can you have a look please

Hey Grutness. Can you wander over to here and have a look please, re a statement I deleted but which has been reverted. Cheers Moriori 02:09, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Week at view returns

And with good reason. The AFD List has returned. --AllyUnion (talk) 00:10, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Chance in NZ/Vic

It's off-topic on the AfD page (and I probably shouldn't've asked there in the first place), so I think I'll respond here. You said:

  • The "a" is as in "part" in NZ and Victoria. In many other parts of Australia it is as in "pants". In SA and Tasmania, it is slightly closer to the "a" in "fall". The same pronunciation is found in the word "advance" - it is often possible to pinpoint which state an Australian comes from by asking them the name of their national anthem. Grutness...wha? 06:00, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I (a Victorian) suspected you might say that. This seems to be a misconception from people "up north"—but it quite patently is false. If you said charnce, I'd pick you as a New Zealander, South Australian or British. If you said chornce, I'd pick you as a South African. Victorians all say 'chance' with the pants vowel (except those who speak Cultivated Australian—but that's a non-regional accent and found in other states and cities at least as often as in Victoria and Melbourne). The same applies to the national anthem (though I have a habit of sometimes singing something more like Udvarnce Ostrairlya Fair /advaːns ɔstreːljə feː/, but that's because my last school took singing and fake British accents used in such situations rather serious).

—Felix the Cassowary (ɑe hɪː jɐ) 09:23, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

As someone from "up north", I agree with Cassowary, so I don't know where this misconception started. Of course, when he says British, he means southern English. Hi James, btw... JPD 09:28, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Help at SFD

I am getting confused with some of the comments at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion#.7B.7BHRF-bio-stub.7D.7D. Can you translate them for me? Zach (Sound Off) 17:24, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

comparisons

Thanks for remembering, I haven't done enough yet to publish any general statements about quality. lots of issues | leave me a message 00:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Missouri geo stub

Thanks for letting me know. Rt66lt 01:55, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support

Thank you very much for your support on my nomination for adminship. Now that I have been made an admin, I will do my best to live up to the truest you and the community have placed in me. If you ever see my doing something you think is incorrect or questionable, or does not live up to the standards that should be expected of an admin, please let me know. DES (talk) 15:40, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

List of songs whose title includes geographical names

There is a Vote for Deletion going on against this list. Maybe you're interested (in keeping, I hope ;-) ) Bye, -DePiep 19:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

State forest stubs and state park stubs

What is the decision regarding state forest stubs and state park stubs? — Fingers-of-Pyrex 02:17, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Good question. personally, I'd just delete the forests one - it's only used for lists of forests by state, all of which can go in the state categories happily (and since they're lists, it's qustionalble whether they're really stubs anyway). As to the parks, I really don't know. I don't think consensus was reached one way or the other, and there were various counter-proposals. Perhaps this is worth bringing up for comments at the bottom of the proposals page, see what can be worked out. Grutness...wha? 02:24, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Puffin Island

Thanks for putting me right on the DAB/stub issue! --Snalwibma 12:01, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

spain's stub

I'm awful sorry for the damages caused with my cut-and-paste editions. As you can see, I'm a beginner here!. I was trying to put a little order in the category Catalonia, and I have created a "Geography of Catalonia" category. Changing categorization, some articles were pasted with a generical geo-stub. (Not all them).

I'll try to continue this work more accurately.

Your proposal of creating a "Catalonia-related stub" sounds pretty. It's possible, for an article, have more than a stub?, or this should be useful only for new ones? --Joan sense nick 12:31, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

japan-geo-stubs and Historical Provinces of Japan

This is just my opinion, but I think that stubs of historical provinces of Japan shouldn't be categorized into present-day prefectures but rather, left in the old japan-geo-stub category. Thanks for all of your work on categorizing the new stubs!

