User talk:Copperchair
A call for mediation
I've made a call for mediation in the many style disputes over the various Star Wars articles at Talk:Star Wars#Mediation. Your comment and participation would be appreciated. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 10:49, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
I already have. Thanks for the heads-up. Copperchair 20:22, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Your star wars reverts
Why do you keep reverting my edits to Boba Fett? He was voiced in the DVD by Temuera Morrison. That's a fact. I made note of that in the "portrayers" section of the article. That explains why I added him to the info box as one who portrayed him. Don't just remove it like you do everything else to pretend the special editions are the only versions of the movies that are notable. Same with the Palpatine article, I keep trying to make note of how he looked in the non-DVD version, but you continue to remove it. At least with the Vader article Phil made note of the different portrayers of Vader. And he was specific in the caption who exactly was being seen as Anakin. If you controlled the article, you would probably have it read something like "Anakin Skywalker in Return of the Jedi," rather than what Phil has which is: "Sebastian Shaw as Anakin Skywalker in Return of the Jedi." There are different versions of the films, and major differences in them need to be noted. Now, I allowed Phil to keep the vintage pic of the ROTJ Anakin for film history's sake, and I have the Palpatine article as well. However, it must be noted that there are differences in who played the characters in the different versions of the films. I would think that if you studied law for four years like you have, you would be better able to reason than you have shown. The Wookieepedian 22:37, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Mediation
Hello Copperchair. A Man In Black has filed a mediation over Star Wars related articles and styles. I urge you to accept the case and follow the suggested injunction, to keep the temperature down. I see this is a pretty big case, so I've assigned Ed Poor, one of our best mediators, to look at it. The case is listed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation#Dispute_over_style_in_Star_Wars_articles . I am waiting for Ed to accept, which he says he's gonna look over and accept tomorrow. Cheers! Redwolf24 (talk) 00:31, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
response
They help you discuss better? You mean the way you have been discussing issues on here? WTF? And, with Palpatine, tyhat's exactly the reason we have to specify the pic from the original version, since we can't explain the bit on the original actor. The Wookieepedian 01:01, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
- OK, so you are saying that you support stating the facts, rather than opinion. So do I. That's why I keep the fact in articles that new actors have played roles in the DVD's. You pretending the special editions are THE only versions of the movies and wishing to remove all references to the newest versions would be like me removing all references to previous versions of the films. Now, if I did that, I wouldn't be giving the complete facts, would I? No, of course not. That is why I want all the facts in an article, not the ones I select, and leave others I don't like out. The Wookieepedian 02:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
- The original versions are just as relevant as the originals or special editions, and deserve the same treament. You are saying an article should only be based on original version. Lucas sure doesn't see it that way. In the newest versions, for instance, Boba Fett is voiced by Temuera Morrison. Why is that not as notable as who originally did the voice? Both played Boba, how can you say one is more notable than the other, just because they were in an earlier "draft" of the movie? The Wookieepedian 02:59, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Injunction
I know I may not have a particular authority, but its a goodwill gesture to abide by the injunction I suggested at the mediation. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:25, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Deceptive edits
Please refrain from posting deceptive edit summaries, such as here. – Mipadi 01:17, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
The way things are done on Wikipedia
Instead of simply reverting each other's edits every day and hoping one of you gets tired, you should try to participate in constructive dialogue and reach a compromise. Coffee 02:36, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Palpatine
If you are intent on reverting Wookiepedian's edits, spare my good edits by manually changing back the edits, not wholesale reverting. I'm thinking of pushing Palpatine through peer review and FAC, and reverting my improvements won't help. Until you produce a version of the page with my new edits in, I will be throwing in my reverts on the side of Wookipedian. --Maru (talk) 05:21, 13 October 2005 (UTC)