User talk:Jimbo Wales
How can I?
How can I send this message to all users of Wikipedia? Everyone must learn the attrocities of the adminship clique. Please help to turn Wikipedia into a Democrary. BY PEOPLE FOR PEOPLE. Japan 13:00, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Kaihsu
Administrator Kaihsu deleted my account page User:Japan and my discussion page User_talk:Japan with no justification. I am afraid Kaihsu wants to ban me from editing. Please de-sysop Kaihsu. Maximus Rex is trying to censor me, see [1]. Please de-sysop Maximus Rex. Tannin is deleting comments from discussion pages, including Jimbo's discussion page. Tannin wants to block me. See User talk:Japan and [2]
- 11:36, 2004 Mar 25 Kaihsu deleted "User:Japan" (content was: '#REDIRECT Japan')
- 11:36, 2004 Mar 25 Kaihsu deleted "User talk:Japan" (content was: '#REDIRECT Talk:Japan')
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=0&oldid=2912115
User talk:Japan
Japan 13:00, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Japan 13:00, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
(Old stuff cleared out.)
ACTIVIST SYSOPS
Jimbo, you seem like a sensible person to me, can you please lay down the Law, with your sysop, my former username was user:Jesus Chirst, I understand now there is a no offenceive username policy, but:
A) I didn't intend to be offensive I love Jesus.
B) I wasn't told there was an offensive username policy (not on the page you create a username) I never even knew there was one because I have seen names that were considered offenive (i.e Micheal's many usernames, that where hardly stopped) thus, I thought Jesus was ok username.
C) I wasn't warned by anyone that my name was considered offensive until after I was banned by Mr. Ed Poor.
I feel that ACTIVIST SYSOPS (ie Ed Poor) are using their position to foward their opinions...If you Jimbo could somehow create rules (ie like a code of Hammurabi) for what is considered offenive and what is considered POV and NPOV it will be much easier for us, your humble servents--Former user:Jesus Chirst now --Plato 06:09, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Well, Plato, I'd pretty much say you just need to behave yourself. I'll be honest with you -- your past behavior leads me to doubt your sincerity, and I've given up on wasting time trying to hand hold people through the process of behaving in a co-operative and sensible manner. If you can't figure it out on your own, perhaps it's best for you to seek another place in this great big world to write.
If people seem particularly sensitive to what you do now, I'm sure you can understand why. You've made your bed, and now you'll have to lie in it. But, if you're really sincerely trying to turn over a new leaf, i.e. not be a vandal, not try to yank people's chain, then good for you, I congratulate you.
It would be best if you joined the mailing list and entered into discussions there so that people can get to know this new side of you.
And it would be best if you used your real name, but that's up to you of course. Jimbo Wales 18:02, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)
My Responce
Mr. Jimbo, It is quite obvious to I that you don't like what I am doing. I ask you a strightfoward question why dont you like me? Is it because I used to be a vandel? If you controlled America you would abolish our parole system, because you don't trust people who are reformed (if you don't believe me check my contributions). It has become evident to I, that wiki is Police State where those who high mighty my do what they please and everyone that raises issue or problem gets banned. NOT unlike Germany in the first world war, with Third Supreme Command (an article i must work on lol), who would fire or remove officals that wanted peace with the allied side.Thank for your time Mr. Jimbo. --Plato 00:11, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Why don't I like you? What are you talking about? I just gave you some friendly advice, which I stand by. If you want to edit in peace, then just behave yourself. I understand why people don't trust you, but I think things can get better for you over time if you behave.
- However, go back and reread what you wrote to me. First you ask why I don't like you, and then you accuse me of running a police state and make some very strange claims about what I'd do if I "controlled America". This is a bizarre and unfounded accusation.
- As to the claim that "everyone who raises issue or problem gets banned", well, that' s just false, and you're simply wrong about it. I tell you again, if you have something to say, the best thing to do is to sign up for the mailing list wikien-l and then say it. You'll be listened to, although if all you do is just continue to troll and insult people, you likely won't find too many people agreeing with you.
- If you're a reformed troll, then that's dandy. I don't care one way or the other. Just behave yourself now, and you'll be fine. But if you want to influence people (me or anyone else), here's a hint: you don't influence people by insulting them.
