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Archive

Archived

I'm afraid I can't archive just the top half. It has to be all or none. I archived the whole lot. Izehar 18:44, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I read somewhere that you are a historian. Why dont you add the:
HistThis user is a historian

to your userpage? Izehar 18:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Unhappy with username

Hi. You could try Wikipedia:Changing username, or just stop using this one and get another username. Ideally, you would make a small message and a link on User:HolyRomanEmperor and User talk:HolyRomanEmperor about the name change and that this account is inactive. -- Chris 73 | Talk 22:37, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

For legal reasons, i think the name has to stay in the edit summaries. If you really want to retire, just add a big note to the top of your user or talk page. An example:
This user has voluntarily retired, and this account is inactive. You may leave messages on the talk page, but they probably won't be answered.

-- Chris 73 | Talk 09:06, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

World citizenry

Well, the Balkans used to be populated by many Jews until the Holocaust. There were large Jewish communities in Thessaloniki, Sofia, Tirana, Belgrade, Istanbul, Dubrovnik and Bitola. Izehar 13:58, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Have you seen the article on the World Service Authority? They are this organisation claiming to have renounced their original nationality and citizenship, in order to live as so called "citizens of the World". It seems to be a joke really, but as you are a cosmopolitan, what they have to say may appeal to you. Izehar 13:58, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Exodus

The Exodus both in its gramatical as well as in historical meaning refers to the departure of Jews from Egypt. It is just not scientific to call it that way as it is ambigious and could be viewed as POV. Also Bosnians do not refer to their evacuation as exodus and 2 million of them fled their homes.--Dado 17:24, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actualy 1.8 million according to UN. Some early reports stated 2 million. That includes all Bosnians including Bosniaks. --Dado 20:20, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]


It is not a matter of compromise but accuracy. You and I can agree to use the word in both instances but it may be offensive for Jewish people in a same way the word holocoust is often misused. --Dado 22:14, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]


[1] (see first two meanings). It is up to you if you want to use it but I still think it is misleading, ambigious and emotionally charged term that will potentially lead to edit wars.--Dado 22:27, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

See my comments on the talk page regarding the term ethnic cleansing. I said I will not remove it but someone else may.--Dado 22:49, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ivan Gundulić

Mislim da ipak neću glasati u vezi Ivana Gundulića, jer je samo pitanje, da li je bio Srbin ili Hrvat i da li je govorio srpski ili hrvatski, pogrešno postavljeno. Stanovnici Dubrovnika iz tog vremena nazivali su sebe Dubrovčanima, a svoj jezik "slovinski", i sve što odstupa od ovakve definicije je suštinski pogrešno. PANONIAN (talk) 22:37, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Hi there. I answered to your post on my talk page. I am sorry for the delay, I really have a bussy period so I am not able to visit Wikipedia every day. Take care, Macedonian(talk) 02:37, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

POV

What is POV excatly? For what articles do u want me to help? Frankly dont know much about medivial age. Can u use ICQ or any other messengers now? Luka Jačov 21:07, 4 December 2005 (UTC) Ok, how to find u on IRC? Luka Jačov 21:13, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

U didnt anwser me yet what is pov Luka Jačov 21:26, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Prvi put da koristim IRC otišo sam na tools-join channel upiso wikipedia-hr i sam sam u sobi. imaš možda icq, skype ili msn lakše mi je s tim Luka Jačov 21:34, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OK, but y u didnt explain me how to find u? Luka Jačov 21:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My nick is Lugjo, yours? i am in wikipedia-sr channel now but alone Luka Jačov 21:51, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Stefan Dragutin

Nedavno smo diskutovali o Stefanu Dragutinu, međutim nisam tada imao vremena da se time bavim, ali sada imam. Ovo mi je napisao tada anonimni korisnik na strani za razgovor (Da li si to bio ti?): "Ovdje piše da je Ugrin Čak imao vazalan status prema kralju Dragutinu. Postojao je i ban u Usori. Milutin je pripojio Soli, jer tu nije postojao više Ban." Ako si ti bio taj anonimni korisnik (koji je zaboravio da se uloguje), možeš li mi navesti izvor gde si to pročitao i citirati celu rečenicu o tome, da bih to ispravio u članku o Stefanu Dragutinu? PANONIAN (talk) 13:48, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Kontroverzne teme

Hehehe... Na sta mislis? Na RS, istoriju RS i sl.? To malo teze... Nije to moj fah. Mogu o jezicima i, po moranju, o knjizevnosti i knjizevnicima. A mogu i tamo gde se nazire da je moguce naci neko resenje. Licno ne mislim da ce se u dogledno o tim tamo temama resiti to. Drugim recima, makar koliko da sam zaludan, toliko nisam ;) Sto se tice Andrica, Boskovica i ostalih, mislim da se tu daju naci resenja. Evo, sada si poceo da bivstvujes na IRC-u, pa pricaj sa ljudima. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 21:15, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pricaj sa Elephantusom na IRC-u. Sto se tice Dziva, poslao sam pitanje, pa cu ga dobiti (ne tako skoro). U svakom slucaju, moze se tvrditi da je bio Dubrovcanin (u "nacionalnom" smislu). Za neko vreme cu dobiti informacije o etnickom poreklu... --millosh (talk (sr:)) 17:13, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Podatke saznajem od jedne od tri najrelevantnije osobe u Srbiji za Dubrovacku knjizevnost. Za Andrica Elefantus tera inat ;) Cak je i Mir Harven potvrdio da se Andric izjasnio kao Srbin. Za Rudjera ti je poznato... Sto se tice ulica, treba to stavljati u "ostalo". Naravno, navesti u smislu: "Postoje ulice sa njegovim imenom u: Beogradu, Zagrebu, itd.". --millosh (talk (sr:)) 22:02, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pominjano je Ivino izjasnjavanje u Ujedinjenim nacijama, kao i njegovo tretiranje tamo; sto treba proveriti. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 10:45, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

