Talk:Derek Laud
What is the justification for the "most popular" statement at the start?
What is the justification for having articles devoted to Big Brother competitors? There are literary giants with less coverage on Wikipedia than this nonentity!
Why not? Wikipedia is not about taste... it's about information. 1000 years from now, people will want to see what was happing in popular culture right now.
Yeah... and they'll laugh at how we loved to see people thrown in a house and watched their every move... Deskana 21:03, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
- How do you know this? Soul Embrace 03:07, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- Because people already criticise other people for watching the program. I can just imagine the people of the future thinking that. I watch the program. I think it's pretty sad that I do, really. But I loved seeing Eugene sit there talking to Kinga about amateur radio (I found his talk quite interesting) and see her ask him if she could put make up on him. -- Deskana 06:33, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- I really don't find that funny (or sad) at all. I think that finding interest in people and what they say and what they do is a good thing. The problem will come for future generations if they want more than an eviction such as an execution. Perhaps, if they look back and see this dialogue, they might then stop laughing and think again. (... and I found Eugene entertaining too ;))Soul Embrace 18:32, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Claim that police were racist
A claim has been made that the police involved in the Derek Laud drunk-driving case in the USA have been investigated for racism. Can anyone cite sources for this claim?
The story was in the USA news. There was orignaly a link on the DS site but the mssge board that it was on was romoved when some people started posting untrue storys about derek and sexual assault.
I am Justfed removig the untruths and half truths as the are liblas
I am Justfed removig the untruths and half truths as the are liblas.
The Story about Derek being arested for drunk drivg fials to mention that the police offcers who charged Derek with drunk drivig have been investergated for racism.
The story about Derek providing an alibi for his friends Neil and Christine Hamilton in their sexual assault case was worded in such away that might suggest that Hamilton where guilty and the Derek had given them a false alibi. This is what really happened: Derek was telling when he said that he was at a Diner Party with the Hamilton; the women who claimed that Hamilton’s had sexual assaulted her has since been proven to be lying so she could sell her story to the press.
I hope the above lends weight to my chnges, and that my version of the atical should be restored
- I agree with your comment re the Hamilton Case. This must be reworded to make it absolutely clear that they were innocent and that Derek's alibi helped to get at the truth.
- In view of what you say about the racism claim, we can include it to be worded in an appropriate way.
- However, what about the other stuff which you deleted?
There is no reible source for the story aobut Derek being involved with the cash for questions and 'cash for knighthoods' rows.
- No evidence that he was guilty, but there is evidence he was investigated (earlier you said that the police were investigated for racism in the drunk-driving case). Derek Laud's name was mentioned in parliament in relation to cash for knighthoods but "came to prominence" is an exaggeration.
You say that Derek Laud's name was mentioned in parliament; Can anyone cite sources for this claim?
- It was in the version you deleted:
- Hansard 19 May 1997 : Column 460
There is no reible source for the story about Aldershot MP Gerald Howarth March 2005
- Gerald Howarth was criticised for the remarks, but did not deny he had made them. The only point in question is whether Derek Laud actually said the words attributed to him by his friend Gerald. Derek Laud's words seem "in character" because, for example, he likened himself to an "African dictator" when he told Roberto on Big Brother "You’re sensitive, you brood too much. I could have someone executed in the morning and go out for a 3 course meal that night."
Gerald Howarth did not admit that he had made them and you have siad yourself that there is no everdence that Derek Laud actually said the words. So I am Justfed removig the untruths.
If you read that article you will see that it is hearsay:
Gerald Howarth has never admitted to making the remarks that that the article claims that he made so there is no evidence that Derek Laud actually said the words. So I am justified in removing the untruths.