-Nameneko 05:17, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Don't thank me! Most of the work is being done by others User:Mindmatrix is doing a lot of it). You might want to comment to him about the historic provinces, although with other countries historical areas are divided up according to the current political divisions (I stubbed a Prussian province with {{Poland-geo-stub}} today, for instance). Grutness...wha?

My RfA

Grutness,

I really appreciate your support of my current RfA, however I do want to point out that you have been so supportive of me as to vote twice! You're currently listed at spots #2 and #22. I'm glad to see you have such confidence in me, but I figured you might want to know you'd accidentally voted twice. Thanks again for your support! Best regards, Ëvilphoenix Burn! 13:56, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

List of Louisiana state forests

What is going on there? I noticed during SP-patrol that you have blanked this page and I can't see why. (Nor I can see any reason to ever blank a Wikipedia page...) jni 05:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? You sure? All I was trying to do was add a category and re-stub it! Grutness...wha? 05:23, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, editing accidents do happen! I usually just revert these back to last non-blank revision, but now decided to ask first if you were on middle of doing something major to that stub. Cheers, jni 05:31, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Adelaide stub tags

Thanks for updating our stub tags. Sorry if I caused you a problem by adding the wrong one as you were changing them. --Scott Davis Talk 12:03, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's fixed now. Thanks for the heads up.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:17, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

french ensigns

Maybe I explained myself badly, my contention is not that some flags with the tricolore in canton do not exist. my point is that

1- 2 of those he mention do not exist (plain green and red) 2- those who do exist were not used in the same way as the british (blue is for governor general, not a state ensign)

--Marc pasquin 12:25, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I did suspect it was you but I have learned that its a bad idea to assume identity based on screen name. As for your suggestion regarding a page comparing european or world ensigns with similar designs, that's something I would get behind. I had done something similar for the althistory wiki, I had tried to do a kick guide to flags creation based on common design elements (many airforce ensign have pale blue field, scandinavian warflag are usualy bi- or tri-furcated, etc...).--Marc pasquin 02:17, 11 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Meditative art

Hi, I pretty much knew AFD was not the ideal place for talking about Meditative art but what is? I didn't really think it was a dispute, so the dispute resolution path seemed innappropriate, and I have honestly had it on needs attention for over a year, so that didn't seem to be working. I thought maybe it was made up too, from Talk:Meditative art and the comment there. Anyway, I'm sure there is some page I dont' know about that would be great, hehe :) - cohesion | talk 17:27, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You're right - there isn't really somewhere to take pages like that. As for it being made up, I've heard it maybe twice in three years of part-time work as an arts reviewer, but in that business it's often difficult to tell what terms are simply neologisms. It would seem a shame to waste what looks like quite a lot of effort on the page, though. Perhaps renaming it to Monochromatic art would be a better solution, since that's a more widely used term. Currently grisaille has a link to monochrome, which isn't a very useful link - linking it to a new Monochromatic art page would probably be much more helpful, too. Grutness...wha? 00:10, 11 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'll wait for AFD to finish then do that probably. -cohesion | talk 07:12, 11 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again! :) One question so far: where do SFD decisions to rename get logged (particularly if that was the original proposal)? Previous ones look like they're mostly in the Deleted log, but it isn't that clear... --Mairi 20:04, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'll put them in the deletion log for now then; I figured something like that was the reasoning. The SFD heading probably needs to be changed anyway, as it currently makes no mention of renames at all. A speedy-rename criteria (even if it's the same as on CFD) would also be nice to have... Mairi 01:34, 11 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

canberra-geo-stub

Sorry, didn't realise the suburb stub was going to be deleted. Consider my rv null and void. Garglebutt / (talk) 05:17, 11 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Mount Majura photo

No worries, it does look better from the thumbnail, though the new version isnt loading on my computer. Cfitzart 06:29, 11 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The first version you loaded is working ok, maybe revert back to that one? (and it looks much better than the original, nicely done :) )Cfitzart 06:40, 11 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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