- Jimbo Wales 13:41, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Plato, it's not Jimbo's job to "lay down the law" any more. We have a fancy new wikipedia:dispute resolution process, and Jimbo's basically not on it. Of course, Jimbo often gives friendly advice to people, but if you're after an iron glove, you probably won't find it here... Martin 00:51, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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Hey Jimbo, sorry I sound so mad (i suffer from Manic Depression), anyway I wish to become a administrator for wiki, can you nominate me (check my user contributions, that proves im a meaningful contributor to wiki). God bless, Jimbo --Plato 04:41, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
P.S. I never agreed with Michael that was only a joke that went to far, your comrade Plato
- Plato, you should ask again about being an administrator a year from now. As it stands now, no way, no how. You're silly for even asking. Look, I really think you might be happier at a different website. You obviously don't like us. So, leave us to our own 'police state' and do your thing elsewhere, huh? Jimbo Wales 13:42, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Jimbo I found a website that is obviously written by michael, i think you should take a look at it: http://www.bestandworst.com/pages/vote/vote-23922.html --131.216.163.44 07:14, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks, 131. I've referred this matter onto a wikipedia talkpage. You're right,it's a worry. Arno 08:35, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- I don't think it's a big deal. One little poll that few will read. It won't affect the reputation of any individuals or the project. Contacting the webmasters of that site and having it removed will likely cause more trouble than the poll itself. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 13:50, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
More Michael
http://www.bestandworst.com/pages/vote/vote-24143.html, he's telling people to vandalize wikipedia.
My Responce To Mr. Wales
Jimbo I am sorry, I'll be honest with you, I like to rant and rave!. I also have some "problems." You are dealing with my professionally, but I get kind of mad cause people like Michael get all these damn people do this. I know you are a Libertarian, so you guys are cool! Just ignore me when I'm mad (I need a girlfriend more than anything that's what really get me mad). I don't like the term "troll," sounds a little immuture to me, just say troublemaker. I really don't want to be an administrator (only a Joke!). How do join the mailing list??? My big goal is to introduce new blood to wiki more than anything. I want to be your Comrade!!!. (also I'm very serious that I'm reformed, I really stopped vandelizing.) Thanks --Plato 04:33, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
how to join the mailing list Jimbo Wales 15:19, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)--131.216.163.43 23:59, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Online polls and IP ranges
Very interesting.
http://www.bestandworst.com/vote/processrate/ratetheballot.php?24143 gives IP address 131.216.163.43 as the creator of the ballot.
Similarly, http://www.bestandworst.com/vote/processrate/ratetheballot.php?23922 gives IP address 131.216.163.44 as another.
ARIN states that these addreses belong to the University of Nevada, who have a /16 at 131.216.0.0/16.
It's even more interesting to note that the person notifying you of these polls in the first place is from the same range of IP addresses.
And this posting, with the name "Plato", above, too. [3]
Reverse DNS for 131.216.163.43 is dhcp-291.lv-llb.nevada.edu Reverse DNS for 131.216.163.44 is dhcp-292.lv-llb.nevada.edu
lv-llb = LV Lied Library? ( http://www.scs.nevada.edu/nevadanet/map.html )
which would be at 4505 S. Maryland Parkway, Las Vegas, NV 89154...
which leads us to http://www.unlv.edu/ , in all probability.
-- The Anome 00:08, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Dude, that's pretty interesting, I don't know. If I worried about every little tidbit like this, I wouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning. Strange, isn't it? My guess is that Plato is Michael, and that he probably wrote those polls and then let me know about them. Well, at least I guess we know Michael may be in Las Vegas now? But, who knows, there are a lot of wingnuts in the world, maybe it's a coincidence. Jimbo Wales 22:26, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
My Goals
Hello, Jimbo again I wish to tell you no, I am not Michael, your "little" witchhunt failed (yet again). However, I did post those two messages as an experiment (as a test as you wiki's say) to see the extent of you "ISP" tracing, and it worked. You trace right down to where a person lives (although of course i don't live in Lied Library but i do live in Las Vegas. It is quite interesting how Libertarians such as yourself worry about the governement doing this, but you condone it on your website (discussing). To be frank, Mr. Wales I will not sit and lie in my bed as rather ignorantly put it I will continue to "pester" your project until I see meaningful reforms. I am currently working a Wikipedia Constitution which will protect all meaningful contributers such as myself, and I will tell all 187 active sysops what reforms I feel are needed thank you and God bless Mr. Wales. --Plato 05:50, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- If you really want to have a positive impact, then I can only recommend that you join the policy discussions on wikipedia-l and wikien-l. Jimbo Wales 19:08, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)