about your request

I'm sorry but I don't think I know anything about the Republic of Dubrovnik. Take care. +MATIA 15:57, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

From Kosovar

Hello there. Well, I just wanted to let you know that I will definetely get back to you because I would like to continue our discussion. I also wanted to let you know that I wrote you a post with some personal feelings, so it was extremely frustrating when my post was lost. It was the first time this happened to me with Wikipedia, I got a message saying something along the lines of "Our servers are being updated -- your post was not saved", and then when I went back in my browser the text disappeared.

Anyhow, please bare with me and I will get in touch sooner rather than later. Kosovar 00:55, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

History of BiH

Holy, I have not claimed that DAI is false but controversial. I am not an expert in the subject but even I can see that the DAI has some serious issues. In fact the article on DIA speaks about the controversy as well. I have an issue with the map and I don't understand how you are not seeing the reasons why is this map being pushed. If there was a similar map created by a credible source and not the user (whose edits are also not the most neutral material you can see on the Wikipedia) than we may be able to talk about the issue --Dado 04:19, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Compromise"?

I don't remember ever agreeing to this compromise of yours. And the discussion on the king of Serbs was never "resolved". Nikola merely ignored the evidence. Now please stop flooding my talk page. Asim Led 21:44, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, please add a copyright tag with source to this map. Thuresson 14:35, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

3RR

When someone violates the WP:3RR, you should report him at WP:AN/3RR. Izehar (talk) 17:37, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure he violated the 3RR - I can't find a violation. Izehar (talk) 17:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You could ask to have the page protected. If you can find a reason in the Wikipedia:Protection policy why the article should be proected, then post a request on Wikipedia:Requests for page protection and they will protect it. If there is a revert war going on, then they will temporarily protect it. Izehar (talk) 18:09, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, but you may be able to get him to agree to something while the page is protected. When a page is protected, the disputants can do nothing much except talk. Remember, try to compromise. Izehar (talk) 18:30, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well why don't you fix the article? Who knows, he may see the light or he may even agree to it. In the meantime, ask for protection after you've fixed it in case he objects ;-) Izehar (talk) 18:40, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Your articles

To be honest I dont think your articles are encyclopedic according to style they were written. Your work is more like u write an essay and not encylopedic. My advice: u should start article with the name of the article like: Jovan Vladimir (DOB-DOD) was Serbian...

And also Duklja and Zeta arent articles u started although u have mentioned me that. I would also like your POV of my articles. I hope I wasnt to harsh :). Luka Jačov 20:14, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

So if they are copy-edits they arent really articles of yours;)? U really should deal with them quickly. I also see u have edited Lika. Very good, I just wouldnt call the historical era industrial cos u deal also with pre-industrial age. Which article from me do u find most interesting? Luka Jačov 22:50, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Lika itself in early mediaval was special area controlled by Ban and toponym Srb is mentioned already in IX. century which proves Serb presence in the area much before Ottoman emigrations. I will re-check this information this week and edit it.

Lastovo is also my favorite, unlike Molise Slavic dialect it is article entirely edited by me. I visited Mundimitar in 2004 and I will defently visit Lastovo this summer (2006 Luka Jačov 23:11, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ako imaš neke informacije o Lastovo zaš' ne bi dodao i da htio bih vidjet izvor. Samo me zanima dal se informacija da se Lastovo slobodo priključilo Dubrovniku kosi s činjenicom da je to odlučio Stefan Uroš ili je Stefan Uroš samo dao blagoslov odluci otočana da se priključi Dubrovniku? Luka Jačov 10:18, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I dont plan to do it very soon. I dont c what is the problem? If it is 2 long just click + instead of edit. Luka Jačov 20:58, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Stvarno ne kužim u čemu je problem, pa talk page može bit beskonačno velika. Ako je neki problem možeš napisati na moj userpage. Luka Jačov 21:12, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What your internet is to slow to open edit page? U said u have icq? u use it now? Y Uroš wanted Dubrovnik's forgivenes when he won Dubrovnik? I suppose he could even occupied it if he wanted. U also said u will give me the source. Luka Jačov 21:21, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I dont wanna be pain in da ass but u didnt anwser all my questions. Luka Jačov 21:35, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What do u mean talk page is too slow? Why dont u edit that information about Lastovo? Luka Jačov 21:50, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

When will u edit Lastovo? Luka Jačov 21:43, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]


I answered your questions on my page.--Epirus 05:24, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Welcoming

Hello, please welcome users on their talk page (i.e. User_talk:Ugen64), not their user page (User:Ugen64). Thank you, – ugen64 20:46, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]